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Off Topic => Anything Goes => Topic started by: Axeman on June 01, 2020, 10:31:24 am

Title: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Axeman on June 01, 2020, 10:31:24 am
In the good old days, the conversation on this board was fast and furious....things have gotten quiet...at times, I refrain from posting b/c I feel like a dork when I see my name up as the last person posting in so many categories...for days and days and days...I watched "Eastern Ontario" sit untouched for nearly 3 years and I finally posted a reply just to freshen it up...to those of you posting, I enjoy reading about your new sightings and adventures...thanks for posting!

Second...has anyone else noticed the uptick in unregistered users?
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 01, 2020, 01:49:44 pm
Sharp uptick in non-member viewing may be due to home-bound people with nothing to do.
Nonetheless, it remains a bit of a mystery. So, why don't you solve it? The cause(s) for people's
actions has always eluded me so I'm ill-equipped to interpret social behavior. It may require
someone with an axe to grind, an axeman if you will, to delve into this mystery and offer a
cogent explanation.

As for seeing little activity despite the up-tick, actual postings can only be provided by members
and there have not been a deluge of new members with something to say. Existing members may
just be lazy, or feel they have nothing engaging to offer, or are so well informed by board-related
issues that they only intervene when other members are engaged in poppycock and feel obliged to
steer the ship back on a credible course. Sort of like scientists having to suffer the undisciplined
ramblings of amateurs. Like a room-full of intellectuals having to listen to Trump present an opinion
on just about anything. I'm betting that laziness, intimidation, or elevated erudition are responsible
for the apparent lack of enthusiasm. Thank goodness we have Ally as a source of excitement and the
amateur ornithologists on-board to keep things real. And, or course, thanks to you for being reflective.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Ally on June 01, 2020, 01:55:46 pm
Quote from: "Shortsighted"
Sharp uptick in non-member viewing may be due to home-bound people with nothing to do.
Nonetheless, it remains a bit of a mystery. So, why don't you solve it? The cause(s) for people's
actions has always eluded me so I'm ill-equipped to interpret social behavior. It may require
someone with an axe to grind, an axeman if you will, to delve into this mystery and offer a
cogent explanation.

As for seeing little activity despite the up-tick, actual postings can only be provided by members
and there have not been a deluge of new members with something to say. Existing members may
just be lazy, or feel they have nothing engaging to offer, or are so well informed by board-related
issues that they only intervene when other members are engaged in poppycock and feel obliged to
steer the ship back on a credible course. Sort of like scientists having to suffer the undisciplined
ramblings of amateurs. Like a room-full of intellectuals having to listen to Trump present an opinion
on just about anything. I'm betting that laziness, intimidation, or elevated erudition are responsible
for the apparent lack of enthusiasm. Thank goodness we have Ally as a source of excitement and the
amateur ornithologists on-board to keep things real. And, or course, thanks to you for being reflective.

