September 24, 1999 to July 31, 2000

August Update - the 303 Page - Black Powder & Lithgow Lumber

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on July 31, 2000 at 15:13:22:

'Tis summer (at least in this hemisphere). Time to tap the trigger, and after, kill a keg. Or something like that...

Two interesting contributions from visitors to the 303 Page.

First, Black Powder in a 303? Well, they did it that way first, and while recipes are hard to find, Wayne sent a recipe (and a winning one to boot!) Congratulations Wayne!

Well, what about wood? Could I be talking about the classic Scandinavian Teak Chair to butt stock conversion? The famous Canadian sporter stock made using maple scraped from the heads of Libersal politicians? No, although the idea has merit.

How about Shiver Me Timbers. Lithgow Lumber for the SMLE. What the Aussies used to keep rifles from sinking in rough seas.

It's August and I'm suffering from the heat! I won't be undersold! No REASONABLE offer accepted!

Load data, headspacing & gauging info, reloading tips and the No 4 Maintenance Manual (voted the most read book in my bathroom!) all at www.303british.com

It's a wonder you're not there already, 'cause I'm not "there" at all!

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell http://www.303british.com

...and now the rest of the story...

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Posted by Kevin on July 31, 2000 at 14:23:51:

In Reply to: great pic posted by Stephen on July 31, 2000 at 12:59:06:

Thanks Stephen;
That picture was taken near Silverwater Manitoulin Island.
My dog and I walked the perimeter of the small pond and it wasn`t until we went nearly full circle that this mallard jumped a good distance away from us.
I got on the call and continued to call as I watched the duck enter the stratosphere and disappear from my sight.
Less than a minute later the duck reappears and I call it down in front of us where I dust it`s ass and my lab makes a grade "A" retrieve.
Just another one of those days where you don`t think you`re going to see anything.
Having the pictures allows me to relive these hunts time and time again.
My black lab is gone now and I really miss him, he was an excellent duck dog.
I`m in the process of training another pup right now and I`m looking forward to dropping that first duck in front of him this September.
Is this your first hunting dog?

great pic

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Posted by Stephen on July 31, 2000 at 12:59:06:

In Reply to: O/U shotguns posted by Kevin on July 31, 2000 at 10:55:25:

Great photo, I am waiting on my black lab pup just born yesterday.

Re: Duck/Goose Gun

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Posted by Braden on July 31, 2000 at 11:47:37:

In Reply to: Re: Duck/Goose Gun posted by Fischer on July 31, 2000 at 08:47:31:

point taken, as a side, I have put quite a lot of steel through that gun with mod/full chokes and had no problems, and it certainly fits me far better than my 870.

Braden

O/U shotguns

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Posted by Kevin on July 31, 2000 at 10:55:25:

In Reply to: Re: Duck/Goose Gun posted by Fischer on July 31, 2000 at 08:47:31:

I have fired steel shot out of my O/U and have not experienced any ill effects.
The barrel steel is pretty heavy, I really enjoy shooting this shotgun in flooded timber.

Re: Rattle or Grunt

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Posted by RRC on July 31, 2000 at 09:05:16:

In Reply to: Rattle or Grunt posted by Kern on July 30, 2000 at 21:39:47:

I called in a nice buck last year with my Quad grunter set on the doe setting. The deer came in from 400 yards. I shot him when he reached about 100 yards from where I was standing.

Re: Duck/Goose Gun

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Posted by RRC on July 31, 2000 at 09:03:50:

In Reply to: Duck/Goose Gun posted by John on July 29, 2000 at 12:12:00:

The only problem may be muzzel blast from a short barrel. Your hunting partners may complain.

Re: Duck/Goose Gun

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Posted by Fischer on July 31, 2000 at 08:47:31:

In Reply to: Re: Duck/Goose Gun posted by Braden on July 29, 2000 at 22:32:54:

Braden, you're not taking into account the (lack of) receiver on your O/U. Add 6 inches of bolt for a S/A or pump and you've got quite a long gun.

I'm a O/U and S/S fan myself, particularly for rabbits and upland game. However, I went out and bought a 1300 pump w/28" bbl. because I won't shoot steel out of my doubles, and I refuse to pay exhorbitant prices for bismuth and composites.

What do you shoot in that old O/U?

Re: Rattle or Grunt

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Posted by bowhunter on July 31, 2000 at 08:11:18:

In Reply to: Rattle or Grunt posted by Kern on July 30, 2000 at 21:39:47:

Grunting works great for me. I've killed at least 3 deer with my xbow that I can definitly say were grunted in. One of my hunting parteners almost got mugged by a 6 pointer last year during the rifle hunt after blowing his grunt tube. No experience with rattling, so I can't give any advice in the department. As for types of grunt tubes, get one that can make a variety of calls (i.e. doe & fawn bleats, mature and immature bucks). Be careful with the mature buck call. I've seen it send smaller back running with thier tail between thier legs.

HUINTING DOGS

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Posted by bob on July 31, 2000 at 06:30:32:

The antis are after our dogs now! And not just hounds, check it out! http://www.ofah.org/ofah.htm

We are on our way!!

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Posted by Braden on July 30, 2000 at 22:42:20:

In Reply to: They just keep coming! posted by Kevin on July 30, 2000 at 21:11:58:

On the 17th of august in area 41, plan on thinning them out down Pozniaks camp road. Open up on em on the 15th my friend!

Re: Antlerless Deer Validation Tag Draw

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Posted by Kevin on July 30, 2000 at 21:48:53:

In Reply to: Re: Antlerless Deer Validation Tag Draw posted by Kern on July 30, 2000 at 21:31:01:

Nice farm country, I use to shoot groundhogs just outside Hastings.

Rattle or Grunt

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Posted by Kern on July 30, 2000 at 21:39:47:

Any one have a preference?? How easy is it to work the grunt calls?? Any fav brands??

Re: Antlerless Deer Validation Tag Draw

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Posted by Kern on July 30, 2000 at 21:31:01:

In Reply to: Re: Antlerless Deer Validation Tag Draw posted by Kevin on July 30, 2000 at 20:30:28:

Ill be hunting in 73. Cant wait to get the new exomag in the bush.

They just keep coming!

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Posted by Kevin on July 30, 2000 at 21:11:58:

Took the wife and lab out to a park on Lake Superior tonight, there were about twentyfive people on the beach so we went down to the far end to work the dog.
The guy that manages the beach comes down and tells us not to get too far down the beach because he says there`s a huge black bear hanging around the park.He said it came out of the bush the other day, walked up to his car, jumped up and put it`s paws on the windshield.There goes my wife ...!
Another bear has taken up residence in a populated area on the east side of town.The police seem reluctant to shoot them this year because of all the criticism they faced from killing every bear they responded to last summer.

Re: Antlerless Deer Validation Tag Draw

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Posted by Kevin on July 30, 2000 at 20:30:28:

In Reply to: Antlerless Deer Validation Tag Draw posted by Kern on July 30, 2000 at 17:24:47:

Kern; Where are you hunting?
I`m hunting 43A, chances are usually pretty good.

Goose Calls

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Posted by michigander88 on July 30, 2000 at 20:18:06:

If anyone is looking for a short reed goose call made of acrylic w/ a beautiful laser engraved set of geese, give me a holler. michigander88

Antlerless Deer Validation Tag Draw

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Posted by Kern on July 30, 2000 at 17:24:47:

Only 24 hrs left to get in the draw. July 31 5:00 pm is the cutoff. Good luck

Need help...

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Posted by Don on July 30, 2000 at 15:35:51:

Anyone know of any public land where I can practice shooting my shotgun around Toronto before the seasons start? (Besides a gun club)

Re: Duck/Goose Gun

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Posted by Braden on July 29, 2000 at 22:32:54:

In Reply to: Re: Duck/Goose Gun posted by chessy on July 29, 2000 at 20:19:14:

Try to take them after they have passed over your head and you can shoot after turning around, either that or coming straight into the decoys. You may find that a 22 inch barrel gives up a lot when your swinging on a bird, that is why most waterfowlers use a longer barreled gun, as far as velocitys and such, it won't make a difference, and who knows if your used to the short barrel you may do just fine. my favorite bird gun is an old winchester o/u with a 30 inch barrel. It swings very smoothly.

Re: Duck/Goose Gun

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Posted by Kevin on July 29, 2000 at 22:12:46:

In Reply to: Duck/Goose Gun posted by John on July 29, 2000 at 12:12:00:

I use a 28" modified vent rib barrel with Rem choke on my 870 and shoot #2 steel for duck hunting over decoys on open water and field hunting.I like the 28" barrel on the 870.

Re: Duck/Goose Gun

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Posted by chessy on July 29, 2000 at 20:19:14:

In Reply to: Duck/Goose Gun posted by John on July 29, 2000 at 12:12:00:

Modern smokeless powders burn in the first 13 to 16 inches of the barrel and maximum velocities are obtained in the first 20 inches. Shot will carry the same distance regardless of the barrel length. Shot pattern will be the same whether the barrel is 21 inches in length or 30 inches in length, if the barrel has the same choke constriction.

Our experts state there would be a small variation in velocity when using a 21-inch barrel as compared with a 30-inch barrel; however, the variation would be immeasurable.

The basic advantage of a shorter barrel is that it will swing faster. The longer barrel gives the hunter a longer sight radius to be more precise, particularly when pass shooting waterfowl. Also, the longer barrel can often help balance certain shotguns better.

Duck/Goose Gun

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Posted by John on July 29, 2000 at 12:12:00:

I have a question for all of the knowledgeable hunters on the board. I just purchased a winchester 1300 shotgun (deer and turkey)with a 22 inch barrel. However, I would like to try duck/goose hunting this year.

Can I get away with a 22 inch gun? What kind of choke/shot size would be best with this gun?

Re: Did you see the TO councillor on the news?

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Posted by DUMB A$$ RED NECK DEER HUNTER on July 29, 2000 at 07:41:29:

In Reply to: Did you see the TO councillor on the news? posted by Steve on July 28, 2000 at 21:12:33:

I saw it & did you notice that the air guns looked like they could still be used even after he (Rob Davis) rolled over them a few times.........boy & I thought I did some dumb a$$ things..........anyways, i've got a few stolen guns plus a couple used in homicides so I think i'll dump them on him & get $50 apiece!!!!!!!!!!! JUST KIDDING.........just trying to show how damn stupid his (Rob Davis) idea is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure all the gangs & criminals will run right to him with their guns!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA......Rob Davis...wake up & smell the coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Not likely

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Posted by Sid on July 28, 2000 at 23:50:22:

In Reply to: Re: Not likely posted by Fischer on July 28, 2000 at 14:50:11:

Thanks Fischer. Feel much better now. Unfortunately, I only get to go out for deer for a couple of days. This year especially, my wife is due to give birth to our first, I hope I'll even get to go for the opener. Thanks.

LAKE F268

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Posted by TREX on July 28, 2000 at 21:42:54:

HEY,,ANYONE HEARD OF LAKE F268 EAST OF OGOKI LAKE . HEADED UP THERE ON A MOOSE HUNT IN LATE SEPT,,WONDERING WHAT I'M GETTIN INTO,LOL

Did you see the TO councillor on the news?

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Posted by Steve on July 28, 2000 at 21:12:33:

In Reply to: Re: I THINK GUN AMNISTY IS GREAT HEARS Y posted by Shotgunner on July 28, 2000 at 18:50:39:

The local news covered this guy symbolically destroying guns by driving over them with a steamroller. If you looked closely, you could see they were air rifles!!

What a Bozo.

Re: I THINK GUN AMNISTY IS GREAT HEARS Y

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Posted by Shotgunner on July 28, 2000 at 18:50:39:

In Reply to: I THINK GUN AMNISTY IS GREAT HEARS Y posted by CHESSY on July 28, 2000 at 17:54:32:

I should start taking broken guns off people's hands... uuuumm, anyone want to give me a broken gun??? LOL

I THINK GUN AMNISTY IS GREAT HEARS Y

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Posted by CHESSY on July 28, 2000 at 17:54:32:

I AM SITTING ON 5 22 CALIBER RIFLES THAT ARE BROKE AND CANOT FIND PARTS FOR THEY ARE IN ALL WORDS JUNK AND IF TORONTO IS GOING TO GIVE ME 50 BUCKS A POP THAT IS 250 BUCKS TOWARDS A NEW GUN LOL AND I AM GOING TO DO IT AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL GET OUR JUNK WEPONS UP THIS WAY IT SAVES US CUTTING THEM UP AND PAYING DUMP FEES TO GET RID OF THEM JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH

Re: Hunting Show

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Posted by Nimrod on July 28, 2000 at 14:55:41:

In Reply to: Re: Hunting Show posted by Jack on July 28, 2000 at 07:35:29:

I believe it's Sept. 8-10 at the International Centre. It's been an annual event for about 20 years. Contact the Ontario Out of Doors magazine for details, either directly or through OFAH. If you pick up a copy of the issue that just came out yesterday it will have details.

Re: Hunting Show

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Posted by Nimrod on July 28, 2000 at 14:55:21:

In Reply to: Re: Hunting Show posted by Jack on July 28, 2000 at 07:35:29:

I believe it's Sept. 8-10 at the International Centre. It's been an annual event for about 20 years. Contact the Ontario Out of Doors magazine for details, either directly or through OFAH. If you pick up a copy of the issue that just came out yesterday it will have details.

Re: Not likely

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Posted by Fischer on July 28, 2000 at 14:50:11:

In Reply to: Re: goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont posted by Sid on July 28, 2000 at 13:41:55:

The problem in Walkerton is from a particular strain of e-coli. We all have e-coli in our guts, as do deer, cattle and any number of animals. As I said, the problem there is this one type. This type is particularly dangerous to people. Other types of e-coli can make us sick, but this one can kill you. They believe it's present in about 10% of cattle, and is really no problem as far as eating the meat, as long as the cow was slaughtered in clean, sterile conditions (ie. none of the gut contents are allowed to contact the meat)

Clean your deer properly, and you should have no problem.

Re: goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont

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Posted by michigander88 on July 28, 2000 at 14:16:29:

In Reply to: Re: goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont posted by DUMB A$$ RED NECK HUNTER on July 28, 2000 at 05:20:05:

more than likely what i'll be drinking will contain hops and barley, but thanx for the concern

Re: goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont

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Posted by Sid on July 28, 2000 at 13:41:55:

In Reply to: Re: goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont posted by DUMB A$$ RED NECK HUNTER on July 28, 2000 at 05:20:05:

I hunt deer very close to Walkerton. Do you think the deer are effected at all by the water they drink ???????

Re: gun amnesty in toronto !!!

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Posted by bob on July 28, 2000 at 12:32:24:

In Reply to: Re: gun amnesty in toronto !!! posted by Tackleberry on July 27, 2000 at 19:59:58:

I thought it was cute, steam rolling a buch of "deadly" pellet guns for the press. Shows how much he knows about firearms! When he was done it looked like most of the pellet guns would still work! Dumb ass propaganda stunt to try and make a name for himself on the backs of honest citizens.

Re: Hunting Show

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Posted by Jack on July 28, 2000 at 07:35:29:

In Reply to: Re: Hunting Show posted by Keith on July 26, 2000 at 05:39:19:

Can you supply me with additional information as to times, dates and a contact person. May be interested in putting on a display.

Re: goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont

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Posted by DUMB A$$ RED NECK HUNTER on July 28, 2000 at 05:20:05:

In Reply to: goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont posted by michigander88 on July 27, 2000 at 16:39:03:

Be sure & bring your own supply of drinking water..........don't trust Walkertons water............

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by mkm, on July 27, 2000 at 22:02:41:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by charles i on July 18, 2000 at 20:54:59:

mmnbnbb

Re: gun amnesty in toronto !!!

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Posted by Tackleberry on July 27, 2000 at 19:59:58:

In Reply to: Re: gun amnesty in toronto !!! posted by Fischer on July 27, 2000 at 11:52:53:

Didn't anybody tell these monkeys that the challenge by the province of C-68 was lost on the basis of jurisdiction of firearms. Thus I don't think the City of Toronto Councilor probably will not have the authority to institute an amnesty.

On that other side of things that I do know, everytime new legislation is passed an amnesty is provided for the disposal of "unwanted" firearms. The average response from people who don't know the law is the fear of the law and "out of my hands ASAP" not considering the potential of generating $$$$$.

Last year there was a six (6) month Federal Amnesty in place due to the coming into force of C-68. How many news agencies reported that last year or today?????

I think you hit it on the head with the re-election twist. The Provincial NDP enacted legislation to provide photo ID to purchase ammunition, because that's the only think "they" could do. The Feds. were getting all the attention from the upcoming C-68 and the Provincial boys "needed" to show they were doing something as well.

Why is it that when ever politicians step into this quagmare of ours they always seem to be chasing their tails.

Stay Safe, Shoot Straight Tack

goose seasonsnear walkerton,ont

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Posted by michigander88 on July 27, 2000 at 16:39:03:

I'll be hunting in walkerton in mid-noevember and was wondering what the goose population looks like and what the seasons will be

Re: gun amnesty in toronto !!!

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Posted by Fischer on July 27, 2000 at 11:52:53:

In Reply to: Re: gun amnesty in toronto !!! posted by Stephen on July 27, 2000 at 09:23:59:

They're budgeting $50,000 with hopes of getting 10,000 guns off the street. Fat chance. Any crook with an illegal weapon isn't going to part with it for 50 bucks. They also aren't going to worry about a PL or PAL (wouldn't our wonderful registration system weed them out anyway?)

It's just another publicity stunt by politicians who are only interested in BS'ing the significant segment of the population who can't think for themselves! Doesn't hurt that the amnesty program proposal comes to fruition just before the Municipal Elections either. Wanna bet that the biggest proponents of the amnesty will be the one's standing for re-election?

Re: Spring Bear Hunt

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Posted by Stephen on July 27, 2000 at 09:29:05:

In Reply to: Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen posted by Fischer on July 26, 2000 at 08:49:06:

A friend of mine camped last week at Balsam Lake, talking to the park wardens they mentioned how they have been having problems with bears this year. I've camped there for years and never heard or seen a bear.

At least the warden is telling the campers this has a lot to do with the cancellation of the spring bear hunt.

We might get the hunt back, once a couple folks from the big smoke run in with a few bears only 90 minutes away from home.

Re: gun amnesty in toronto !!!

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Posted by Stephen on July 27, 2000 at 09:23:59:

In Reply to: gun amnesty in toronto !!! posted by rob s on July 26, 2000 at 21:35:56:

How many folks with sawed off shotguns are going to worry about a fee increase from 10 to 60???

If and when it does happen, I'll post my ad to take any gun off their hands for 20 bucks a piece. I wonder If I'll get more guns than the amnesty program?