I will set out as soon as the sun or the wind sets down a bit, since I'm now shouldering such responsibilities. :D  :D
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 01, 2020, 03:24:00 pm
Right on!
You're an inspiration.
Keep on trekking.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Axeman on June 01, 2020, 10:31:38 pm
I notice I hold the last comment for all the "Birding" forums.....
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Dinusaur on June 02, 2020, 08:48:53 am
Quote from: "Axeman"
I notice I hold the last comment for all the "Birding" forums.....
Not any more Axeman.
Yes, it is unfortunate to see fewer and fewer submissions; people who started this forum have outgrown it, plus other factors kicked in. When I started my birding adventure in 2014 I started with birdforum.org for identifying my sightings. Then I found this site through Google search and been using it ever since. The experienced birders here provided all kinds of sound advice, no condescending or nasty remarks thrown at each other - a very decent site to learn all about birds. I know a few young guns who interacted regularly in this site and became respected birders in the community. This is a true discussion forum with wide variety of topics, all in one place unlike in Facebook where you see individual groups for individual topic, yet for some reason this site is not so attractive anymore to new birders who might be more content with real-time reporting on a sighting or looking for an app based site on their mobile devices, among other things. With the introduction of Discord and its rising popularity I see this site and many others will see less interaction - a natural evolution I guess. However, I'll keep coming here for advice, discussions, photos and many more - this site holds a special place in my heart.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 02, 2020, 12:04:06 pm
Ah yez, very interesting.
I now zee zhat you are absolutely correct.
Zee qwestion iz, how does zhat make you feel?
Do you feel zhat you alvays need to half zha last vord?
Are you a provocateur? Vee need more of zhat or else
Ziz forum vill bekomen moribund, yes?   
We half heard the sage opinion of Professor Dinu, mon
Capitan, and as alvays he has revealed za truth about
the preferences of new young birders.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Ally on June 02, 2020, 01:24:36 pm
I fee like a dork too, and I'm Okay with that. :D  :D
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 02, 2020, 05:52:37 pm
App-based reporting of birding-related information and the on-site reporting of observations commensurate with the investigation and appreciation of the natural world in and around the GTA has the distinct advantage of real-time immediacy. This feature may only rarely deserve the merit it has been ascribed. Perhaps only when its use intersects with critical decisions guiding the progress of the itinerant birder during desultory visits to vicinity hot spots would such expediency matter, if even then.
This kind of fervent and urgent birding strikes me as being fanatical. Investigating and recording discoveries within the local precincts of the natural world are not like war zone reporting. Your findings may be worth sharing but that mandate does not require immediate disclosure. A forum such as this one has more precious utility than real-time communication. A forum lends itself to reflective story-telling, serving to report findings, but doing so with essential context, trials and tribulations, technique and folly all wrapped into a memorable recounting of what it really means to be engaged in birding and its ancillary forays into the semi-wilds.
Our preoccupation with immediate communication, instant download, real-time reporting and all like forms of immediate gratification achieve said expediency by sacrificing contextual flavor, nuance, exposition, and the satisfaction and entertainment embraced by finally reaching a denouement either as identification, or a lucky photograph. An app-report may occasionally have utility but it has no style and fails to offer the robust weight of a good, detailed forum posting. Would Hemingway have used an app?
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 03, 2020, 07:49:41 am
Ally, if you are a dork, mate, you will have plenty of dork-mates, including yours truly.
It has been forecast that dorks shall inherit the earth.
Even now, the universe is mostly composed of dork matter.
A dork and a Quark walk into a bar, completely unseen, and
order a single martini due to quantum entanglement.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Howieh on June 03, 2020, 02:01:12 pm
Quote from: "Shortsighted"
Ally, if you are a dork, mate, you will have plenty of dork-mates, including yours truly.
It has been forecast that dorks shall inherit the earth.
Even now, the universe is mostly composed of dork matter.
A dork and a Quark walk into a bar, completely unseen, and
order a single martini due to quantum entanglement.

It looks like they've already inherited the good(?) old USA, or am I being disrespectful to dorks everywhere by saying this?

Was that the same bar that the hydrogen atom walked into looking for his lost electron and when someone asked him if he was sure he'd lost it he said, "I'm positive!"?

On a lighter note, did anyone out there catch last evenings lightning show? Despite myself, (I couldn't set bulb mode on my old dslr and didn't use a tripod even tho I had told my neighbour what was coming at least an hour before the storm hit!), as the storm receded to the southeast the lightning was so frequent and spectacular that I still got a few good shots (2 second exposures) and the SX50 video is even better.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Dinusaur on June 03, 2020, 04:37:10 pm
Quote from: "Howieh"
Quote from: "Shortsighted"
…..
Even now, the universe is mostly composed of dork matter.
A dork and a Quark walk into a bar, completely unseen, and
order a single martini due to quantum entanglement.
…….
Was that the same bar that the hydrogen atom walked into looking for his lost electron and when someone asked him if he was sure he'd lost it he said, "I'm positive!"?
…….
Love these two quotes - being a physicist I appreciate them very much, really funny.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 04, 2020, 11:06:45 am
You’re a physicist! Well, now I’m completely intimidated. I’ve always liked physics but realized early in the game of high-level edification that I could never become a practitioner of the discipline because I fail the height requirement. Essentially I’m too short, both in stature and intellect. At my height I couldn’t see over the tall math and get lost when doing field equations. I also can’t jump (except to erroneous conclusions) high enough to compensate. Not like those diminutive members of the Fukawii tribe who also cannot see over the mature savannah and must therefore jump to see over it, heads momentarily popping above the tall grass at which time they can be heard shouting … where the Fuk-a-wii!
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Howieh on June 04, 2020, 01:59:53 pm
Quote from: "Shortsighted"
You’re a physicist! Well, now I’m completely intimidated. I’ve always liked physics but realized early in the game of high-level edification that I could never become a practitioner of the discipline because I fail the height requirement. Essentially I’m too short, both in stature and intellect. At my height I couldn’t see over the tall math and get lost when doing field equations. I also can’t jump (except to erroneous conclusions) high enough to compensate. Not like those diminutive members of the Fukawii tribe who also cannot see over the mature savannah and must therefore jump to see over it, heads momentarily popping above the tall grass at which time they can be heard shouting … where the Fuk-a-wii!