Re: Not the same article

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Posted by rob s on July 26, 2000 at 21:50:50:

In Reply to: Re: Not the same article posted by Fischer on July 26, 2000 at 13:11:19:

check out the haliiburton echo lots of problems there to , hey Ill drive the truck to queens park ( great idea !!)

gun amnesty in toronto !!!

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Posted by rob s on July 26, 2000 at 21:35:56:

on cfto at six tonight a toronto councilor was saying he is going to propose to council to set up a gun amnesty program in the mega city! (lol) due to the recent shootings in the city, what a f897747ing jerk! problem is city jerks like good old bad boy will probably agree! he suggests to have it one week before the federal boys increase the fees from $ 10.00 to $ 60.00.Ken Shaw ( I did have respect for this guy once)made a comment " this may have prevented the shooting on a TTC bus last week ! another total ASS.

HEY WE BETTER LOOK OUT THE END IS NEAR! sorry for the rant.

HEY WEST - WOODS AND WATER

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Posted by hitman on July 26, 2000 at 16:33:24:

In Reply to: Re: The TRUTH about Woods and Water!! posted by hitman on July 21, 2000 at 13:11:21:

West:

Are you able to comment on these charges that were apparently laid??

Hitman

Re: Keeping warm in the stand

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Posted by hitman on July 26, 2000 at 16:29:37:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping warm in the stand posted by chessy on July 24, 2000 at 21:52:01:

On those real crappy days when you are trying to keep warm in your tree stand, you should be in your duck blind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hitman

www.chesapeakewaterfowlers.com

Re: Hunting Show

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Posted by hitman on July 26, 2000 at 16:25:40:

In Reply to: Re: Hunting Show posted by HARVIE on July 26, 2000 at 11:38:13:

I'll either be there are up north of North Bay killing ducks somewhere.

Hitman

Re: Not the same article

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Posted by Fischer on July 26, 2000 at 13:11:19:

In Reply to: Re: Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen posted by bob on July 26, 2000 at 12:29:25:

The one you posted was good, but the one I'm referring to was printed yesterday (July 25). I haven't been able to search it through the archives. Maybe one of you will have better luck finding it. Thanks

It was entitled:

BEARS, BEARS, EVERYWHERE July 25, 2000 The Ottawa Citizen City D4 Column Nancy Sont Point of View City Editorial Page

Re: Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen

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Posted by TDC on July 26, 2000 at 12:48:50:

In Reply to: Re: Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen posted by bob on July 26, 2000 at 12:29:25:

That article says it all.....someone should send it to Premier Mike and see what he says

also found here

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Posted by bob on July 26, 2000 at 12:31:06:

In Reply to: Re: Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen posted by bob on July 26, 2000 at 12:29:25:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/letters/000717/4458534.html

Re: Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen

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Posted by bob on July 26, 2000 at 12:29:25:

In Reply to: Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen posted by Fischer on July 26, 2000 at 08:49:06:

This what yer after? Monday 17 July 2000

Ignorance breeds sentimental view of bears

Al Dorans The Ottawa Citizen

The emotional sensationalism of the Citizen headline, "Bullets fly as Hull police gun down black bear" (July 13) suggests that police engaged in a wild shooting spree, instead of protecting the public as they did. The term "gun down" implies the cold-blooded killing of a defenseless creature. Such media bias must be curbed.

Bears are not cute, cuddly little teddy bears. They are dangerous carnivores at the top of the food chain. The family of Olympic biathlon shooter Mary Beth Cooper, who was mauled to death by a bear, knows this all too well.

Cambrian College of Applied Arts and Technology reported that in 1998, Sudbury had 15 nuisance bear calls. That number soared to 311 in 1999. For Sault Ste. Marie, the increase was from 28 to 67 in one year. In Bracebridge, nuisance bear calls rose from eight to 128. In Parry Sound, the increase went from 18 to 99. In North Bay, 14 nuisance-bear calls were reported in 1998, while 91 were recorded in 1999.

To overcome the lack of tolerance urbanites seem to have for this particularly rural problem, folks in Sudbury generated an idea that might win the empathy of city dwellers. They suggested that 22 hungry bears be captured in Sudbury, loaded on trucks and released in Queen's Park so that Torontonians might appreciate the Sudbury bear problem first hand.

Neighbour Heather Richardson described the police actions as a "wild shootout," and said they just "blew it away" and police should not have been "cowboys" about it.

Her suggestion was that the bear should have been relocated. Perhaps the ideal spot would have been Heather's backyard.

Al Dorans, operations

director, Canadian Institute

for Legislative Action, Nepean

Re: Hunting Show

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Posted by HARVIE on July 26, 2000 at 11:38:13:

In Reply to: Re: Hunting Show posted by Dave on July 25, 2000 at 21:39:37:

Sept. 8, 9, 10 at the International Centre on Airport Rd. just west of Hwy 427.

Re: Keeping warm in the stand

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Posted by bowhunter on July 26, 2000 at 09:35:38:

In Reply to: Keeping warm in the stand posted by Kern on July 24, 2000 at 21:25:29:

I bought a fairly cheap set insulated coveralls from Cabellas. They are made by Walls Clothing. These in combination with good layering are a good conbination. Even if its very cold but little wind, I am seldom cold. If it's very windy, raining or snowing hard I tend to stay out of my stan on those days anyway. These are not usually the most productive days for sitting in a stand. I believe the deer tend hold up on these days too.

Spring Bear Hunt article, Ottawa Citizen

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Posted by Fischer on July 26, 2000 at 08:49:06:

There was an article in yesterday's (July 25) edition of the Ottawa Citizen, written by a Nancy Sont. May have been a letter to the editor or Point of View column.

Anyway, it was very supportive of the return of the Spring Bear Hunt. I got snippets of the column on a newsgroup I subscribe to, but would like to see the whole article. Anyone have it??

Re: Wolf Custom Camouflage

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Posted by Kevin on July 26, 2000 at 07:51:26:

In Reply to: Wolf Custom Camouflage posted by Kevin on July 25, 2000 at 10:28:44:

Geocities was experiencing some problems yesterday but it seems to be loading ok now.

Re: Hunting Show

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Posted by Keith on July 26, 2000 at 05:39:19:

In Reply to: Re: Hunting Show posted by Dave on July 25, 2000 at 21:39:37:

July 30 Woodstock Fair Grounds Oxford Auditorium 875 Nell St. (1 block north of Dundas)

Re: Hunting Show

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Posted by Dave on July 25, 2000 at 21:39:37:

In Reply to: Hunting Show posted by HARVIE on July 25, 2000 at 21:15:33:

When and where is it? Is there a website for it at all?

Off topic, but does anyone know if there are any gun shows coming up soon?

Hunting Show

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Posted by HARVIE on July 25, 2000 at 21:15:33:

Anyone going to the fall hunting show in Mississauga?

Re: HUNTING CAMPS

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Posted by Ellis Markham on July 25, 2000 at 14:44:36:

In Reply to: Re: HUNTING CAMPS posted by DEER SLAYER on October 18, 1999 at 09:44:50:

My wife and I are planning a hunting and fishing trip in 2001. Facilities are important. Please provide information on your camps and hunts.

Double Posts

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Posted by Kevin on July 25, 2000 at 12:14:05:

Looks like there`s a problem with the message board.

Wolf Custom Camouflage

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Posted by Kevin on July 25, 2000 at 10:28:44:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping warm in the stand posted by Kern on July 25, 2000 at 08:17:35:

Wolf Camo

Re: Keeping warm in the stand

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Posted by Tod Vandrish on July 25, 2000 at 08:31:49:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping warm in the stand posted by Kern on July 25, 2000 at 08:17:35:

Just remember to practice with your bow with all those extra clothes on. Hate to have the big fellow right under you in range and when you take the shot you realize your bowstring rubs on your big jacket, or fanny pack when you shoot. Practice like you hunt. Good luck.

TV

Re: Keeping warm in the stand

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Posted by Kern on July 25, 2000 at 08:17:35:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping warm in the stand posted by Kevin on July 24, 2000 at 22:36:19:

Hey Kevin, you posted a link some time ago for Wolf Camo. Can you post it again. Thanks

Re: Keeping warm in the stand

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Posted by Kevin on July 24, 2000 at 22:36:19:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping warm in the stand posted by chessy on July 24, 2000 at 21:52:01:

I sit in heavy clothes but peel a few layers when it gets time to walk and hunt around 10:30am.I use toe warmers on the outside of my boots, wear a fleece hand warmer with heat pack around my waste and a good wool hat.I hunt the third week in November when it`s making ice and I can stay quiet and comfortable. Wolf Camo

Re: Keeping warm in the stand

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Posted by chessy on July 24, 2000 at 21:52:01:

In Reply to: Keeping warm in the stand posted by Kern on July 24, 2000 at 21:25:29:

yes layering is good but even a outter shell of something water proff is better but how long are you really going to stay when it is that cold ???? when it is that cold we do alot of still hunting but the best thing in the stand is what is called isometricts(sp) you learn to flex your muscles this will keep you very warm and there is no movment involved with it hope this helps ps the best thing is a good pair of boots

Keeping warm in the stand

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Posted by Kern on July 24, 2000 at 21:25:29:

I plan to be doing some deer hunting this year with my new Exomag bow and was thinkin about getting some warm camo for the long stints in the stand. Ive been to a few places and it looks like everything is either Gortex or Hydro-tech. The Gortex stuff was more than twice the price and Im just wondering if its really worth it? Do any of you guys find your self in a stand in December?? Can you get away with just good layering??

Re: buffaloe heads

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Posted by Kern on July 24, 2000 at 13:32:42:

In Reply to: buffaloe heads posted by Todd elliott on July 22, 2000 at 16:19:36:

I dont know where you can post those for possible sale, but a taxidermist may beable to give you an appraisal for insurance. Why dont you take a pic and post here for starters.

Kern

Re: Bear hunting

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Posted by Kevin on July 23, 2000 at 08:07:51:

In Reply to: Re: Bear hunting posted by Braden on July 23, 2000 at 00:52:35:

I haven`t bear hunted in several years, I can take them on my trapping licence but don`t bother.I do a lot of predator calling but I hold off until late in the season because of bears.If I were to target a bear I would go to an area that had bear and call for them.I don`t have far to go there are bear everywhere!

Re: Bear hunting

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Posted by Braden on July 23, 2000 at 00:52:35:

In Reply to: Re: Bear hunting posted by Kevin on July 20, 2000 at 17:49:02:

We will likely bring a pile of old donuts, syrup and honey for one bait site, but we have a line on an area that has had a lot of recent bear sightings in recently harvested areas. We are more interested in sitting on our buts watching cuts and shorelines as well as staking out berry patches than we are in sitting over a bait can. We are up for seven days, with 3 hunters so someone will be delegated to freshen the bait site and watch for bears daily while the other 2 hike around and try to walk one up. Whats your prefered method?

Braden

buffaloe heads

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Posted by Todd elliott on July 22, 2000 at 16:19:36:

I have just inherited 2 beautiful mounted buffalo heads, can anyone tell me how to go about selling them, or having them appraised for insurance purpases.

Re: The TRUTH about Woods and Water!!

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Posted by hitman on July 21, 2000 at 13:11:21:

In Reply to: Re: The TRUTH about Woods and Water!! posted by sparky on July 20, 2000 at 01:09:14:

I inquired with someone who knew about the situation. Apparently in the spring turkey season of 99, the owner and a client were charged for shooting a turkey from a roadway, and also for illegally tagging the bird. Whoever shot the bird did not tag it, apparently another person did, which is illegal in turkey hunting because party hunting is not allowed. From what I was told, the bird was in the yard of someone's house and was shot from the roadway. The bird may have been shot originally and therefore wounded, but I again, I don't know for sure.

Hitman

Re: they sure do lol n/m

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Posted by DUMB A$$ RED NECK HUNTER on July 21, 2000 at 05:48:29:

In Reply to: they sure do lol n/m posted by chessy on July 20, 2000 at 09:33:30:

As my role model "Al Bundy" would say, do they have biggins????? HA HA HA

What is The TRUTH about Woods and Water!!

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Posted by Stephen on July 20, 2000 at 21:17:30:

In Reply to: The TRUTH about Woods and Water!! posted by WEST on July 19, 2000 at 22:21:07:

I don't think that there have been any accusations made up until this point. Just some cautions to look into the matter. That is fine. I have also considered joining , but I still have the same reservation as the original post, that no one has come close to answering. "What the land they offer is like and if it would be worth the 500$ they are charging"

If you know them so well please respond to the original posting. Depending on the outcome, they may get a few new members.

Thanks

Re: Bear hunting

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Posted by Kevin on July 20, 2000 at 17:49:02:

In Reply to: Re: Moose hunting posted by Braden on July 20, 2000 at 14:44:43:

Braden; Are you baiting? What tactics are you using?

Re: Woods and Water - West

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Posted by HARVIE on July 20, 2000 at 15:46:41:

In Reply to: Re: Woods and Water - West posted by Hitman on July 19, 2000 at 23:55:58:

Thanks for the input. I will look into it a little more closely

Re: Moose hunting

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Posted by Braden on July 20, 2000 at 14:44:43:

In Reply to: Re: Moose hunting posted by Charles i on July 18, 2000 at 21:49:04:

I bekieve the topos are 31L/11 and 31L/12 Yes this area is heavily hunted but it has a reasonable amount of moose. You will DEFINATELY see other hunters. I am heading in the general area for a bear hunt (self guided) on the 17 august. Good luck!

they sure do lol n/m

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Posted by chessy on July 20, 2000 at 09:33:30:

In Reply to: ???????? posted by DUMB A$$ RED NECK HUNTER on July 20, 2000 at 06:09:29:

nm

????????

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Posted by DUMB A$$ RED NECK HUNTER on July 20, 2000 at 06:09:29:

In Reply to: hey dumb ass redneck do you ever ... posted by chessy on July 19, 2000 at 19:59:07:

Can't say as i have...........do they have nekked women there to tease & please us rednecks??? If so, we might have to give it a try!!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA

Re: The TRUTH about Woods and Water!!

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Posted by sparky on July 20, 2000 at 01:09:14:

In Reply to: The TRUTH about Woods and Water!! posted by WEST on July 19, 2000 at 22:21:07:

West...... well if what you say is the truth, then I for one send my appologies and will not say anything more on the matter.

Sparky

Re: Woods and Water - West

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Posted by Hitman on July 19, 2000 at 23:59:47:

In Reply to: Woods and Water posted by HARVIE on July 17, 2000 at 19:57:01:

Hey West:

Do you know about any charges that W and W has faced? (Not dealing with the enclosure, and I believe it was in 98).

Hitman

Re: Woods and Water - West

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Posted by Hitman on July 19, 2000 at 23:55:58:

In Reply to: Woods and Water posted by HARVIE on July 17, 2000 at 19:57:01:

I personally have no problem with the enclosure type of hunting for exotics. No different then hunting on a pheasant farm. Any comments I made deal with him being charged by the MNR and convicted in court I believe, and how he has conducted some of his hunts and how he has dealt with landowners that have not given him permission to hunt on their property.

As I said, I have not dealt with him personally, but know and have spoke to quite a few people that have.

Hitman

The TRUTH about Woods and Water!!

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Posted by WEST on July 19, 2000 at 22:21:07:

In Reply to: Re: Woods and Water posted by Sparky on July 19, 2000 at 20:42:12:

Gentlemen,

Lots of speculative rumours floating around this particular thread. I have hunted with and known Rob the owner of Woods and Water for 4 years. Firstly, the game farm he operates is fully licensed and legal in every way. The terrain where the hunting ranch is located is tough terrain. I have hunted his parcel for Grouse and the size of the enclosed area is huge. All exotic game purchased is through registered government bonded breeders and is COMPLETELY legal. The choice to hunt an animal in this fashion is completely legal the choice is yours , Rob gives you the area to hunt your game of choice in a challenging setting wether it be wild boar or farm bred mule deer. The operation is completely legal and the MNR has given its blessing after reviewing the property. I consider Rob a good friend and cannot sit by and let ignorant accusations and falsehoods about his business get printed on a forum such as this one. You may think this type of hunting is wrong or unfair but that is your opinion! Woods and Water operates in a legal manner and is run by one hell of a dedicated sportsmen!! Just thought I'd set the record straight,

Regards, WEST

Re: Dream Hunt

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Posted by Braden on July 19, 2000 at 21:49:20:

In Reply to: Re: Dream Hunt posted by Hitman on July 19, 2000 at 17:54:03:

Alaskan Bull Moose, not some 800 pound weakling with a teeny rack, But a bonafide 1400 pounder with a rack as big as a chevette on his head. Follow it up with an Alaskan Brown, and then send me over to the prairies with Hitman for some non-stop goose getting.

Re: Woods and Water

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Posted by Sparky on July 19, 2000 at 20:42:12:

In Reply to: Re: Woods and Water posted by Hitman on July 19, 2000 at 11:53:51:

I believe that this is the guy that is up our way Hitman that was investigated by the MNR for allegedlly purchasing exotic animals from various locations such as zoos and then releasing them in a fenced off area for hunting. I thought that he was to be closed down ? and he was being protested during hunts.

hey dumb ass redneck do you ever ...

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Posted by chessy on July 19, 2000 at 19:59:07:

go to manooth to the bar where all the boys get together to "TRADE" INFORMATION WINK WINK

im hunting in algoquin park area 54/nm

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Posted by chessy on July 19, 2000 at 19:56:58:

In Reply to: Re: Deer Hunt Application posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on July 19, 2000 at 06:01:12:

nm

Re: Dream Hunt

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Posted by Hitman on July 19, 2000 at 17:54:03:

In Reply to: Dream Hunt posted by Fischer on July 19, 2000 at 08:51:19:

Send me out to the prairies for about 5 weeks of non-stop hunting. Ducks and geese in fields. Maybe a huge whitetail in Saskatchewan after that, and then when it gets too cold, pop down to Argentina and blow my brains out on ducks and doves for a about 3 weeks.

Anyone want to join me?

Hitman

www.chesapeakewaterfowlers.com

Re: Dream Hunt

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Posted by Kern on July 19, 2000 at 15:21:35:

In Reply to: Re: Dream Hunt posted by Fischer on July 19, 2000 at 13:20:55:

I grew up in Labrador so Caribou isnt on my list of things I want to do, In fact, I think they are a little over rated! To be honest Ild love a duck hunt where it just me, my decoys and waves upon waves of Mallards and Blacks coming in from all directions - eclipsing the sun as they cup over my spread!! In the big game catagory maybe Moose or Elk and I think it would be with a crossbow.

Re: Dream Hunt

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Posted by Fischer on July 19, 2000 at 13:20:55:

In Reply to: Re: Dream Hunt posted by Kern on July 19, 2000 at 13:02:36:

Cool pistol, Kern. What do think about them making it in a left hand action, for more rapid cycling for us right hand shooters? Kinda like feeding a magazine with the left hand while maintaining full grip with the right.

They were using S&W Model 29 stainless in 44 mag. One appeared to have the standard 8 1/2" bbl, while the other was a special production hunting pistol, with a 12" bbl and carrying sling. Both pistols were scoped. I don't recall them saying what power the scopes were, but unless it was some minimal magnification, like a 1.5X or 2.5X it would seem to me to be a problem at the short range (30 yds.) they were shooting. Personally, I think I'd prefer iron sights or maybe even an Aimpoint type sight, for that up close and personal type shooting. Though I think the S&W or Ruger Redhawk 44 would be equal choice of gun for me. I'd likely even use my old Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag, 10".

So, what's your dream hunt, Kern?

Re: Dream Hunt

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Posted by Kern on July 19, 2000 at 13:02:36:

In Reply to: Dream Hunt posted by Fischer on July 19, 2000 at 08:51:19:

I missed that one Fischer...what kind of handguns were they using?? If I were to hunt like that, my choice of gun would be one of these..... Weatherby

Re: Woods and Water

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Posted by Hitman on July 19, 2000 at 11:53:51:

In Reply to: Re: Woods and Water posted by Kern on July 18, 2000 at 22:35:06:

Well, I have never dealt with the guy so I can't say for sure. However there are a lot of bad rumours going around the local area. I know he hunted on a friend of mines property and pulled a real bonehead move. Also, was in the newspaper with regards to being charged by the MNR. He is the guy that all the talk over hunting exotics in an enclosure has been over in the past year.

Re: Dream Hunt

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Posted by TDC on July 19, 2000 at 09:16:34:

In Reply to: Dream Hunt posted by Fischer on July 19, 2000 at 08:51:19:

Fischer,I saw that show too and loved it. I thought those guys were nuts though when they caught that live pig and put it in the cage .....from what I have read one wrong move can cost you several stitches with those things.As far as dream hunts go (in Canada),I would love to complete a Newfoundland Grand Slam (moose,bear ,caribou)and I understand that such hunts are available if you have the bucks (Which I don't at the moment). I have a friend who is nutso to someday hunt African plains game and he has actually started saving up already...Take care...TDC

Dream Hunt

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Posted by Fischer on July 19, 2000 at 08:51:19:

Hey, everyone. I wrote below that my dream hunt would be to hunt wild boar with a handgun. Sunday night, on Advantage Outdoors, Wade Bourne did just that. They used cur dogs to locate the boars, which usually holed up in some palmetto bush. They then had to go in and chase the boar out into the open, hoping the dog could bay the boar again, in the open. There is a real possibility that the boar will take a run at you in this situation! Once in the open, it was very difficult to get a clear shot on the boar, because the dog was in there like a dirty shirt! Range was about 30 yards. Wade Bourne made it clear that this was a pretty tense hunt, and that he much preferred to use a .308 and keep some distance from his quarry.

Funny part of the show was when they captured a 200 lb. wild boar by hand! No tranquilizer, just grab a leg! It was a "mule-footed" boar, which is a descendant of the original pigs that the Spanish brought to America, but has a mule (horse) shaped hoof, instead of a cloven hoof. They wanted to relocate it to another island, to breed with some similar sows, in hopes of building up a population.

I taped the show and only had a chance to watch it last night. I'm glad I taped it, because I will be watching it again, for sure.

Anyway, I wanted to know what anybody else's dream hunt would be.

Re: Deer Hunt Application

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Posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on July 19, 2000 at 06:01:18:

In Reply to: Re: Deer Hunt Application posted by hitman on July 18, 2000 at 13:30:02:

Why thank you Hitman!!!!! Anyway the deadline for a phone in app is July 31 but if you're mailing your app in, it has to be in the MNR's possesion on July 31........postmarked on July 31 does not count!!!!!!!!! Good luck to all and where is everyone hunting this year??? I'm going to be in the 56 area with the rest of my DUMB A$$ RED NECK GANG!!!!!!

Re: Deer Hunt Application

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Posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on July 19, 2000 at 06:01:12:

In Reply to: Re: Deer Hunt Application posted by hitman on July 18, 2000 at 13:30:02:

Why thank you Hitman!!!!! Anyway the deadline for a phone in app is July 31 but if you're mailing your app in, it has to be in the MNR's possesion on July 31........postmarked on July 31 does not count!!!!!!!!! Good luck to all and where is everyone hunting this year??? I'm going to be in the 56 are with the rest of my DUMB A$$ RED NECK GANG!!!!!!

Re: Moose hunting

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Posted by Kevin on July 18, 2000 at 23:06:25:

In Reply to: Re: Moose hunting posted by Charles i on July 18, 2000 at 21:49:04:

I`m not familiar with that area but I would expect it to be heavily hunted due to the close proximity to some larger centers.We just had another car moose collision fifteen minutes north of the Sault, there`s two or three every year at the same location.We usually have a few moose run through the city every year, it`s not that uncommon to drive north to Wawa and see them along the highway.What ever area you decide on a topo map would be an asset.

Re: Woods and Water

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Posted by Kern on July 18, 2000 at 22:35:06:

In Reply to: Re: Woods and Water posted by hitman on July 17, 2000 at 21:57:22:

Hitman...sounds like you know these guys or heard of them? If you share your story you might save someone else a spoiled hunt.

Re: Moose hunting

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Posted by Charles i on July 18, 2000 at 21:49:04:

In Reply to: Moose hunting posted by Kevin on July 18, 2000 at 21:26:28:

That would be unit 40, boat access. Red cedar lake, marten river area. don't know if this is a heavy moose area. don't know if this is a heavily hunted area.

Moose hunting

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Posted by Kevin on July 18, 2000 at 21:26:28:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by charles i on July 18, 2000 at 20:54:59:

Charles; Is that area 40 or 41? Fly in or boat access?

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by charles i on July 18, 2000 at 20:57:11:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by Kevin on July 18, 2000 at 19:27:24:

oops just realized you were talkin deer density we are wondering also about moose density.

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by charles i on July 18, 2000 at 20:54:59:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by Kevin on July 18, 2000 at 19:27:24:

thanks for the info, we have a cabin on sugar island, canadian St. Mary's river side at the southern most tip we fish for walleye at the St. Joseph Island bridge and have taken our boat up into Echo Bay. we are looking at a moose hunt near Marten lake, went to Oba lake area last year.

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by Kevin on July 18, 2000 at 19:27:24:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by charles i on July 18, 2000 at 18:39:01:

Charles;
The high density deer areas would be the areas east of Sault Ste. Marie from Echo Bay eastward.
St.Joseph Island and Manitoulin Island have the highest concentrated deer population but both are primarily private land.

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by charles i on July 18, 2000 at 18:39:01:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by Kevin on July 17, 2000 at 23:51:59:

thanks kevin, actually need to update arobatic reader, get it when i click onyour link just need to have it saved now as you said in "my briefcase" is there any info out there showing actual deer density and areas? thank u for all your help!

Re: GPS Info required

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Posted by Kevin on July 18, 2000 at 18:33:09:

In Reply to: GPS Info required posted by Karl on July 18, 2000 at 08:49:44:

This one or the new model?

Re: Deer Hunt Application

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Posted by hitman on July 18, 2000 at 13:30:02:

In Reply to: Deer Hunt Application posted by Jack on July 18, 2000 at 05:23:03:

I believe the deadline is July 31, atleast for mail ins.

Hey Redneck, your name is suiting.

Hitman

Re: woodcock in ON, other upland b?

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Posted by Chuck on July 18, 2000 at 10:57:49:

In Reply to: woodcock in ON, other upland b? posted by Leon on July 17, 2000 at 14:07:20:

Yes there are hunters in Ontario who specifically go after Woodcock, myself the ones that I have shot were while grouse hunting. There are some wild pheasants around the Ottawa valley but they are few and far between. I am not sure but I think southern ontario may have some wild pheasants as well. The grouse hunting in the Ottawa valley has been spectacular the last couple of years.

Re: Deer Hunt Application

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Posted by bowhunter on July 18, 2000 at 09:32:47:

In Reply to: Re: Deer Hunt Application posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on July 18, 2000 at 06:09:41:

Actually since introduction of the 1-800 service for purchasing your licence and applying for anterless tags, they have sent those using this system a pamphlet with the phone number and instructions for using the system. I guess this year they decided to save the cost of the mailing. Check the MNR website, the 1-800 number is posted there and the pamphlet can be downloaded. http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/

Re: Deer Hunt Application

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Posted by Kern on July 18, 2000 at 09:11:58:

In Reply to: Deer Hunt Application posted by Jack on July 18, 2000 at 05:23:03:

Andy posted something concerning the draw a while back... here is the link http://www.zoo.utoronto.ca/FUN/deer.htm

GPS Info required

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Posted by Karl on July 18, 2000 at 08:49:44:

Does anyone have any info good or bad about the Garmin E-Trek Gps? Seems very nice and compact. Thanks

Re: Deer Hunt Application

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Posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on July 18, 2000 at 06:09:41:

In Reply to: Deer Hunt Application posted by Jack on July 18, 2000 at 05:23:03:

What the hell are you talking about.......you think the golldarn govrnment has the time & money to send you a presonal notice???? Wake up & smell the coffee.....they have never sent you a notice and they never will............what the hell have you been smoking?????????????

Deer Hunt Application

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Posted by Jack on July 18, 2000 at 05:23:03:

Usually I receive a notice from the N.R. regarding application for the anterless deer hunt. As key the application on my birthday as not to miss the deadline, i have not seen he application form. My question , has antone else??

Re: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today...send me one!!:)

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Posted by Nicole on July 18, 2000 at 00:54:05:

In Reply to: Re: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today...send me one!!:) posted by Jennifer on June 30, 2000 at 22:13:55:

i eat meat because i am a human! God gave us animals to eat...i do what He says.

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by Kevin on July 17, 2000 at 23:51:59:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by Charles Iverson on July 17, 2000 at 22:38:01:

Charles;
Let it load just as it did before then hit fileat the top of your browser and then selectsave as then put it in your brief case file, my documents or another of your choice then it`s there when you need it.Later on you can delete it and get rid of it.

Re: Bow VS Crossbow

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Posted by CHARLIE on July 17, 2000 at 22:58:18:

In Reply to: Re: Bow VS Crossbow posted by Nimrod on October 15, 1999 at 12:03:44:

CAPTIAN IS RIGHT. I use a crossbow and its not by choice, after a feak injury to my shoulder. Im unable to pull a conventional bow back. If not for a crossbow, my archery hunting would be over. The thought of that would send this hunter into a deep deep hole. In short , the crossbows range is comparible to a conventional bows range.(20-30 yards) But a hunt is still a hunt. if you cant hunt and get into "bow range". even a crossbow will not do the job. CHARLIE.

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by Charles Iverson on July 17, 2000 at 22:38:01:

In Reply to: Re: wildlife management unit map posted by Kevin on July 17, 2000 at 20:20:10:

thanks for the info and download don't know what happened by download got lost somewhere in our computer and disappeared for another download from your click on could we try that again . or just give me web address to go directly to it. Not real good at this downloading and it went directly into download without letting me tell it where to put it ie: C drive, etc. thanks!

Re: Woods and Water

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Posted by West on July 17, 2000 at 22:24:51:

In Reply to: Woods and Water posted by HARVIE on July 17, 2000 at 19:57:01:

Hey Harvie,

I've personally used Woods and Waters guiding service and taxidermy service. Rob who owns the business is as professional and knowledgable as they come. I am not familiar with all of the land he has access to but it does include quite a bit of different terrains and animal habitat. I suggest getting in touch with him and having him describe the club. You will see for yourself the man knows hunting and guiding. I speak from experience and would not hesitate to recommend his outfit. Check out his website for more details www.wahc.com

Regards, WEST

Re: Woods and Water

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Posted by hitman on July 17, 2000 at 21:57:22:

In Reply to: Woods and Water posted by HARVIE on July 17, 2000 at 19:57:01:

Be careful, be very careful.

Hitman

Re: wildlife management unit map

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Posted by Kevin on July 17, 2000 at 20:20:10:

In Reply to: wildlife management unit map posted by charles iverson on July 17, 2000 at 19:18:31:

Charles;
You can download it from this link and then save it.
It takes a few minutes if you don`t have the high speed connection.
Ontario Regs
Go to page 49 of 91 and you should be in the ball park.

Kevin Watson Hunting Algoma

Woods and Water

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Posted by HARVIE on July 17, 2000 at 19:57:01:

Has anyone used Woods And Water Hunting Club. I was wondering what the land they offer is like and if it would be worth the 500$ the are charging. I am not interested in their guiding service.

wildlife management unit map

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Posted by charles iverson on July 17, 2000 at 19:18:31:

thank you for the help with moose hunts we have found several available for this fall thru noto! next question - i have been searching the web for a map showing the wildlife management units for ontario can't find one. figure there is one there somewhere must be using the wrong key words i have tried the ministry of natural resources but don't seem to be connecting if there is such a link to it. any help would be appreciated, thanks!

woodcock in ON, other upland b?

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Posted by Leon on July 17, 2000 at 14:07:20:

Hi all,

I was wondering - do you people hunt woodcock in ON? I'd be interested to hear about hunting grouse, pheasant and other upland birds.

I was told you have to go to game preserve to shoot pheasant? Any recommendations?

Leon

Re: Challenger Steel Loads/watch for payload size

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Posted by Kern on July 16, 2000 at 15:45:53:

In Reply to: Re: Challenger Steel Loads? posted by sparky on July 16, 2000 at 08:56:34:

Not that I want to take sides here between Challenger & Winchester, but make sure you are comparing the same load. I find Remington packs large payloads - 1 7/8 oz on some of their steel loads, which will pattern nice but wont give you much range and fps @ the muzzle is lost as well. I look for loads in the 1 3/8 to 1 5/8 oz. as these usually give you the best muzzle velocities and as we all know with steel, the bottom line is speed kills. If you look at anyones HV Steel loads, they will all be 1 3/8 oz or smaller. BTW these sizes are all for 10 ga steel - not much help to 12 ga shooters but the same applies to the smaller gauges.

don't be so cheap and reload # 2 all the way

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Posted by chessy on July 16, 2000 at 13:57:38:

In Reply to: Re: Challenger Steel Loads? posted by sparky on July 16, 2000 at 08:56:34:

nm

Re: Challenger Steel Loads?

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Posted by sparky on July 16, 2000 at 08:56:34:

In Reply to: Challenger Steel Loads? posted by WEST on July 13, 2000 at 10:29:33:

I too used the 3" #2's on ducks last year and found them a bit better on range than the winchester shells. I used 3 1/2" remington T shot on Canadas but will be trying the 3" BB Challengers this year on them.

Re: Looking For A Good Gunsmith

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Posted by pete thain on July 14, 2000 at 12:11:59:

In Reply to: Looking For A Good Gunsmith posted by DEER SLAYER on October 03, 1999 at 06:37:02:

I need night sites installed,a new spring in the loaded chamber indicator,and maybe some work on the guide ramp for the chamber need professional opinion. This is a walther ppks that i bought for my girlfriend for her birthday and i would like to do these things for this birthday. i would pay for fast shipping as her birthday is 7/22/00 waited long enough did'nt if you can help please advise thanks pete

Thanx guys! BTW Rick.

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Posted by Braden on July 14, 2000 at 12:02:51:

In Reply to: Re: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em? posted by Rick Teal on July 13, 2000 at 21:26:34:

I am going to do wet phone book tests to see results. I am only pushing them at a calculated velocity of 2650-2700fps. This is on the low spectrum as the max load I have listed at 3050fps or thereabouts. I'll let you know what happens.

Braden

Re: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em?

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Posted by Rick Teal on July 13, 2000 at 21:26:34:

In Reply to: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em? posted by Braden on July 12, 2000 at 00:51:12:

I used 180 gr ballistics loaded to 2470 fps in my 30-06 almost exclusively between 1984 and 1991. I shot 11 deer and one moose with them during this period, and they always performed perfectly, with only 1 deer travelling as far as 70 yds from the point of impact - most dropping on the spot. I shot 2 more with this load last year, with similar results.

The only problem I had was one year, after reading a bunch of US propaganda, I tried 150 grainers. These bullets over penetrated because of the high velocity and (I believe) light weight that didn't allow the plunger tip to perform as designed. Both deer required lengthy tracking jobs, and one deer wasn't recovered.

My advice is to deep six the 150's, and use 180's with a reduced load.

Re: Challenger Steel Loads?

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Posted by hitman on July 13, 2000 at 17:06:39:

In Reply to: Challenger Steel Loads? posted by WEST on July 13, 2000 at 10:29:33:

I shot the Challenger load last year. 3" number 2's all season on ducks and geese. Shot the BB's on geese as well. The 2's patterened awesome through my Benelli with an I.C. choke. Very fast load, over 1450 fps. Speed is what you need now with steel. The faster it is, the more downrange energy you have, which relates to knockdown power.

Not sure if any of you guys have ever bought the "Supreme" shotgun shells from Canadian Tire. They were 13.99 for a box of twenty. Half way through the season they want down to 11.99 a box. Well if ya didn't, here is a tip for ya.............they're Challengers!!! The exact same load, but quite a bit cheaper. The only problem is that they are not making them for CTC anymore. I hit all the CTC's in my area and bought up all I could. Got about 4 flats now. Might want to look into it.

Hitman

Re: Challenger Steel Loads?

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Posted by Tod Vandrish on July 13, 2000 at 14:49:57:

In Reply to: Challenger Steel Loads? posted by WEST on July 13, 2000 at 10:29:33:

Never used them on Waterfowl. I patterned a box of 2's out of my gun and they shot terrible. That's not to say they won't shoot well out of the next gun. Best thing to do is get a box and pattern through your own gun and the decide. Good luck and good hunting.

Tod

Re: "Ask the CO"

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Posted by Tod Vandrish on July 13, 2000 at 14:38:40:

In Reply to: Re: "Ask the CO" posted by Andy on July 13, 2000 at 10:27:04:

Andy

Thanks for the feedback. I understand the difficulty staying on top of this type of thing. Again I applaud you for taking the initiative for setting up this site.

Tod

Good stuff!

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Posted by Braden on July 13, 2000 at 12:10:34:

In Reply to: Challenger Steel Loads? posted by WEST on July 13, 2000 at 10:29:33:

Buy with confidence. Found BB to be the ideal size for large ducks and geese. 1450fps I believe.

Re: Challenger Steel Loads?

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Posted by Shotgunner on July 13, 2000 at 11:15:23:

In Reply to: Challenger Steel Loads? posted by WEST on July 13, 2000 at 10:29:33:

I used 2 3/4, #4 steel shot last year for blue bills and I thought they were great. I didn't get many ducks, but that wasn't the shots fault. The shells performed flawlessly when I fired them. They're a good buy, they're cheap and it's a Canadian company. You'll like these shells, they're all I ever buy!