Don't sell yourself Short, sighted. I still recall my university math and physics courses required for aspiring meteorologists; I'm still coming to terms with some of those equations I never fully understood and the concept of coriolis force had me going in circles (hopefully in the right direction for the northern hemisphere!).
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 04, 2020, 05:54:53 pm
I’ve always found calculus, algebra and analysis to be a challenge since I do not have a natural aptitude for grasping the abstract and did not undergo complete math immersion, which I think is essential to thinking with equations. After a university course in Astronomy I figured that I would take Astrophysics and soon regretted it when I realized that it was all math. Sure enough though, when I spent some quality time with the math it started to make sense, but I did not continue because the reward, though confidence-building, was not profound enough to warrant the investment. Although there was some math with the biological sciences it was not nearly as onerous. Once out of uni all the math skills were jettisoned, virtually littering my meager wake.
Years later, I needed to go back to physics in order to design and build a bass loudspeaker. All speaker designing requires some math but that is mostly managed with software, such as LEAP. My problem was that the single, very expensive 15” bass driver I had was not efficient enough to complement the main speakers, which turned out to deliver more bass than my plan anticipated. So much so, in fact, that an additional bass unit was not really needed. Nonetheless, abandoning a $600. driver (woofer) did not sit well with me. My only option beyond purchasing a second driver (not going to happen) was to increase the efficiency of the existing unit. That plan required “horn-loading” the woofer to boost its efficiency (more dB / watt). The project made it necessary for me to go back to the university library to investigate acoustical physics journals for horn designs. I found a decent article featuring dreaded MATH and therefore I needed to study the math and recoup some semblance of understanding, at least enough to apply the equations in order to determine the requisite parameters: horn throat area, pre-throat volume, horn taper rate, and horn mouth area. More conventional math was then needed to work out a configuration within a cabinet to fold the horn on itself. For long wavelengths that demanded three separate constructions: one housing the woofer and the horn’s throat, a connecting piece representing the early flare of the horn and a final cabinet to include the mouth, which could never be large enough and therefore needed the floor and a corner of the stage to complete the terminus of the acoustic tunnel. It was a hard build but fun. Some of the best stuff in life requires math. I just never thought I would be doing math for fun. Oh, did I mention that I was from another planet.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 06, 2020, 10:01:51 am
Found a picture of LARGE MOUTH BASS as an example of using
long-forgotten math recouped to apply to a horn-loaded bass
loudspeaker.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-N89JgMW/0/995d62f4/M/i-N89JgMW-M.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-358cgw/i-N89JgMW/A)
 LMB on the left (3-parts connected) and one of the main speakers (TWIN PEAKS).
Passive cross-over between "Heads" (Horn-loaded tweeter and twin midrange)
and electrnic cross-over between heads and "Bass Bin", therefore separate amplifier
for the heads and the bins. The Large Mouth Bass also needs a separate amp.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Axeman on June 09, 2020, 10:10:57 am
I like beer.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 09, 2020, 04:24:11 pm
Who doesn't like beer?
Ale or lager?
Light or Dork?
Imported or Domestic?
Microbrewery or corporate giant?
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 10, 2020, 12:41:44 pm
warm English style.
Cold German style.
Insipid American style.

Can.
Bottle.
Glass.
Stein.
Your average bucket.

With food.
Without food.
as chaser.
For medicinal purposes only.

The results of this survey will not be shared with, sold to any corporate agent or published in any way and therefore remains
confidential outside of this forum.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Axeman on June 10, 2020, 02:03:52 pm
I just like beer...the way it was meant to be enjoyed...in large quantities....all else is folly.
Title: Re: Board Activity / Threads / Posting / Conversations
Post by: Shortsighted on June 10, 2020, 04:28:42 pm
In large quantities everything becomes folly including the actual enjoyment of the beer.
I think wine is feeling neglected in this thread.