Challenger Steel Loads?

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Posted by WEST on July 13, 2000 at 10:29:33:

Hey Guys,

Thought I'd give Challenger steel loads a try this year, was wondering what you guys think of them. Anybody use them on a regular basis last year? How did they perform? Yardage and accuracy etc. I'm going to use mainly 3" for ducks and geese if they work out. Any comments or tips would be greatly apprecited!!!

Regards, WEST

Re: "Ask the CO"

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Posted by Andy on July 13, 2000 at 10:27:04:

In Reply to: "Ask the CO" posted by Tod Vandrish on July 13, 2000 at 09:30:31:

We're working on getting the responses in a more timely manner. The problem has been twofold. 1), the volume of questions and 2), MNR staff being inundated with other work. Also, many of the questions being asked are not appropriate. I've now started to ignore these totally as it is just too time consuming to send email to someone suggesting they check local clubs or the district office for an answer to, say, "where is the best place for hunting groundhogs in the London area". We are behind about a month's worth of questions right now. I hope to have this backlog cleared shortly.

Re: "Ask the CO"

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Posted by chessy on July 13, 2000 at 10:01:59:

In Reply to: "Ask the CO" posted by Tod Vandrish on July 13, 2000 at 09:30:31:

every time i ask a question via phone or at the sportsman show they tell me to ask the game warden in the area i be hunting they say it depends on HIS INTREPRIATON OF THE LAW so no matter what one CO says ask the CO in the area that you are going to be hunting good luck

"Ask the CO"

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Posted by Tod Vandrish on July 13, 2000 at 09:30:31:

Just recently started visiting this site. Seems like a great hunting resource and will continue to drop in.

I had a question concerning the "Ask the CO" link. This is a fantastic idea and a great way to obtain information from our CO's on things that are not always covered, or clear in the regualtions. My question was, how often do they update this page? It is a great idea but not much good if the questions don't get answered. I don't believe the questions have been answered for several months now. Just curious whether I should give the local CO a call for my questions or wait.

Anyways, thanks for the great site and I look forward to spending more time here.

Regards

Tod

Re: Gun bluing (blueing?)

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Posted by steel zheng on July 12, 2000 at 23:45:24:

In Reply to: Gun bluing (blueing?) posted by Dan on October 05, 1999 at 13:28:43:

stupefaction gun

100 yard range near Ridgetown??

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Posted by Braden on July 12, 2000 at 09:42:47:

Anyone know of a 100 yard range in and around Ridgetown/Rondeau bay area that is open Saturdays? If so could you post directions please. Thanks, also it has to be open to the public. Tall order. Would appreciate the info.

Re: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em?

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Posted by TDC on July 12, 2000 at 09:28:36:

In Reply to: Re: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em? posted by Tackleberry on July 12, 2000 at 01:57:02:

I know how you feel about the V-max. Tried some 35 grain V-Max in my Ruger Hornet.Have sent several chucks to the big hayfield in the sky with it.Like you said,they are very explosive and show much improved performance over the 45 grain softpoints I used to use . I have also dusted several crows with them out in the corn field back in the spring before the corn sprouted.....they just go poof in a big black cloud of feathers and several were almost blown in two ( our cat never had it so good).....my friend has a Remington 700 stainless Varmint Synthetic in .220 Swift and he's going to get some V-max to try . They should be a bombshell in that thing..........TDC

Re: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em?

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Posted by jason whyte on July 12, 2000 at 07:11:35:

In Reply to: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em? posted by Braden on July 12, 2000 at 00:51:12:

i have used the ballistic tip 130 grain for deer and had great results i have shot them in the neck and chest both shot placements have put them where they belong on the ground no chaseing them and the do not perform like the smaller bullits do my buddy shoots the 55 grain ballistic tip and it makes a mess of gophers but once you step up to the bigger calibiers they are more of a pricicion bullit these bullets are great for accuaracy and what i like is the head does not dammage in cycling the bullets in and out of the gun you will like them if you really want to see what the bullet will do try doing this 1 get rubber tube = skin 2 1 inch of wet news paper = flesh 3 1/4 inch ply wood = bone and then 8 inch of wet paper = cavaty if the bullets pass thru back up or add more paper and make sure the paper is really soaked i seen this once in a mag it is almost as good as that geleten they use that is what they said any way good luck and you will have great sucsess with that bullet

Re: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em?

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Posted by Tackleberry on July 12, 2000 at 01:57:02:

In Reply to: Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em? posted by Braden on July 12, 2000 at 00:51:12:

Well funny you should ask, ...... I just started using the 95gr. Hornady VMax for ground hogs. What performance !!!! I have taken four with these rounds and have been impressed so , that I'm thinking of writing the company.

One was a chest and shoulder shot. Kind of hard to distinguish due to the damage. Effectively severed the shoulder. The other three were head shots two standing and one in the borrow. The ballistic performance on the head is incredable. (you know the old saying, "this your brain on drugs" ? well I have a new saying, "this is your brain on grass" ) Yes I'm being graffic, but the performance is very graffic.

If a bullet is ever able to ""explode" (with out having a secondary charge - artillery) then this is it. The velocity & resistance driving that polymertip into the bullet which causes the rapid expansion does give the appearance of explosion.

That said , ... I'm not sure if I'd want to use it on a "game" animal for the freezer. The performance should "take" the game but I'm wondereing out loud if there might be too much destroyed meat.

(don't worry, no ground hogs were harmed in the usage of these VMax. - they didn't feel a thing)

Tack

Nosler ballistic tips, anyone used em?

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Posted by Braden on July 12, 2000 at 00:51:12:

Just loaded up 50 rounds of 150 grainers for my -06, anyone used these bullets before? How was the performance? Thanks!

Re: ::kindly flicks off idiot hunters::

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Posted by shotgunner on July 11, 2000 at 11:23:57:

In Reply to: ::kindly flicks off idiot hunters:: posted by ShadowFox on July 11, 2000 at 10:53:35:

This is for the hunting board. Let it go guys, don't let this pi$$ you off, don't reply just be the better man!

::kindly flicks off idiot hunters::

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Posted by ShadowFox on July 11, 2000 at 10:53:35:

Buncha morons...

Day`s site

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Posted by Kevin on July 10, 2000 at 19:19:15:

In Reply to: Re: Your next Prime Minister posted by TDC on July 10, 2000 at 09:53:58:

The site takes a minute to load. Stockwell Day

Re: Your next Prime Minister

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Posted by TDC on July 10, 2000 at 09:53:58:

In Reply to: Your next Prime Minister posted by Kevin on July 08, 2000 at 23:22:59:

Kevin,all I keep hearing about is his stand on social issues. What exactly are his personal views on gun control?......Terry

Re: Your next Prime Minister

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Posted by Bob on July 10, 2000 at 06:04:04:

In Reply to: Your next Prime Minister posted by Kevin on July 08, 2000 at 23:22:59:

Put him in office He's got to be better than what we have now!

Re: Your next Prime Minister

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Posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on July 10, 2000 at 05:18:49:

In Reply to: Your next Prime Minister posted by Kevin on July 08, 2000 at 23:22:59:

God help us if he becomes Prime Minister.......he a bible thumping, pro life a$$hole......against abortion and you can be sure he's most likely an anti hunter as well!!!!!!!!!! I really think it's better to deal with an evil we know than with one we don't!!!!!!!!!!! Just this DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER'S .02 cents worth...............

Re: moose hunts

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Posted by Kevin on July 09, 2000 at 23:14:34:

In Reply to: moose hunts posted by penny charles iverson on July 09, 2000 at 20:30:16:

Penny;
Here`s a link for you.
Moose Hunting

Re: Wild boars/feral hogs in Ontario?

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Posted by dogger on July 09, 2000 at 22:01:19:

In Reply to: Wild boars/feral hogs in Ontario? posted by Nimrod on July 06, 2000 at 15:07:49:

i believe it is griffith ilse. big $$ and its by invatation only!

moose hunts

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Posted by penny charles iverson on July 09, 2000 at 20:30:16:

hi first of all we live in bear lake, michigan have a cabin on sugar island michigan right of sault ste. marie, when we look the window of our cabin we see the st. mary's river and canadian islands. we are not long off the end of our dock but that we are in canadian waters. All of my family are canadian!! I love canada. My husband took his father moose hunting last fall at Tatnall camp on oba lake in ontario , while they did not get a moose they had a great time an met alot of wonderful people. they were able to get this hunt due to the men that were to hunt having to cancel. My husband is looking for a moose hunt for this fall (probably all booked but.......) anyone knowing of an available moose hunt within 500 miles of Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario please let us know. we would also love to hear from other moose hunters and the tales of their hunts. thank you (:

Re: Your next Prime Minister

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Posted by Braden on July 09, 2000 at 16:55:40:

In Reply to: Re: Your next Prime Minister posted by roho on July 09, 2000 at 10:02:26:

Sounds like a prince, let's hope he don't turn into kermit when we kiss him.

Re: Your next Prime Minister

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Posted by roho on July 09, 2000 at 10:02:26:

In Reply to: Your next Prime Minister posted by Kevin on July 08, 2000 at 23:22:59:

I truly hope your right,but we had all better start selling the message,with out in roads in ontario+east it won't happen roho

Your next Prime Minister

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Posted by Kevin on July 08, 2000 at 23:22:59:

Kiss registration and the Liberals good-bye!

Nonsense revolution

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Posted by Kevin on July 08, 2000 at 10:59:30:

In Reply to: Dump bear trouble posted by Bob on July 02, 2000 at 19:09:46:

CFS answer to my paint-ball gun question

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Posted by Fischer on July 07, 2000 at 13:47:00:

You'll recall a couple of weeks ago I posted a question about whether paint-ball guns which fire over 500 fps would need to be registered, restricted or prohibited. Here is the (non)answer from CFS. I guess the first paragraph answers it, but not very clearly, and doesn't indicate whether CFS is actually going to actively begin a campaign to register these "firearms".

RESPONSE TO ENQUIRY : Thank you for your request for information. Air guns that fire at a muzzle velocity of over 500 feet per second are considered firearms and as such they must be registered and a licence is required to possess or acquire them.

If the devices are designed, altered or intented to be discharged with the use of one hand, they are handguns and therefore restricted firearms. In the event that the air guns in question fire under 500 feet per second, you may wish to know that some low velocity air guns are considered replica firearms and as such are prohibited devices. A replica is a device that looks like a firearm but does not meet the definition of a firearm. In the case of airsoft guns, they will not meet the definition of a firearm if they are unable to cause serious bodily injury or death. Airsoft guns that either do not look like firearms or are able to cause serious bodily injury or death are not prohibited.

I hope the above is of assistance to you. You may also wish to review our fact sheet on Air guns in the information for owners and users section on our web site at www.cfc.gc.ca . Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you require further information. Sincerely,

Julie Besner Canadian Firearms Centre

Friends don`t let friends drive Fords.

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Posted by Kevin on July 07, 2000 at 13:42:52:

In Reply to: Ford Canada Caves into Anti's posted by Brian on July 06, 2000 at 22:26:03:

Re: Ford Canada Caves into Anti's

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Posted by mike on July 07, 2000 at 12:21:46:

In Reply to: Ford Canada Caves into Anti's posted by Brian on July 06, 2000 at 22:26:03:

Sent them a e-mail..

Re: challeger shotgun shells

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Posted by Horntrip on July 07, 2000 at 11:36:28:

In Reply to: challeger shotgun shells posted by Matt Ward on July 06, 2000 at 20:12:08:

Not sure if this is what you are looking for or not. http://www.victorycom.com/GameLoads.html

Re: Wild boars/feral hogs in Ontario?

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Posted by Fischer on July 07, 2000 at 08:09:51:

In Reply to: Wild boars/feral hogs in Ontario? posted by Nimrod on July 06, 2000 at 15:07:49:

I have heard of it. It's a private island. A friend of a friend was invited up there for a hunt and got a boar.

As an aside, my dream hunt has always been to hunt wild boar with a handgun. Real up close and personal like. :)

Re: Ford Canada Caves into Anti's

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Posted by Bob on July 07, 2000 at 07:13:50:

In Reply to: Ford Canada Caves into Anti's posted by Brian on July 06, 2000 at 22:26:03:

Heres where to get them http://www.ford.ca/english/Contact.asp

Ford Canada Caves into Anti's

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Posted by Brian on July 06, 2000 at 22:26:03:

Ford has dropped the Ultimate Hunting Experience from there Northern Ontario Outdoor Experience contest.I was in looking at a new F150 SuperCrew about a month ago and a testdrive got you an entry. Went back today to make a deal and noticed the hunt had been dropped. Asked dealer why, Anti's got a letter writing going.Please send Ford a letter comending them on offering the hunt (Whitetails in NW Ont.) and ask that they re-instate it. If Ford got 10 Anti letters lets send 100 Pro letters.

challeger shotgun shells

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Posted by Matt Ward on July 06, 2000 at 20:12:08:

Does anyone know if they have a web site or where I could find information on there loads. I was wondering if they loaded any 10 gauge steel. Thank you for your help.

Matt

Wild boars/feral hogs in Ontario?

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Posted by Nimrod on July 06, 2000 at 15:07:49:

I used to know someone who had a cottage up at Big Bay, just north of Owen Sound on the east shore of the Bruce Peninsula. Just offshore from there, to the north, are three small islands: Hay Island, White Cloud Island and Griffith Island. He used to tell me that once upon a time some Russian wild boar/feral hogs were planted on one or more of those islands. Has anyone ever heard this, or know of any other places in Ontario with wild boar (not on a preserve)?

RBWA

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Posted by Shooter on July 06, 2000 at 00:17:41:

In Reply to: Re: Long Point posted by Braden on July 02, 2000 at 21:21:10:

http://netvine.com/hp/rbwa.htm

shooter

Re: Remington 11-48?

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Posted by Rebel on July 04, 2000 at 21:57:59:

In Reply to: Remington 11-48? posted by Lonegunner on October 13, 1999 at 17:15:27:

I have a 16ga 11-48. It's a great gun but shell are high for the 16ga.

Re: HUNTING WITH HOUNDS

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Posted by poacher's of canada on July 04, 2000 at 21:55:06:

In Reply to: HUNTING WITH HOUNDS posted by Lucy Gannon on April 02, 2000 at 10:07:57:

Dear lucy. Personally I think that you are city raised and never had to starve for a month in your life.To sit in a tree stand over top of a baitstation is cruel and unsporting. When you have to go out for days scouting for tracks then going threw the long hours of the hunt with your dogs you would realize that you have a better appreaciation for the annimal that was bagged.Like the old saying goes,one dog is as good as twenty.So it doesn't really matter what one persons nieve opinion is of hunting with hounds until you've done it.

Yours trully Poachers of Canada.

Groundhog/chuck = Marmot

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Posted by Braden on July 04, 2000 at 20:11:04:

In Reply to: Re: Hogs??/Marmots posted by Kern on July 04, 2000 at 09:31:06:

Marmota Monax is classification given to groundhogs/woodchucks. See attached, while not the best reference I could give at least it is readily available on the net. http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~marmota/marmotburrow.html there are many different marmots, and yes rockchucks, etc. are all examples of marmots.

Braden

Re: Hogs??/Marmots

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Posted by TDC on July 04, 2000 at 11:55:04:

In Reply to: Re: Hogs??/Marmots posted by Kern on July 04, 2000 at 09:31:06:

I think you are right ,marmots are what the western guys call rockchucks which are smaller than the common woodchuck found around here.I think they are smaller than a woodchuck but larger than a prairie dog and have a different colour to them.....TDC

Re: Hogs??/Marmots

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Posted by Kern on July 04, 2000 at 09:31:06:

In Reply to: Hogs?? posted by Braden on July 02, 2000 at 13:19:49:

I might be wrong on this one but arent Marmots indigenous to more mountainous terrain and different in appearance to the common hog that we plink off here in southern Ontario?? I havent even spotted a dead one on the shoulder yet.

Re: Hogs??

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Posted by TDC on July 04, 2000 at 09:26:03:

In Reply to: Hogs?? posted by Braden on July 02, 2000 at 13:19:49:

Its better now that the first cut of hay is off. Got one last week at neighbour's place. Took my 31/2 year old with me for fun. The big challenge turned out trying to keep him quiet.

New Hunting Heritage Site

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Posted by Horntrip on July 03, 2000 at 16:07:18:

Heard Ted Nugent may be getting involved with this organization to help promote hunting as a Canadian Heritage. http://www.coha.net/

Re: Benelli Nova

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Posted by Mark Piechowski on July 03, 2000 at 10:39:57:

In Reply to: Benelli Nova posted by Shotgunner on September 18, 1999 at 14:16:37:

I have look all over for a Benelli Nova with a 47cm. slug barrel. They all told me that they have go out with is yet. Will slug barrel be out by July. Please let me Know.

Re: Dump bear trouble

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Posted by Kevin on July 03, 2000 at 07:19:22:

In Reply to: Dump bear trouble posted by Bob on July 02, 2000 at 19:09:46:

You`re lucky.

We have had one woman in Chapleau chewed up pretty bad from an attack by a black bear this spring.

Hunting Algoma

Re: Dump bear trouble

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Posted by mike on July 02, 2000 at 23:00:52:

In Reply to: Dump bear trouble posted by Bob on July 02, 2000 at 19:09:46:

Yes , Bob i think they should bring back the Spring Bear Hunt. Ask the people who get all the reports on Bear Reports around town's , Cottage the rates just keep going up i know last year the guy that does it for our area had over 165 call compare that to 56 calls the year before. your Right someone will be kill . Wake up { Ontario Government} before someone does get killed..

Re: Long Point

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Posted by Braden on July 02, 2000 at 21:21:10:

In Reply to: Long Point posted by Hitman on July 02, 2000 at 20:44:39:

Don't believe so. I have looked for both long point, and Rondeau waterfowlers on the web and never found em. There is a lot of shooting to be had out of the waterfowlers areas on longpoint. You don't have to pay to hunt or follow there guidlines (nothing wrong with them mind you, i am just opposed to shelling out every time when there are so many free options available) If you call the area MNR office they will likely supply you with a telephone #. Good luck

Long Point

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Posted by Hitman on July 02, 2000 at 20:44:39:

Does anyone know if Long Point Waterfowlers Association has a website??

Hitman

Dump bear trouble

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Posted by Bob on July 02, 2000 at 19:09:46:

Last night I made a trip to a dump near Harcourt Ontario. Mr Bear, I'd guess about 150 -200 lbs Male was there. I stepped out, he backed of to about 40 ft. I started to unload, keeping one eye on the bruin. As i worked away, he seemed content feeding on garbage, and I wasn't unloading food, so I let down my guard. I turned to find him less than 20 ft away, again feeding on garbage. I figured that was a little too close so I hollered at him, and he backed off to 40 ft again. I worked around to the other side of my trailer unloading, Looked up, and he's 5 feet from the drivers door of my jeep (oops! no retreat) I scooped up a handfull of old lava rocks, and nailed him solidly in the head with one. He rubbed his face a couple of times and ignored me! I just waited him out, unloading around him. When I was done, he was well away from my exit, and I did.

This is the making of a problem bear! He has little or no fear of humans, and is still a very young bear, he hasn't developed that omnipotent male bear swager or size just yet.

Ontario Government where is the spring bear hunt??? Will it take someone getting killed?

Hogs??

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Posted by Braden on July 02, 2000 at 13:19:49:

Anybody shoot any marmots lately? Hows it been so far?

Okay

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Posted by Braden on July 02, 2000 at 00:28:52:

In Reply to: "0" tolerance! posted by Kevin on July 01, 2000 at 11:59:42:

I can understand how you feel, and I try not to give an inch lest someone take a yard, but in this particular instance I can't agree. The article just doesn't sound ominous, or anti hunting to me. Sorry.

Braden

Re: "0" tolerance!

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Posted by Kern on July 01, 2000 at 20:14:57:

In Reply to: "0" tolerance! posted by Kevin on July 01, 2000 at 11:59:42:

It sounded kind of off the cuff to me.......was he serious??

"0" tolerance!

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Posted by Kevin on July 01, 2000 at 11:59:42:

In Reply to: Re: Hide Bambi Hide posted by Braden on July 01, 2000 at 03:07:27:

I don`t have any patience for ignorance, people comparing wild animals to cartoon characters is misleading and can only serve to demean the sport and mislead non hunters to where they will form a bias opinion against hunting and trapping. That`s the way I see it.

Re: Hide Bambi Hide

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Posted by Braden on July 01, 2000 at 03:07:27:

In Reply to: Hide Bambi Hide posted by Tod Vandrish on June 30, 2000 at 13:12:28:

O.K boys ease it up a notch, other than the cheesy title I couldn't find much in that article that ought to have them boycotted. It seems the reporter was stateing the opinions of a local councillor and not his own, but it's real late and I'm real tired so I may have mis-read. I am really sensitive to anti fishing/hunting stuff, and this didn't ring any alarm bells.

Re: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today...send me one!!:)

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Posted by Jennifer on June 30, 2000 at 22:13:55:

In Reply to: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today... posted by Dan on October 20, 1999 at 17:08:27:

People are anti PETA because they are against democracy and individual rights. If they had their way we would all be eating tofu and bean sprouts under a vegetarian communist dictatorship!!

Re: Hide Bambi Hide

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Posted by Kevin on June 30, 2000 at 14:15:11:

In Reply to: Hide Bambi Hide posted by Tod Vandrish on June 30, 2000 at 13:12:28:

I only support businesses that support the firearms community, that includes newspapers and I would encourage everyone else to do the same.

Hunting Algoma

Hide Bambi Hide

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Posted by Tod Vandrish on June 30, 2000 at 13:12:28:

Have a look at this article I found in the Ottawa Citizen

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/city/000630/4369985.html

A typical example of biased media. Let the editor know what you think.

Tod

Toys R Us

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Posted by Bob on June 30, 2000 at 06:29:35:

Picked this up off an American board. apparently Toys R Us is anti NRA. Here's the story http://www.nypostonline.com/business/6190.htm Let them know your thoughts at www.toysrus.com Like the NRA or not, we must stand together.

Re: motorola FRS radios

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Posted by Braden on June 29, 2000 at 12:59:58:

In Reply to: motorola FRS radios posted by Bent Arrow on June 28, 2000 at 23:47:29:

Used the FR60, and thought ththey where great! I have also used a buddies more expensive units in the field and found them to be extremely handy. This fall we are all going to purchase a unit.

motorola FRS radios

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Posted by Bent Arrow on June 28, 2000 at 23:47:29:

I was just wandering if anyone has any experience with tne new FRS two way radios from Motorola. if so what is your opinion.

Re: My First bow

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Posted by bowhunter on June 28, 2000 at 11:09:38:

In Reply to: My First bow posted by Kern on June 26, 2000 at 21:07:42:

I've had an Exocet for about 7 years and have been very happy with it. I've taken several whitetails with it. I mounted a Bushnell red dot on it and it's made for a deadly combination. Exomag was not available when I purchased mine. I am sure your going to well pleased with your purchase.

Re: Biggest deer seen by posters last year?

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Posted by bowhunter on June 28, 2000 at 11:01:58:

In Reply to: Biggest deer seen by posters last year? posted by glenn on June 23, 2000 at 22:12:31:

I personally took a nice 8 pt that scored 137 1/2 unofficial. He had good mass and long tines. Took him with my Excalibur Dec. 20 in WMU 69A. He was travelling with 5 other bucks, one of which might have been bigger than him.

Training a feist puppy

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Posted by Al on June 28, 2000 at 10:46:05:

Help! I have an 8 month old feist puppy in Oakville, and I need to find someone with training pens for woodchuck or squirrel around here. Does anyone know of anyone with feists or pens where I can get him started?

Re: My First bow

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Posted by Kern on June 27, 2000 at 22:01:58:

In Reply to: Re: My First bow posted by TDC on June 27, 2000 at 18:20:03:

Yes, I also put a Drop Zone scope on it. This weekend I want to try to set it up. Im still reading up on various arrow and broadhead combinations. A 2219 with a 130 gr wasp is the recommended combination but I hear many people on the Excalibur site including Bill the owner of Excalibur, use lighter combinations to flatten out their trajectory.

Re: T.O gun is out of business & Challenger Shells !

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Posted by Doug on June 27, 2000 at 19:56:57:

In Reply to: Re: T.O gun is out of business & Challenger Shells ! posted by Dave on June 23, 2000 at 22:00:47:

Lou Hummesones in Ancaster On. he is a dist. for them

Re: Be careful!

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Posted by Nimrod on June 27, 2000 at 19:28:31:

In Reply to: Be careful! posted by Fischer on June 26, 2000 at 10:35:23:

Thanks for the tip. However, the gun has a synthetic stock and it has already been drilled without incident. Thanx again.

Re: My First bow

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Posted by TDC on June 27, 2000 at 18:20:03:

In Reply to: My First bow posted by Kern on June 26, 2000 at 21:07:42:

Kern,did you go with the Drop Zone scope?

Re: My First bow

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Posted by roho on June 27, 2000 at 17:12:09:

In Reply to: My First bow posted by Kern on June 26, 2000 at 21:07:42:

good choice i am sure you will be happy with it+good hunting

Re: What can I hunt?

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Posted by Nimrod on June 27, 2000 at 16:35:10:

In Reply to: Re: What can I hunt? posted by Kern on June 27, 2000 at 09:31:53:

Just to expand upon what Kern said about using Bismuth in a full choke to hunt waterfowl, lead shot can no longer be used to hunt waterfowl. Steel and Bismuth are the 2 leading alternatives, however, steel shot is very hard (Bismuth is more like lead) and won't compress when travelling through a full choke. As a result, you may get poor patterns or, worse, damage to your choke/barrel.

Also, about waterfowl, I'm pretty sure that under the Migratory Game Birds Act you cannot hunt waterfowl with a .22 (and you would not want to use a .410). Shotguns only!

Re: What can I hunt?

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Posted by Kern on June 27, 2000 at 09:31:53:

In Reply to: What can I hunt? posted by Outdoorsman on June 25, 2000 at 11:59:33:

You can hunt almost anything with the guns you have, you just have to make every shot count as they are all single shots. The 22/410 would make a nice rabbit and grouse gun. If your 12 ga is a fixed full choke, you would have to use Bismuth if you want to shoot ducks and geese. The 12 can also be used on deer.

Challenger!!!

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Posted by Braden on June 27, 2000 at 00:34:27:

In Reply to: Re: T.O gun is out of business & Challenger Shells ! posted by Dave on June 23, 2000 at 22:00:47:

The great outdoors at Dundas and Dufferin carrys challengers, the proprieter is Nelson Anastacio (good guy) tel#538-6278. Tell him I sent you.

Double posts

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Posted by Kevin on June 26, 2000 at 21:54:32:

This isn`t directed at Kern but I thought I would just make mention of it for anyone who is double posting.

If you hit your reload or refresh option after your original post you will see the message you just posted.

My First bow

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Posted by Kern on June 26, 2000 at 21:07:42:

Picked up my first crossbow this past weekend. I finally settled on the Exomag from Excalibur. Thank you to everyone who posted.

My First bow

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Posted by Kern on June 26, 2000 at 21:05:46:

Picked up my first crossbow this past weekend. I finally settled on the Exomag from Excalibur. Thanks to everyone who

Be careful!

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Posted by Fischer on June 26, 2000 at 10:35:23:

In Reply to: Remington 1100 deer gun posted by Nimrod on June 22, 2000 at 15:09:42:

If you're going to install a sling swivel in your butt stock, start with a very small pilot hole, and, if possible, re-drill it once or twice more with a little larger bits, till you get to the size of your swivel screw. Put some bar soap or similar lubricant on the screw and tighten it in CAREFULLY!

Depending on the grain in the stock, you could very easily split a piece off the bottom if you just drill it once and try to screw the swivel straight in. It's very hard wood and there is a lot of tension in the grain.

Re: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today...

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Posted by Greg Torres on June 26, 2000 at 01:24:57:

In Reply to: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today... posted by Dan on October 20, 1999 at 17:08:27:

PETA Cares About Anamals..... But at any cost...... GREG TORRES gregtorres@vot4gop.org

Re: T.O gun is out of business & Challenger Shells !

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Posted by Kern on June 25, 2000 at 21:28:14:

In Reply to: Re: T.O gun is out of business & Challenger Shells ! posted by Dave on June 23, 2000 at 22:00:47:

I saw them at Gagnons...

What can I hunt?

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Posted by Outdoorsman on June 25, 2000 at 11:59:33:

I want to start hunting and would like to hunt upland birds and/or waterfowl. I'm wondering what I can hunt with a 12 guage single shot. i also am wondering what kind of bird i can hunt with an over-under it's a 22 on top and a 410 below. Thanks in advance, Outdoorsman

hunt camp for sale

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Posted by john on June 25, 2000 at 00:41:15:

hunt camp cottage hideout moose deer bear birds 650sqft sleeps six 3 acres cleard fully furnished trout fishing to beaver dams lakes creeks rolling hills hard woods 17 miles from north bay ontario drive to good road come take a look put your buddies together buy orlease $36000 CALL 705 472 2223 JOHN

hunt camp for sale

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Posted by john on June 25, 2000 at 00:37:12:

hunt camp cottage hideout moose deer bear birds 650sqft sleeps six 3 acres cleard fully furnished trout fishing to beaver dams lakes creeks rolling hills hard woods 17 miles from north bay ontario drive to good road come take a look put your buddies together buy orlease $36000 CALL 705 472 2223 JOHN

Re: well done

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Posted by Steve on June 24, 2000 at 11:15:49:

In Reply to: Here's the text posted by Fischer on June 23, 2000 at 08:14:29:

Well said. An excellent letter that, unfortunately, legislators will probably completely overlook in their quest for political grandstanding.

Usually the mainstream media paints firearms owners in the camo-clad Billy-Bob Jethro mold as a bunch of wild eyed zealots. The Sun has been stressing the fact that gun control won't stop criminals for years now. We can only hope that the message will somehow get through one day.

Again - well done.

Re: New Bow from Excalibur

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Posted by dogger on June 23, 2000 at 22:46:06:

In Reply to: Re: New Bow from Excalibur posted by Kern on June 23, 2000 at 14:28:35:

Ive taken alot of deer with my exocet and I am happy with it. no bells and wistles etc. just a simple yet allways depedable xbow worth every cent!

Biggest deer seen by posters last year?

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Posted by glenn on June 23, 2000 at 22:12:31:

I'm curious as to what the biggest deer each of the posters on this board has seen in the past year. Personally the largest deer I saw in the past year was a hefty 8 point in late December that would likely score near the Pope and Young minimum (WMU 59 near Arnprior). I've seen the same deer again this year and hope to spot him with bow in hand come October.

Re: T.O gun is out of business & Challenger Shells !

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Posted by Dave on June 23, 2000 at 22:00:47:

In Reply to: Toronto gun is out of business! posted by Braden on June 22, 2000 at 23:15:16:

With T.O Gun gone out of business, does anyone know who carries Challenger shotgun shells in the GTA ??

Re: New Bow from Excalibur

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Posted by Kern on June 23, 2000 at 14:28:35:

In Reply to: Re: New Bow from Excalibur posted by bowhunter on June 23, 2000 at 09:49:31:

Thanks bowhunter, I finally got through alot of the posts on the Excalibur site and read Bills post concerning the Paradox. I think I will stay with the Exomag.

Re: New Bow from Excalibur

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Posted by bowhunter on June 23, 2000 at 09:49:31:

In Reply to: Re: New Bow from Excalibur posted by TDC on June 22, 2000 at 14:00:11:

The question was already asked on the Excalibur website. Bill's response was the compound limb was an attempt to crack the U.S. market. Seems that many American crossbowers find it impossible to believe that a recurve limb could perform as well as compound limb. My opinion is simpler is still better. I can change a string on my Excalibur in less than 5 min. and the 275 ft/sec has always given me lots of power for complete pass through shots and even to crack bone. I'd stick with the Exomag or Exocet.

Re: Judging potential antler growth?

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Posted by bowhunter on June 23, 2000 at 09:41:19:

In Reply to: Judging potential antler growth? posted by glenn on June 21, 2000 at 23:05:18:

While turkey hunting I encountered the same buck several times. Even at the end of April he already had 8 inces of growth topped by a knuckle that I presume is where the antler was about to branch. The buck did not appear to be huge in body size. I am guessing maybe about a 3 year old. I do think he had a lot of antler development for that early in the season. I expect maybe an easy winter and early spring will combine to produce some good racks this year.

Here's the text

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Posted by Fischer on June 23, 2000 at 08:14:29:

In Reply to: I'm the TO Sun Letter of the Day! posted by Fischer on June 23, 2000 at 08:05:47:

Forgot that it changes every day

RE THE Gillian Hadley murder-suicide: How unfortunate that the first reaction of politicians like Jack Layton to this tragedy is to call for more gun control. Anyone who takes a clear look at this incident can see that gun control did not protect Gillian Hadley.

A few years ago, the best friend of a co-worker was killed by her estranged husband, who then killed himself. He stabbed her to death, then asphyxiated himself with his car. Like Hadley, he had been under restraining orders, and was charged with assault and threatening prior to the murder/suicide.

Yet it hardly made the news outside the city where it happened. There was no outcry from the Jack Laytons of the world, calling for more knife control, or criminal record checks for vehicle owners. Maybe, because the killer didn't use a gun, there was no benefit to politicians of that ilk.

There is talk of an inquest into this tragedy. I, for one, welcome it. I hope that the inquest will focus on why gun control didn't save Gillian Hadley. Focus on why, with handgun registration being mandatory for over 60 years, Ralph Hadley was able to get one - illegally. Of course, the answers to these questions are simple, because criminals don't register their guns.

The toughest question that the inquest should be asked is, why do our elected officials continue to focus on the methods, the tools, rather than the reasons behind the violence in the first place? Shot, stabbed, strangled, beaten or poisoned, Gillian Hadley and others like her are still just as dead. Let's focus on why it happened, how it happened, instead of the device used to accomplish it.

Martin Fischer

Kitchener

(Yes, let's take the focus off guns and gun control, which - no matter what your views on that - is NOT what this tragedy is about)

I'm the TO Sun Letter of the Day!

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Posted by Fischer on June 23, 2000 at 08:05:47:

http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoSun/editorial.html

Toronto gun is out of business!

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Posted by Braden on June 22, 2000 at 23:15:16:

In Reply to: Re: reloading suppliers in southern ontario posted by Dave on June 22, 2000 at 12:16:17:

Passed by a few months ago, the place was emptied out without so much as a note on the door.

Re: Fireing ranges

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Posted by besi john on June 22, 2000 at 21:39:49:

In Reply to: Re: Fireing ranges posted by Toothless Grin on November 28, 1999 at 10:02:33:

Re: Looking for Deer Hunters

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Posted by Glenn Black on June 22, 2000 at 21:34:29:

In Reply to: Re: Looking for Deer Hunters posted by DEER SLAYER on June 16, 2000 at 06:06:43:

website located at http://members.home.net/blacksbay

or email me at blacksbay@home.com

Re: Deer hunt? (Live in Toronto)

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Posted by Glenn Black on June 22, 2000 at 21:24:51:

In Reply to: Deer hunt? (Live in Toronto) posted by Leon on June 21, 2000 at 11:25:19:

I'm forming a group for deer hunting on Manitoulin Island this fall. Wildlife Management Unit 43B on the West end of the island has the second biggest population of deer taken each year for all of Ontario. If you or anybody else is interested, visit my site for more personal information.

http://members.home.net/blacksbay

Glenn Black

Re: Judging potential antler growth?

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Posted by roho on June 22, 2000 at 17:53:52:

In Reply to: Judging potential antler growth? posted by glenn on June 21, 2000 at 23:05:18:

hard to say this early check his hoof size this will help to tell you if is truley a mature buck

Re: New Bow from Excalibur

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Posted by roho on June 22, 2000 at 17:47:29:

In Reply to: New Bow from Excalibur posted by Kern on June 21, 2000 at 22:34:47:

KERN both comments above are very valid the people at excalibur are honest and straightforward but remember they are in business and if you don;t market new products your will stagnate +die MY opinion is keep it simple at 275ft/sec i have never had a deer come close to jumping the string on my exocet and isn,t that the point roho

speed what do they base it on 5grains per pound

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Posted by jason whyte (chessy on June 22, 2000 at 17:07:42:

In Reply to: New Bow from Excalibur posted by Kern on June 21, 2000 at 22:34:47:

speed for hunting does not = energy they play with the numbers you need a bow that you are comfortable with and one that fits you nice there are alot of options to choose from stay with what is comfortable as long as you can shoot it who else cares

Re: Remington 1100 deer gun

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Posted by Shotgunner on June 22, 2000 at 15:29:14:

In Reply to: Remington 1100 deer gun posted by Nimrod on June 22, 2000 at 15:09:42:

I'm not too sure about the second question, but if you buy the sling studs all you have to do is drill a hole into the stock the same size as the swivel stud, and then just screw in the stud. But i'm sure that you could get the store where you bought the studs to do it for you.

Remington 1100 deer gun

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Posted by Nimrod on June 22, 2000 at 15:09:42:

Just purchased a Remington 1100 Synthetic Fully-Rifled Cantilever 12 gauge. Mounted a Tasco Red Dot scope on it. Two questions: 1. there is no sling swivel stud in the butt stock. How easy are these to install? Can I do it myself? 2. is there some material that I can lay into the forearm to make it fight tighter (quieter!) to the magazine/barrel?

Re: reloading suppliers in southern ontario

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Posted by Fischer on June 22, 2000 at 14:29:28:

In Reply to: reloading suppliers in southern ontario posted by jason whyte on June 21, 2000 at 15:06:01:

Goble's in London carries a lot, if you're over that way.

Re: New Bow from Excalibur

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Posted by TDC on June 22, 2000 at 14:00:11:

In Reply to: New Bow from Excalibur posted by Kern on June 21, 2000 at 22:34:47:

Kern,maybe try posing the question directly on the Excalibur discussion board.....Bill Troubridge who is the president of Excalibur frequently answers questions like this on that board. I met him once at the Canadian Bowhunter's Clinic in Kitchener and he seemed like a real nice guy who didn't mind taking time to answer questions....just a thought and he will surely have first hand knowledge.....here is the link.......http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/hunt2_frm.htm........hope this helps .....TDC

Re: reloading suppliers in southern ontario

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Posted by Dave on June 22, 2000 at 12:16:17:

In Reply to: reloading suppliers in southern ontario posted by jason whyte on June 21, 2000 at 15:06:01:

Try Toronto Gun on the Queensway

Re: TURKEY HUNTING

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Posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on June 22, 2000 at 06:02:52:

In Reply to: Re: TURKEY HUNTING posted by bowhunter on June 20, 2000 at 10:51:26:

Goll darn...guess i'll have to buy one for Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the come back!!!!!!!!!!

Re: TURKEY HUNTING

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Posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on June 22, 2000 at 06:02:29:

In Reply to: Re: TURKEY HUNTING posted by bowhunter on June 20, 2000 at 10:51:26:

Goll darn...guess i'll have to buy one for Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!!

PETA SUX

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Posted by Hitman4Christ on June 22, 2000 at 02:52:25:

In Reply to: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today... posted by Dan on October 20, 1999 at 17:08:27:

PETA SUX......."Fur is Dead" so what else are we supposed to do with it? throw it away? heck no it looks better as a coat........PETA would throw themselves in front of a truck to save a stupid little animal when its just gonna die in a few months anywayz

Judging potential antler growth?

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Posted by glenn on June 21, 2000 at 23:05:18:

I have been scouting a large buck nearby my home for the past two weeks. It is making regular visits to cropfields in the area and I have been able to get several excellent looks at it. I am wondering if the potential size of the rack can be judged by the amount of growth that has occurred all ready. The buck already has several inches of antler, well past its ears.

New Bow from Excalibur

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Posted by Kern on June 21, 2000 at 22:34:47:

I was all set to go get my new exomag when the sales guy asked me if I seen the new Excalibur...the Paradox. Its a split limb compound cross bow. Its suppose to spit out shafts at 330+ fps. After reading all the hype about "not needing wheels to fly" I find it strange that they come out with a compound. Jennings was involved with the design of the bow, or at least the limbs. The rest of the bow is all Excalibur in looks and feel. Jennings also has the bow in their line up under the name Buckmaster Max Point. Now Im not sure which one to get. The paradox's shorter limbs makes it easier to carry through the bush, but the Exomag looks alot easier to restring should you ever have to do one in the bush. Any thoughts???

Thanks

Re: reloading suppliers in southern ontario

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Posted by Rick Teal on June 21, 2000 at 21:31:52:

In Reply to: reloading suppliers in southern ontario posted by jason whyte on June 21, 2000 at 15:06:01:

Steve Redgewell's page at 303british.com has a list of Ontario gun shops. It might be a good place to start.

They moved it.

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Posted by Kevin on June 21, 2000 at 20:54:30:

In Reply to: Toronto Sun Column posted by Fischer on June 20, 2000 at 08:57:07:

Guns

Re: Deer hunt? (Live in Toronto)

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Posted by Tackleberry on June 21, 2000 at 16:51:23:

In Reply to: Deer hunt? (Live in Toronto) posted by Leon on June 21, 2000 at 11:25:19:

Hi Leon, where did you come in from??

Here in "southern ontario" there is a very nice variety of terrain. The northern portion of "southern ontario" even has some northern charactoristicts. (the Canadian Shield with little lakes)

Crown land down here is not very numerous, but there are small. Thus yes it can be dangerous. Be sure you pickup the Ontario Hunting Regulations and see the areas that have those shotgun only. You will have to apply to the specific area you wish to get a tag.

I must say, it will be pretty tough to get out your first year unless of course you hook in with an established group.

Good Luck and welcome, Tack

Re: Scope for .303 British

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Posted by Tackleberry on June 21, 2000 at 16:36:03:

In Reply to: Scope for .303 British posted by RRC on June 21, 2000 at 08:27:22:

I'd definately go with the variable. that round gives you a good distance to reachout and touch someone. Thus with the variable, you are given a variable of distances to employ the rifle.

Tack

reloading suppliers in southern ontario

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Posted by jason whyte on June 21, 2000 at 15:06:01:

could any one please help with reloading supplies in shouthern ontario gagnons labarons no longer carry reloading supplies for steel shot

Deer hunt? (Live in Toronto)

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Posted by Leon on June 21, 2000 at 11:25:19:

Hi all,

I recently moved to Toronto and I am looking for a place to hunt deer. I don't mind to drive a few hours. I really don't like crowded places, I also think they're dangerous.

Also, should I apply to contriolled deer tag (shotgun mostly) or general antlerless deer tag?

What is a typical hunting conditions? Shooting distances? How do you hunt?

I understand I ask very general questions here ;-) Hope you don't mind to share some knowledge of yours.

Thanks, Leon

Scope for .303 British

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Posted by RRC on June 21, 2000 at 08:27:22:

What power scope would you suggest for a Lee Enfield .303 Britsh...4X, 2-7X or 3-9x

Re: Toronto Sun Column

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Posted by Kevin on June 20, 2000 at 23:16:31:

In Reply to: Toronto Sun Column posted by Fischer on June 20, 2000 at 08:57:07:

That is a good article, there`s still a few good papers reporting the truth.
I just added the Toronto Sun to my political page. Thanks.

Re: Looking for Deer Hunters

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Posted by Kern on June 20, 2000 at 22:25:23:

In Reply to: Looking for Deer Hunters posted by Glenn Black on June 09, 2000 at 23:13:05:

Im game...send me info.

thx

Re: hunting quiver

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Posted by jeff white on June 20, 2000 at 21:07:33:

In Reply to: hunting quiver posted by Moosee on June 16, 2000 at 13:17:13:

http://pse-archery.com/catalog/king/quivers.htm try this website

Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope

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Posted by TDC on June 20, 2000 at 12:55:40:

In Reply to: Excalibur Drop Zone scope posted by Kern on June 19, 2000 at 10:29:58:

I have a Drop Zone on my Exocet and the range feature seems to work OK out to about 30 yards where it will hold 3 arrows in about a 4-6 inch circle most of the time. I agree with the others and would not take a shot over 30 yards and if I ever did take a 30 yard shot it would have to be at a stationary animal with a clear broadside shot.Overall I like the scope for its light gathering ability more than the rangefinding feature ( I have a Bushnell Yardage Pro anyway),but I killed a few deer with just the pin sights on this bow and didn't feel handicapped in the least before I got the scope. Trajectory would be slightly improved with the Exomag as the Exocet runs only around 275 fps....the Exomag was not available when I bought my bow a few years ago......TDC

Re: TURKEY HUNTING

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Posted by bowhunter on June 20, 2000 at 10:51:26:

In Reply to: TURKEY HUNTING posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on June 20, 2000 at 06:08:03:

Not in Ontario. Some U.S states, I believe do have fall seasons. Methods to hunt them in the fall are quite different. I believe they usually try to locate large flocks. They then chase them away, set up and wait for them to return. Not sure how successful they are.

Toronto Sun Column

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Posted by Fischer on June 20, 2000 at 08:57:07:

You can always count on Peter Worthington to tell it like it is.

http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoSun/columnist.html

TURKEY HUNTING

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Posted by DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER on June 20, 2000 at 06:08:03:

Is there such a thing as a fall turkey hunt????? Thanks in advance for your responses............DUMB A$$ REDNECK HUNTER

Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope

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Posted by dogger on June 19, 2000 at 22:47:18:

In Reply to: Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope posted by Steve on June 19, 2000 at 20:37:00:

i have an exocet with a 1.5 x 5 leopold , this has never let me down . 30 yards is my max! just a personal thing. last six deer 15 yards and less 2117 with wasp 130 gr. and browning 125gr the deer walk and drop!

Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope

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Posted by Steve on June 19, 2000 at 20:37:00:

In Reply to: Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope posted by roho on June 19, 2000 at 19:26:07:

Good comment Roho. A lot of hunters think crossbows are good for 50, 60 or 70 yards but you hit the nail right on the head. Sure, they're fast off the shelf but the bolts are so light that velocity and energy fades very quickly. Same with the overdraw compound bows. They shoot short, light arrows at high speed but the speed falls off fairly quickly.

I shoot a 62 pound compound with 33 inch 2219 arrows. I've had it checked on a chronograph at around 200 fps, but it holds it's energy very well. Even at that, I start to spray 'em after 30 yards so that's my max as well. 20 yds is better and the last two deer I got were under 15. Good hunting.

Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope

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Posted by roho on June 19, 2000 at 19:26:07:

In Reply to: Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope posted by jason whyte (chessy) on June 19, 2000 at 10:49:37:

I have owned an excalibur for 5 years and can,t say enough good things about them,as far as drop zone scopes i don,t care for them, too cluttered in low light,set my plain scope at 20yds and compensate by eye, but know your yds before you have to shoot.As far as effective range you lose alot of energy after 30, i set that as my personal max. GOOD HUNTING ROHO

Re: Bears in the Sault again.

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Posted by Kevin on June 19, 2000 at 14:35:06:

In Reply to: Re: Bears in the Sault again. posted by Kevin on June 18, 2000 at 15:59:06:

Just had a black bear at Goulais River run across the road in front of me and into the dump.
They must be getting hungry.

Re: RUGER .44 CARBINE

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Posted by CHAD WOOD on June 19, 2000 at 11:01:14:

In Reply to: Re: RUGER .44 CARBINE posted by ron on June 17, 2000 at 12:06:24:

CAN YOU SEND A PICTURE OF THE GUN?

Re: Excalibur Drop Zone scope

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Posted by jason whyte (chessy) on June 19, 2000 at 10:49:37:

In Reply to: Excalibur Drop Zone scope posted by Kern on June 19, 2000 at 10:29:58:

exellent a buddy has one and man you cant miss with it as long as you know the yardage your animal is at buy one gerrenteed you will fall in love with it

Excalibur Drop Zone scope

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Posted by Kern on June 19, 2000 at 10:29:58:

The Excalibur drop zone scope...anyone try it?? Will be getting a crossbow real soon and this scope has some nice features for leading game and range compansation. BTW What would be the effective range of a bow like the Exomag - 185 Lbs draw - 300fps arrow velocity??

Re: Hunting with hounds not so bad

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Posted by Don on June 18, 2000 at 21:57:23:

In Reply to: Re: Hunting with hounds not so bad posted by Douglas on September 22, 1999 at 21:00:59:

Hunting w/hounds has been a part of my family's deer hunting heritage for at least three gen-erations. Recently the Arkansas Game/Fish Com-mission banned the use of deer hounds in the north/parts of eastern Arkansas.Am sad to say; that opposition to deer hunting w/hounds,has been building momentum for a long time and the many including myself who long to hear the sound of a good pack of hounds;have failed to voice any oppositon to this.I would have pretty good argue- ment against those who say that deer hunting with hounds actually harms the deer population. I do concede that some slob houndmen may cause prob-lems by trespassing or vandalism; but these in-cidents when compared with the number of similar incidents caused by other types of Deer hunters; would be small. It seems we are on the brink of losing an ancient tradition. Honestly when compared to my better deer hunting success when not using hounds,it would seem that I would want to get rid of them too; but such is not the case. There are some hunting traditions such as deer hunting w/hounds, that are worth protecting for the simple reason that these are in fact traditions passed to us by our ancestors. Such traditions need to be kept alive and honored. There is strength in numbers; so lets let our voices be heard like those of of a good pack of hounds on a cold crisp morning. Comments? dkc@microsoft.com

Re: FOR SALE

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Posted by Peter Cook on June 18, 2000 at 21:42:16:

In Reply to: FOR SALE posted by GEORGE on September 23, 1999 at 13:34:01:

Hi George Did you ever sell the 835 Mosberg? Peter Cook

Re: Banana clips

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Posted by Braden on June 18, 2000 at 20:56:16:

In Reply to: Banana clips posted by Shotgunner on June 16, 2000 at 13:13:33:

Yes they are legal. The restriction of 5 rounds or less in the magazine is for CENTERFIRE auto loaders only! You are well within the law if using a HI-CAP rimfire mag. Hunt away!

Re: Bears in the Sault again.

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Posted by Kevin on June 18, 2000 at 15:59:06:

In Reply to: Re: Bears in the Sault again. posted by Dan on June 18, 2000 at 13:39:26:

Send Harris this skunk and tell him his ban on the spring bear hunt stinks!
Right click on the skunk to copy the image and then left click, paste and send it.

Mike

Re: Bears in the Sault again.

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Posted by Dan on June 18, 2000 at 13:39:26:

In Reply to: Bears in the Sault again. posted by Kevin on June 17, 2000 at 21:44:59:

I also saw a bear yesterday on the outskirts of Thunder Bay. It was absolutely huge!!! Just a matter of time before it finds its way into town to feed and will probably end up getting shot. I only hope it is taken care of before some youngster ends up face to face with it.

GOOSE CALLS

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Posted by MICHIGANDER88 on June 18, 2000 at 13:17:28:

AWESOME GOOSE CALL ON THE MARKET AT SVOBODAOUTDOORS.COM

Politically correct

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Posted by Kevin on June 18, 2000 at 01:34:08:

Ontario Hunters

Bears in the Sault again.

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Posted by Kevin on June 17, 2000 at 21:44:59:

Two black bears spotted in the Sault on Friday, one in a school yard.Police were called and both bears escaped before they could be shot. Just a matter of time .

Re: RUGER .44 CARBINE

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Posted by ron on June 17, 2000 at 12:06:24:

In Reply to: RUGER .44 CARBINE posted by DEER SLAYER on December 06, 1999 at 09:53:22:

i have a ruger .44 carbine. the barrel was painted black when i received it and stock was dropped and crackedbut it is fixed. i took all of the paint off the barrel down to the metal. it is ready to be hot blued. i sanded the stock down and re-painted it a dark brown. it does not look bad. i have fired it and it does not jam at all. there's no rust on it at all it has stayed oiled. i live in Jonesboro,AR. and i will take $250.00 for it.

Re: Darn diveing ducks

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Posted by MICHAEL on June 17, 2000 at 06:52:47:

In Reply to: Darn diveing ducks posted by Hunt Whiped on November 02, 1999 at 04:45:54:

Re: Coalition For Gun Control

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Posted by phil on June 16, 2000 at 20:10:36:

In Reply to: Re: Coalition For Gun Control posted by bowhunter on June 16, 2000 at 15:20:27:

On the subject of gun control there is a movie coming out about what happened when the government tried gun control in the US the first time, its called "the patriot" and its about the american revolutionary in the US

Re: crossbow wanted

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Posted by joe on June 16, 2000 at 18:35:17:

In Reply to: crossbow wanted posted by bigbow on December 16, 1999 at 06:54:02:

I need cheap and reliable crossbow. I alsoneed to know how can it be shiped to Malaysia

Re: Coalition For Gun Control

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Posted by bowhunter on June 16, 2000 at 15:20:27:

In Reply to: Re: Coalition For Gun Control posted by Tackleberry on June 15, 2000 at 20:37:56:

My comment to her was polite yet direct. I let her know that I had no use for gun control measures currently being pursued by the federal government, because I thought it was tremendous waste of resources, which, could be be better rienforcing law enforcement agencies to allow better enforcement of current laws. Though I may be a redneck, I don't think I came off sounding like one. I understand your comment, though, we don't need to play into thier hands.

hunting quiver

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Posted by Moosee on June 16, 2000 at 13:17:13:

I need help! Can someone help, I'am new to bow hunting and found a quiver mounted on the bow to heavy, is there a quiver made for broad heads, and where can you get one.

Banana clips

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Posted by Shotgunner on June 16, 2000 at 13:13:33:

I have a 25 round butler creek magazine for me Ruger 10/22, i was wondering if they are legal? I bought it at a hunting store, but now that i think about it i don't know if their legal. If they are can I hunt with it???? Thanks for your input!

Re: new deal on possession only licence

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Posted by Chuck on June 16, 2000 at 09:10:03:

In Reply to: new deal on possession only licence posted by Alain on June 16, 2000 at 06:58:49:

I agree, big deal. the only thing that is forcing people is the fact that you will be a criminal if you don't apply

new deal on possession only licence

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Posted by Alain on June 16, 2000 at 06:58:49:

Did you hear about he new deal on gun registry " if you apply before October 15 you $ave 35.00. wooptidu.... also reducing application to make it a one page licence application form to simplify. What do you all think of that ??? Do you think it will make more people jump for it?

Re: Looking for Deer Hunters

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Posted by DEER SLAYER on June 16, 2000 at 06:06:43:

In Reply to: Looking for Deer Hunters posted by Glenn Black on June 09, 2000 at 23:13:05:

Why don't you give more info or a web site that show pics of the camp as well as costs etc!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Coalition For Gun Control

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Posted by Tackleberry on June 15, 2000 at 20:37:56:

In Reply to: Coalition For Gun Control posted by bowhunter on June 15, 2000 at 13:02:00:

I understand your frustration...... unfortunately though, you became the "a$$hole". She will hangup, comment to the person beside her that if all gun owners are like that I sure hope they take them away.

Perhaps ask them to send all the literature they have. Maybe offer to help, ask the critera. See what happens.

I have always wondered what it would be like to be the wolf in sheeps clothing. :)

In reality I can't beleive that they want to change everything but with somebody elses money.

Stay Safe, Tack

Re: Sumpreme Court Ruling

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Posted by Kevin on June 15, 2000 at 20:34:55:

In Reply to: Sumpreme Court Ruling posted by stephen on June 15, 2000 at 12:28:33:

Don`t forget ...there`s another federal election coming up.

wmu 29 moose

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Posted by jeff white on June 15, 2000 at 17:57:14:

going to hunt wmu 29 near ferris lake with the bows this fall. would appreciate any info any has about this area. accessibility, moose sign and fishing since will be doing that during the day

Alaska Hunt / Cabin .... 20 shares available

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Posted by Rex on June 15, 2000 at 16:08:19:

Alaska recreation property. A first class facility with excellent hunting opportunities. Fully outfitted with equipment and gear. 20 shares available, each for less than the price of one quality hunt. Get the complete details at: http://www.alaskaopportunities.com/users/rblantz/shares/shares.htm [img]http://www.alaskaopportunities.com/images/MOOSE.JPG[/img]

Antlerless tag info

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Posted by Andy on June 15, 2000 at 15:43:40:

If you're applying for a doe tag this year, check the following link: http://www.zoo.utoronto.ca/FUN/deer.htm.

Including the part about the jackbooters?? ;)

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Posted by Fischer on June 15, 2000 at 15:15:41:

In Reply to: Re: Sumpreme Court Ruling posted by bowhunter on June 15, 2000 at 15:04:40:

No msg.

Re: Sumpreme Court Ruling

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Posted by bowhunter on June 15, 2000 at 15:04:40:

In Reply to: Re: Sumpreme Court Ruling posted by Fischer on June 15, 2000 at 14:03:44:

Right you are, Fischer. I just phoned the CFC, and they told me exactly what you said.

Re: Sumpreme Court Ruling

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Posted by Fischer on June 15, 2000 at 14:03:44:

In Reply to: Re: Sumpreme Court Ruling posted by bowhunter on June 15, 2000 at 13:06:21:

I think the drop in fees they are proposing will only apply to the possession licence. It went from $10 to $45 last December. You can only get it once, by the end of this year, and in 5 years, you'll have to have a PAL.

If they drop the fees on the PAL, I'll damn well be demanding a refund!!

Personally, I think the intent of the possession licence is simply to get everyone who HAS a gun to register themselves. Then, if the registration of the firearms themselves doesn't materialize properly by 2003, they'll just have everyone's name, to they can send the jackbooters in. Cynical? Sure, but this decision today just upped the ante.

Re: Sumpreme Court Ruling

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Posted by bowhunter on June 15, 2000 at 13:06:21:

In Reply to: Sumpreme Court Ruling posted by stephen on June 15, 2000 at 12:28:33:

Just took my PAL exam last night. Guess I should wait to see if the fees drop before for I send in my application and my $60.

Coalition For Gun Control

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Posted by bowhunter on June 15, 2000 at 13:02:00:

Got a phone call from the Coalition For Gun Control, looking for a hand out. Boy did they call the wrong house. The girl on the other end got an ear full of my opinion of gun control.

Sumpreme Court Ruling

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Posted by stephen on June 15, 2000 at 12:28:33:

Canada's highest court has upheld the federal gun control law.

Alberta was challenging the law. It requires licensing and registering of all firearms. Alberta says that steps on provincial authority over property as set out in the Constitution.

Five other provinces and two territories supported Alberta's challenge to Bill C-68. They say the law is unworkable. Saskatchewan Premier Roy Romanow, who backs Alberta's challenge, says he's also concerned about the cost and red tape that comes with implementing the law.

The gun registry that has been set up to keep track of the seven million guns in the country is expected to cost about $125 million in the first five years. Only 1.6 million guns are registered in this country.

Justice Minister Anne McLellan is expected to make changes to the law to make it easier for gun owners to register. She will cut the $45 license fee to $10 and she will streamline the registration form to one page.

Bill C-68 has provoked much disagreement and defiance from hunters and gun owners. Some fear the law may lead to confiscation of their guns. Others are angered by high licensing fees and slow paperwork.

Dave Hancock, Alberta's justice minister, says the court ruling won't change his government's stand.

"We don't have to participate in it," Hancock says. "We are not participating in it. They can carry it out without our agreement."

Re: Paint-ball guns restricted/prohibited?

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Posted by Kern@idirect.com on June 15, 2000 at 08:09:53:

In Reply to: Paint-ball guns restricted/prohibited? posted by Fischer on June 14, 2000 at 13:53:58:

I suspect they may have to amend the law to consider these guns that shoot projectiles not likely to kill someone even at 550+ fps. Mind you Ive never heard of one of those guns running at 6000 psi! Thats got to do some damage on unprotected skin. If they do include them as regular fire arms It may spell the end to the sport. Who's is going to go through all the fuss to register a restricted possibly prohibited weapon to play paint ball?? Not to mention the storage and transportation guidlines you would have to follow as well. What may happen is the high performance paint guns will be illegal in Canada!! Im sure we will all feel safer at night knowing that criminals wont have easy access to these weapons :) Shouldnt be long before we have to register the super soakers!!

Re: Paint-ball guns restricted/prohibited?

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Posted by Shotgunner on June 14, 2000 at 18:24:54:

In Reply to: Paint-ball guns restricted/prohibited? posted by Fischer on June 14, 2000 at 13:53:58:

I am a paintball player, I love it! It's like hunting but only your being hunted too! Anyways i don't know what class they fall under but i can tell you they are capable of firingup to 15 balls a second, FULL AUTO! They also can fire 3 shot bursts, a gun that can fire full and 3 shot burst will cost nearly $2000 but you can still buy them. Using a nitrogen tank instead of CO2, they could reach speeds of over 500fps. You can buy any size barrel for any paintball gun out there, you can even fire them without a barrel, but i wouldn't worry about 500fps with no barrel.

Re: Paint-ball guns restricted/prohibited?

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Posted by Kevin on June 14, 2000 at 17:43:47:

In Reply to: Paint-ball guns restricted/prohibited? posted by Fischer on June 14, 2000 at 13:53:58:

You can try asking here CFC

Paint-ball guns restricted/prohibited?

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Posted by Fischer on June 14, 2000 at 13:53:58:

Was having a conversation with a buddy who is into the paint-ball gun scene (I am not). He wanted to know whether the new generation of paint-ball guns, which shoot 550 fps, would fall under the Firearms Act.

I asked the other day while at a gun shop, and was told that they likely would (anything that shoots a projectile over 500 fps, is covered, as in some pellet rifles). On top of that, IMHO, the compact size and barrel length of many of the paint-ball guns would render them restricted firearms. Some of these are virtually full-auto, which would then bring them into the prohibited weapons category (I'm told).

The guy at the gunshop didn't believe that there were any paint-ball guns being made that could produce that velocity. However, my buddy says that they are compressed air guns, using 6000 psi to fire a 68 cal. paint ball - OUCH! CO2 can't do this, because at that pressure, the CO2 just stays liquid and would freeze the ball, causing it to shatter as it left the barrel.

Just wonder what you all think of this, and whether the feds had considered any of this when they dreamed this scheme up???

Re: lake erie duck hunting

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Posted by Johnny Sharrer on June 14, 2000 at 12:59:54:

In Reply to: lake erie duck hunting posted by jrainbow on October 24, 1999 at 22:09:49:

Hi fellow duck hunters...

I would like to do some duck hunting this coming 2000 hunting season up in the Erie, PA. area. I hear that they have blinds one can sign up for. Who dose one contact for sign up information..? Are there any private blinds that one can rent for a couple days in the Erie Area..? Is there any Public lands where one can go to hunt. I do not want to go anywhere that is packed with Sky Busters and I am willing to pay for the privledge..!

Thanks for any help..! Johnny Sharrer

British Hunt Inquiry Report

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Posted by Fischer on June 14, 2000 at 08:42:27:

The final report of the recent inquiry into hunting with hounds was filed on Sunday. You can read the whole report here: http://www.huntinginquiry.gov.uk/mainsections/report.pdf

It does take a while to load.

I haven't had a chance to read it all, but from what I know of the report, it essentially says that hunting with hounds is no better or worse than shooting, trapping, poisoning, drowning or any other methods of vermin control, and recognises that, at this point in time, vermin control is a necessary part of wildlife management.

In short, the report has basically taken a major AR propaganda effort and flattened is thinner than a superhighway squirrel.

Oh Dear, what will the anti's do now?? :)

It'll be interesting to see if Tony Blair has the guts to implement a ban on hunting despite his own inquiry, in the interest of cheap political opportunism.

Re: Gun Shows

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Posted by Hitman on June 13, 2000 at 04:18:23:

In Reply to: Gun Shows posted by Dave on June 11, 2000 at 22:38:21:

there is usually one in Belleville at the fish and game club around the 1st of September.

Hitman

Re: PHEASANT HUNTING

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Posted by wayne on June 12, 2000 at 21:22:50:

In Reply to: PHEASANT HUNTING posted by wtrfwlr_2000 on March 24, 2000 at 21:48:12:

The Pine Grove Pheasant farm in Castleton is a great place to hunt. They have 400 acres,of fields and wooded areas. You can contact Doug or Darren at (905)344-7003 or (905)344-7434. So far this year they have grown to having almost 2000 birds. They can have hunts from just 1 person to over 30 hunters.

Re: Devastator Crossbows??

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Posted by Nimrod on June 12, 2000 at 17:57:52:

In Reply to: Devastator Crossbows?? posted by West on June 08, 2000 at 09:30:23:

If you mean the Devastator by Bear/Jennings, I used to have one but sold it and bought an Excalibur. There wasn't anything wrong with it, but I found it to be a bit heavy and awkward. I never got great accuracy from it, but my arrows may not have been tuned the best.

Re: Firearms Appraisal

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Posted by Badge on June 12, 2000 at 09:41:19:

In Reply to: Re: Firearms Appraisal posted by Hitman on May 15, 2000 at 10:30:00:

I have about 15 guns for sale. Long and short. I don't have a current values book and am uncertain of their present value. Can you provide some info on where I might find information on current values and where I might sell them privately. I knpw dealers would skin me.

Badge

Gun Shows

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Posted by Dave on June 11, 2000 at 22:38:21:

Does anybody know if there are any gun shows coming up this summer within a few hours of Kingston? Thanks

Re: GPS Help

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Posted by jeff white on June 11, 2000 at 16:46:46:

In Reply to: Re: GPS Help posted by Chuck on June 09, 2000 at 13:42:54:

thanks for all the input. i will inform by buddy of the results thanks again

Re: Garmin Software

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Posted by phil on June 10, 2000 at 21:20:10:

In Reply to: Garmin Software posted by Eric on June 10, 2000 at 12:02:48:

The Garmin maps DO show elevations and contours. I looked at their site and, unfortunatly, they do not seem to have the maps of Canada. You may want to go to their site and look at the detail of the US maps just for the heck of it. They may have Canadian maps that I just didnt find.

Garmin Software

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Posted by Eric on June 10, 2000 at 12:02:48:

In Reply to: Re: GPS Help posted by phil on June 09, 2000 at 23:53:49:

Phil, it looks like you enjoy your Garmin as much as I do. I requested a software upgrade for my 12XL from Garmin; they were very helpful & it cost $0.00. I'm running Ver. 4.00, it has a built-in North American city database (Ver. 2.01), but no maps. The GPS maps I have seen so far are detailed (landmarks, water, roads etc.), but not detailed enough for hunting. I like to see all of the contours & elevations; they just don't show it. If you find one that does let me know.

If you're into Garmin stuff, look here...

http://www.GPStom.de/GPS/

Velocities higher/lower

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Posted by Kevin on June 10, 2000 at 10:29:10:

In Reply to: Re: Longer Barrel= smoother swing.. posted by Braden on June 09, 2000 at 18:19:12:

This is a message I got back from George Stringer, according to George the velocity decreases with tube length in shotguns ... I guess we`ll have to chronograph some loads.

>Kevin, you may get a tighter patern at 40 yds but that really depends on the dimensions of the bore. The velocity of the shot column will actually be less from the 30" bbl. George The Gun Doctor

Re: GPS Help

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Posted by DEER SLAYER on June 10, 2000 at 08:34:46:

In Reply to: GPS Help posted by jeff white on June 09, 2000 at 10:52:06:

Jeff I too have the Garmin GPS12XL & swera by it not at it as another fellow posted. I love it and don't leave home without it, fishing, hunting, hiking etc.!!!!!! You can't go wrong with Garmin and they stand by their product...........I originally bought a Garmin GPS12 when they first came out, 8 channel, & when the 12 channels came out, I email Garmin asking if there was an exchange program & they told me to mail my old unit to them in the States plus $50US and they sent me a brand new GPS12XL!!!!!!!!! How's that for customer service...........if you want anymore info go to their website (www.garmin.com) or email me...........good & safe hunting............DEER SLAYER aka: Mike

Re: Looking for Deer Hunters

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Posted by Dave on June 10, 2000 at 01:24:33:

In Reply to: Looking for Deer Hunters posted by Glenn Black on June 09, 2000 at 23:13:05:

I might be interested and I know some others as well. Would this be to buy the land and build a camp or what? What would the cost be initially?

Re: GPS Help

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Posted by phil on June 09, 2000 at 23:53:49:

In Reply to: Re: GPS Help posted by Eric on June 09, 2000 at 21:28:06:

I have a garmin 12 XL that I bought in 2 years ago also. I really like it. About a month ago they upped the accuracy on the GPS sattelites. To make a long story short, GPS used to be able to locate within about 100 ft, now it is more like 20 ft, quite an improvement. When I bought my Garmin two years ago, the GPS units with maps built in were not that good. The maps only showed the major highways and not much else. I recently checked out the Garmin web site to see what they had come up with in the last two years. They now have a model called the GPS12 MAP, which looks and works a lot like my GPS12XL, except it has a halfway decent map built in. It is only slightly more detailed than the maps of two years ago. Here is the big change - you can buy EXTREMELY detailed maps that showw all logging roads, marshes, rivers, creeks etc. to download into the GPS unit from Garmin. I am not familiar with how the Canadian government has set up its topographical maps, but here in the US (I live in northern Minnesota) we have what we call USGS topographical maps that the government sells. Garmin took these and put them on a disk that you can buy and download portions into your GPS12 MAP. They have navagation maps, aviation maps and all sorts of other maps you can buy. I am thinking about selling my GPS12 XL and getting a GPS 12 MAP. I would strongly suggest you go to the Garmin site www.garmin.com and check out the GPS12 MAP. They have a place on their site where you can see what kind of maps you can get to download into your GPS12 MAP and even let you preveiw them. It is really neat!

Looking for Deer Hunters

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Posted by Glenn Black on June 09, 2000 at 23:13:05:

I'm trying to start a hunting lodge on Manitoulin ISland (WMU 43B) and I'm looking for some hunters interested in a week of excellent white tail action. Property has 1400 sq. ft. lodge, 113 acres, a number of deer stands, etc. Do you know anybody who might be interested?

Re: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt

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Posted by Glenn on June 09, 2000 at 22:07:27:

In Reply to: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt posted by HARVIE on April 16, 2000 at 16:52:02:

I've got 113 acres on Manitoulin Island with rabbit grouse, Canadian geese, partridge, deer.

see my website http://members.home.net/blacksbay

Glenn

Re: Manitoulin Deer Hunt

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Posted by Glenn Black on June 09, 2000 at 21:43:43:

In Reply to: Re: Manitoulin Deer Hunt posted by Fischer on November 11, 1999 at 08:38:35:

I have a hunt camp on the Island and I'm looking for some deer hunters to enjoy it. Come see my sight @ http://members.home.net/blacksbay

Glenn

Re: GPS Help

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Posted by Eric on June 09, 2000 at 21:28:06:

In Reply to: GPS Help posted by jeff white on June 09, 2000 at 10:52:06:

Jeff,

I've owned a Garmin GPS 12XL for 2 years now & I swear by it, not at it ! Friends own similar Lowrance/Eagle units & there's no comparison. The Garmin is compact, easy to use & built tough.

The following sites contain some thorough reviews & a wealth of other info...

http://vancouver-webpages.com/pub/peter/ http://joe.mehaffey.com/

Good luck

Re: Longer Barrel= smoother swing..

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Posted by Braden on June 09, 2000 at 18:19:12:

In Reply to: Re: Barrel length advise needed posted by Kevin on June 08, 2000 at 14:56:36:

And thats about it, velocity diferrences are so marginal that they would never be noticeable. In a rifle it can be a whole different story though. You'll just need a little time to get used to a shorter barell, once you've adjusted your swing you should be able to hunt waterfowl quite nicely with a 24", or use the 30 if you prefer. If it where my cash I'd go 24".

Re: GPS Help

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Posted by Chuck on June 09, 2000 at 13:42:54:

In Reply to: GPS Help posted by jeff white on June 09, 2000 at 10:52:06:

There was a good article on GPS in either the last or the previous issue of Outdoor Life. Check their website it might be on there. (www.outdoorlife.com)

Re: Barrel length advise needed

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Posted by Chuck on June 09, 2000 at 13:39:17:

In Reply to: Re: Barrel length advise needed posted by Fischer on June 09, 2000 at 10:57:56:

I agree, yes the 30" barrel is a better sighting plane and the extra weight up front allows for better follow through on ducks etc. the 24" is probably the best.

Re: Barrel length advise needed

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Posted by RRC on June 09, 2000 at 11:37:27:

In Reply to: Barrel length advise needed posted by RRC on June 08, 2000 at 14:24:40:

Thanks for all the comments so far.

Re: Barrel length advise needed

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Posted by Fischer on June 09, 2000 at 10:57:56:

In Reply to: Re: Barrel length advise needed posted by Chuck on June 09, 2000 at 10:00:41:

I'm thinking it probably goes both ways. There has to be a reason for the 30" barrels, and up to 36" on some of the older shotguns. For one thing, the longer barrel is going to give you a little better sightline than a short barrel, so the longer shots you might make for ducks and geese are easier to sight. (I know, your pointing).

I'm not a trap or skeet shooter, but obviously there is some reason why skeet guns are shorter, with wider choke than trap guns.

If it was me in this situation, I'd opt for the 24" barrel. He's already got a 30" which can be used for ducks and geese, but the short barrel will allow for quicker swinging on rabbits and upland birds. At the range you are shooting them, the difference in velocity from the barrel length wouldn't make any difference.

GPS Help

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Posted by jeff white on June 09, 2000 at 10:52:06:

my buddy is looking to purchase a gps for our fall hunting trip and was looing for some input as to makes and models to consider

Re: Barrel length advise needed

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Posted by Alain on June 09, 2000 at 10:14:59:

In Reply to: Re: Barrel length advise needed posted by Chuck on June 09, 2000 at 10:00:41:

I agree with Chuck!!

Re: Barrel length advise needed

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Posted by Chuck on June 09, 2000 at 10:00:41:

In Reply to: Re: Barrel length advise needed posted by Kevin on June 08, 2000 at 14:56:36:

I was under the impression that the longer the barrel the greater the velocity had to due with the old black powder shells. Since the advent of smokeless powder barrel length not such an issue as the difference between a 24" and 30" is negligible. This was why you used to see some old guns with a 36" barrel.I beleive I read this in one of Jim Carmichael's. My apologies if this is incorrect.

Re: HATS FOR HIDES BIG GAME HUNTERS PLEASE READ

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Posted by mike on June 09, 2000 at 09:50:24:

In Reply to: HATS FOR HIDES BIG GAME HUNTERS PLEASE READ posted by jason whyte on June 08, 2000 at 20:34:44:

Jason,, For sure like Bob said we need help in that regards, Thanks Mike

Re: HATS FOR HIDES BIG GAME HUNTERS PLEASE READ

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Posted by Bob on June 09, 2000 at 06:57:03:

In Reply to: HATS FOR HIDES BIG GAME HUNTERS PLEASE READ posted by jason whyte on June 08, 2000 at 20:34:44:

I understand that the Ministry is particular about how you store the hides, and the hides you accept, I hope you will procceed. We need help in this area. THANKS

Yes, they do ...

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Posted by Kevin on June 08, 2000 at 21:32:32:

In Reply to: Re: does Hastings have a web site?? posted by Kern on June 08, 2000 at 21:05:34:

Hastings

Re: does Hastings have a web site??

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Posted by Kern on June 08, 2000 at 21:05:34:

In Reply to: Re: Barrel length advise needed posted by Kevin on June 08, 2000 at 14:56:36:

ntxt

HATS FOR HIDES BIG GAME HUNTERS PLEASE READ

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Posted by jason whyte on June 08, 2000 at 20:34:44:

i was asked to see if i would do hats for hides i am thinking it would be a good idea i am located in the port hope cobourg area just wonder if you guys would be intrested i knew some of you guys got burned for hats and crest in the past let me know what you all think

Here`s some info

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Posted by Kevin on June 08, 2000 at 19:07:19:

In Reply to: Barrel length advise needed posted by RRC on June 08, 2000 at 14:24:40:

Mossberg Barrels

Re: Bear on Scugog Island

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Posted by bowhunter on June 08, 2000 at 16:22:49:

In Reply to: Bear on Scugog Island posted by Steve on June 08, 2000 at 12:44:43:

Check this one out :

Bear sighting creates concern near Varty Lake Sue Yanagisawa

There are three bears in the woods at the north end of Varty Lake, but that's not the problem as far as Shane Day is concerned.

He says the problem is people in the area, roughly 40 kilometres northwest of Kingston, including visitors to a campground down the road, don't know the bears are there.

Day, who works at DuPont, has lived on a 30-acre piece of property fronting on Park Road for the past three years. He's seen many deer in the area. He's also seen what he believes are wolves in the fields behind his house.

But Day hadn't seen a bear in some time - until last Saturday, that is, when he encountered three of them.

He came upon a sow and two cubs about four months old in the pine woods at the bottom of about 15 acres of hay fields. The cubs were only about "a foot and a half long," he recalled and "about as big around as an ice cream pail."

Their mother looked thin, but Day estimated her weight at about 90 kilograms.

Day said he's gotten into the habit of moving quietly in hopes of coming upon deer and other animals on his walks. He was about 45 to 60 metres into the pines when he saw the bears.

"I looked up and here were these two little cubs coming at me," Day said.

The next thing he saw was mama bear coming up fast behind them, making a noise.

Day didn't wait around to see what would happen.

"I was on the other side of the cubs," he said. "She put the run on me, but she never came out.

"I ran and never looked back until the middle of the field. She didn't come out of the woods."

Day believes he may have seen bear signs last year. He recalls noticing boulders overturned and occasional bones among the pines. The area also has plenty of berries in season and apple trees and there's lots of good tree cover.

His next-door neighbour has a stand of hardwoods and the pines at the back of his own land are about 10 metres tall and stagger planted, providing good cover for wildlife. There's also marshland and a couple of dumps in the vicinity.

He wonders why the bears are there and whether they'll be a problem. He's already decided to make the hay fields off-limits to his children and his partner's children and he's warned his immediate neighbours.

One of his co-workers has a theory that the cancellation of the spring bear hunt has left too many boar bears alive and they're hunting the cubs to bring the sows back into heat, which the theory credits with driving the females south.

Day is skeptical, but he's run into others since his encounter who've told him about solitary bear sightings in the Enterprise area and near Verona.

"I'm not a hunter," Day said, but he is concerned that there may be more encounters between bears and people, particularly area children.

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Re: Devastator Crossbows??

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Posted by HARVIE on June 08, 2000 at 16:05:26:

In Reply to: Devastator Crossbows?? posted by West on June 08, 2000 at 09:30:23:

Jennings makes an excellent crossbow. I worked in an archery shop for a number of years and could not get over the accuracy of that crossbow. It is so accurate because the bolt is nocked directly to the string and it uses an arrow rest rather than a track. It is absolutely devastating.

Re: Barrel length advise needed

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Posted by Kevin on June 08, 2000 at 14:56:36:

In Reply to: Barrel length advise needed posted by RRC on June 08, 2000 at 14:24:40:

RRC; A longer barrel will offer a little higher velocity, did you try Hastings?

Re: Devastator Crossbows??

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Posted by bowhunter on June 08, 2000 at 14:30:34:

In Reply to: Devastator Crossbows?? posted by West on June 08, 2000 at 09:30:23:

I'm an Excalibur owner myself. Don't know much about the Devastator. Excalibur has an excellent crossbow discussion group at their website http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/ Might want to make a post there. There might be some bias to Excalibur but most of the posts are pretty objective.

Barrel length advise needed

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Posted by RRC on June 08, 2000 at 14:24:40:

I'm ordering a new barrel for my Mossberg 500 and I'm sort of torn between the 28" and the 24" (no 26" offered). The reason I would like a new barrel is that currently it is a 30" plain barrel with fixed mod. choke. As this is great for waterfowling I find it kinda long for grouse & hares. As well I like the idea of the vent rib & screw in chokes. I split my time between being in the blind and in the uplands. I was leaning towards the 24" as I could always keep using the 30" if I find the 24" a little short in the blind. As well the 24" would be great for grouse and hare as well possibly turkey's and deer if needed. On the other hand the 28" is a good all around length that is offered on most 12g today. A new shotgun at this time is not in my plans (or should I say my wife's plans).

Any suggestions?

Bear on Scugog Island

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Posted by Steve on June 08, 2000 at 12:44:43:

Heard a report of a black bear sighting on Scugog Island last week. Haven't been able to contact the guy yet to confirm. Anyone else hear the rumor? That's getting pretty far south, although there was a nuisance bear shot just north of Bowmanville last year.

Re: Partridge

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Posted by marie arsenault on June 08, 2000 at 09:41:12:

In Reply to: Partridge posted by JonyB on September 15, 1999 at 18:37:20:

What do wild northern partridge eat?

Devastator Crossbows??

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Posted by West on June 08, 2000 at 09:30:23:

Hey Guys,

I just bought a Devastator crossbow, my first. Was wondering what people think of the brand name. Good comments or bad? I've taken a couple of practice shots and it seems to work fine but it needs a little scope adjustment. Is there a shop around the Toronto area that tunes crossbows? Being my first bow i want to get it checked to make sure everything is working ok!! Any comments or tips?

Regards, West

Re: Harassment or Freedom of speech.

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Posted by Stephen on June 08, 2000 at 08:23:47:

In Reply to: Harassment or Freedom of speech. posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 22:24:19:

Or we just don't post a reply!

Tough to do mind you.

Confiscation?

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Posted by Kevin on June 07, 2000 at 22:53:15:

That will never happen here!

Harassment or Freedom of speech.

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Posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 22:24:19:

Just heard back from one of my emails to our friend's ISP...

We understand your frustration but unfortunitly/fortunitly the free speech laws limits our actions unless the use is illegal. Respectfully, ICG Abuse Dept.

Out of curiosity I looked up the Internet abuse document of my ISP, Look Communications to see what exactly constitutes abuse and harassment....

"We generally decline to intervene in the case of ongoing Usenet debates. If, in our judgment, the exchange is mutual, and if the complainant does not also agree to terminate comment, then we will not consider it harassment should you continue to participate on a public newsgroup or forum only. We will not consider such an exchange harassive. The policies of the Usenet group, mailing list or Web forum will be taken into account in our consideration of such situations, but this is not the only factor we consider".

Under this definition, the fact that everyone was posting back to shadowfox makes it an "exchange of ideas or discussion", which is what a public forum is suppose to be!

The only thing we can do is block IP's from abusers of our rules.

Kern

Re: a little more info,

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Posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 13:59:06:

In Reply to: Re: a little more info, posted by Stephen on June 07, 2000 at 13:23:11:

Thanks for the link. Ill keep that one in bookmarks for next time.

Kern

Re: a little more info,

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Posted by Stephen on June 07, 2000 at 13:23:11:

In Reply to: Re: a little more info, posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 09:51:27:

Here's a little tip, All I did was a domain name search according to the ip address and then a whois to find the owner of the domain. Quite simple nowadays, here's a link to a web page to give you the answers.

http://swhois.net/

Later.

Re: Its our turn.

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Posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 10:02:16:

In Reply to: Re: Its our turn. posted by DEER SLAYER on June 07, 2000 at 05:54:39:

The program I used is called AY Spy you can get it at tucows under network tools - under DNS look up. http://idirect.tucows.com/dns95.html

Cyber kit is also a good one( same site) but you have to upgrade your winsock to 2.0 or alot of the options wont work. I also found out that you may have trouble using these behind a firewall. Not too long ago once you had an IP# you just nuked the bastard of line everytime he showed his head, but many ISPs frown on that kind of stuff and there are too many port scanners out there that can trace where the nuke came from.

good luck and remember you can run but you cant hide.

Kern

Re: Its our turn.

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Posted by Andy on June 07, 2000 at 09:59:03:

In Reply to: Its our turn. posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 00:32:38:

Yes, I've contacted the ISP with sufficient information from the log files so they will be able to track down the miscreant. Whether they do that or not, who knows? I've never had great success with ISPs actually doing something about abusers. But the ball is in their court; I'm denying access to requests from rasserver IP's. And I won't hesitate to add to the blacklist any ISPs who give only lip service to user abuse.

If we get more disruptive posts, please ignore them. Just send me email and I will deal with them.

Re: a little more info,

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Posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 09:51:27:

In Reply to: a little more info, posted by Stephen on June 07, 2000 at 08:37:18:

Good job Stephen, I sent email to steve chang and copied abuse@* & webmaster@* . I will also email the adresses you posted. The program I used was share ware and was limited to IP's under 204.***.***.*** so i couldnt do any thing with the higher IP.

I hope everyone here sends a msg as well.

Kern

a little more info,

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Posted by Stephen on June 07, 2000 at 08:37:18:

In Reply to: Its our turn. posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 00:32:38:

Hi Kern,

I thought of the same thing you did and sent a note off, our 'friend' also used 198.211.199.242, 198.211.200.230, 198.211.201.21, and 204.32.146.175

I sent my complaint to abuse@RASSERVER.NET

I tracked it down to the following;

Registrant: ICG Communications (RASSERVER-DOM) 532 Race Street San Jose, CA 95126 US

Domain Name: RASSERVER.NET Administrative Contact: NOC Abuse (NA3860-ORG) abuse@RASSERVER.NET ICG Communications -- Wholesale 532 Race Street San Jose, CA 95126 US 303-414-3345 Fax- 408-579-5280 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Weston, Robert (RW11103) robert_weston@ICGCOMM.COM ICG Communications, Inc. 532 Race St. San Jose, CA 95126 (408) 579-5000 (FAX) (408) 579-5250 Billing Contact: Siddiqui, Wally (WS5418) wally_siddiqui@ICGCOMM.COM ICG Communications 532 Race Street San Jose, CA 95126 408-579-5145 (FAX) 408-579-5280

The best defence is to ignore the posts and send an email off to their provider.

I guess our 'friend' figured we are all a bunch of rednecks with a shotgun in the back rack of the pickup.

Enjoy

Re: Its our turn.

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Posted by DEER SLAYER on June 07, 2000 at 05:54:39:

In Reply to: Its our turn. posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 00:32:38:

Where can one find that program you used.........thanks in advance...DEER SLAYER

Its our turn.

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Posted by Kern on June 07, 2000 at 00:32:38:

Recently, we all had to put up with a nuisance(we could all think of a better name) posting disruptive msgs on OUR board. What surprised me the most is that this individual thought that if he/she didnt post an email address, than there was no way for us to stop him. To think like that you must be new to the net or incredibly nieve.

With a simple program I downloaded from the net, I was able to trace this person to San Hose Californis(not Texas as he claimed). Let me clarify...his internet provider is in San Hose : NETCOM On-Line Communication Services, Inc. ,3031 Tisch Way, Lobby Level, San Jose, CA 95128. 408-579-5000

I would love to beable to give you guys a personal email address but Im not that good ,so you will have to settle for the Coordinator of his service provider: steve_chang@icgcomm.com

Many service providers have strict rules of conduct for its subscribers, Im sure this idiot crossed the line a few times. Everyone please feel free to email Steve Chang and let him know what you think of the behaviour of this idiot. Remember, Steve is only an admin. so please be polite and professional. The IP, date and time are 198.211.199.103 3:35pm eastern time, June 3rd,2000. This must be included in your email as it is the idiots "finger prints". Sorry, but this is the only ip and date I recorded, if this guy needs more info, Im sure Andy can supply it. Infact Im betting Andy has already contacted NETCOM On-Line concerning this issue.

One last comment...Im not one to stick my head in the sand and hope the problem goes away but these kind of A**holes get off on makin trouble and pulling your chain. Since you cant put them in your cross hairs, the alternative is to completely ignor their posts and notify their service provider or the sysop running the site that they are trying to disrupt.

Good Shootin' Kern

Re: What a system!

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Posted by Stephen on June 06, 2000 at 22:35:29:

In Reply to: Re: What a system! posted by Fischer on June 06, 2000 at 14:53:22:

Well. I finally made it through the phone lines today. It took about 6 tries and 2 hours before their phone system would let me stay on hold. At that point only a 3 minute wait. & weeks into it, my application is finally on their system. No word yet though. I guess I will call once a week until I know.

PS. I always wondered about those questions about someone in a relationships, somewhere some poor bastard is going to have to put his wife on the app and his girlfriend at the same time! think about it.

Springfeild Scout 6

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Posted by Shotgunner on June 06, 2000 at 20:51:59:

I was wondering how much I should pay for the Springfeild scout 6 22LR/.410. I saw it in a store for $320, that doesn't sound right to me; I think. So i was wondering how much I should pay, and if you know a store selling it for less in GTA let me know.

Thank you for your time!

Re: What a system!

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Posted by Fischer on June 06, 2000 at 14:53:22:

In Reply to: What a system! posted by Stephen on June 06, 2000 at 13:15:11:

Stephen, I started phoning once a week after the 28 day waiting period. I got mine back in 2 months to the day, including the time required for them to send my application back because they couldn't understand one of their own questions.

My buddy sent his in the same day as me, and his took 6 months to come back. He didn't start calling until after 5 months without a reply.

We both had previously had FAC's, and I think his was still in effect. Mine had expired but I did have a registered restricted firearm. I don't know if these factors made much of a difference in either case or not.

However, I felt it was my right as a citizen to be able to call at least once a week and inquire as to the status of my application. And if my calling them drove the cost of this boondoggle up, Oh Well! ;)

If I recall, the question they screwed up was 14 A- "have you lived with anyone other than your current spouse or common-law partner in the last two years?" I answered "No". Question 14 B was "If YES, please provide the addresses". I didn't answer 14 B because it wasn't applicable, but they sent my application back!

You're right. What a system!!

What a system!

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Posted by Stephen on June 06, 2000 at 13:15:11:

My application has been in for 8 weeks without even making it on their system yet. Maybe I have it easier than some.

Language complicates new gun laws for Inuit WebPosted Tue Jun 6 10:29:49 2000 ET

IQUALUIT - The new gun laws are causing confusion among thousands of Inuit hunters in Nunavut, where the main language is Inuktitut and guns are vital.

The federal government has told all gun-owners to get a firearms licence by Jan. 1, 2001. But the forms are only in English. And that's a problem for most of the people who live in Canada's newest territory. Most of them are Inuit and speak Inuktitut. They hunt to feed their families so they're paying close attention to the new gun laws.

But when they try to apply for a new licence, they find there are no forms in their language. "The actual firearms application is in English only," says Joshi Mitzimi, Nunavut's firearms officer. "What people don't know is that our Member of Parliament has asked the government of Canada to translate the application into Inuktitut as well but the federal government hasn't replied yet."

Under the new laws, Canadians must also take a safety course to get the firearms licence. In Iqaluit, officers are scrambling to find enough bilingual volunteers to teach that course.

For now, officials are offering an alternative to the course in Nunavut. Gun owners can take a test of 10 questions using an interpretor. They can opt out of the course if they pass the test.

Northern firearms officers have a big job ahead of them. They must get the correct information to about 4,500 people who need to apply for a licence before the deadline and that's less than six months away.

Re: Browning O/U

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Posted by Kevin on June 06, 2000 at 07:39:48:

In Reply to: Browning O/U posted by Pierre on June 05, 2000 at 22:51:33:

Pierre; My suggestion would be to get a subscription to Canadian Access To Firearms and drop a message on the Canadian Firearms Digest.

Browning O/U

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Posted by Pierre on June 05, 2000 at 22:51:33:

I have a Browning 12g O/U (Superposed) that probably dates to the early 60s. I'm looking for the same model in a 20g for upland birds, preferably of the same vintage. Anyone out there with suggestions as to where I could find one to purchase ? The wood used on the newer ones just doesn't compare. Thanks.

Thanks Andy

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Posted by Bob on June 05, 2000 at 12:34:21:

unfortunately he she will be back, or others like him/her/it. I hope we can remain civil, and stick to our common goals of better hunting oportunities, and better game management.

Re: All around gun

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Posted by Kern on June 05, 2000 at 12:00:39:

In Reply to: Re: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 05, 2000 at 10:20:58:

Almost everyone makes a combo. Winchester has one that is in the same price range of the 870 but the model number eludes me. If you go to their site you will see it there.

www.winchester.com

Kern

Thanks for the cleanup Andy. NMSG

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Posted by Kern on June 05, 2000 at 10:26:40:

NMSG

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Posted by hutchman on June 05, 2000 at 10:20:58:

In Reply to: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

Thanks for the response. I'll let you know what I decide. I'm aware of the reputation that the 870 holds. What I was kind of hoping for were some other models that I could compare the 87 against. Are there any other manufactures out there that make combo guns? Thanks in advance.

Andy, thank you for taking care of that nuisance! Back to hunting...

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Posted by West on June 05, 2000 at 09:35:41:

In Reply to: The squeaky wheel gets the grease! posted by Braden on June 04, 2000 at 23:47:02:

nomsg

The squeaky wheel gets the grease!

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Posted by Braden on June 04, 2000 at 23:47:02:

Seems like you fellas have been greasing Shadow fox pretty hard ........ If you don't respond, the poster in question will go away! I gaaaaronteee it!!! When you take away the fuel, the fire will go out.

Braden

Re: All around gun

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Posted by Horntrip on June 03, 2000 at 20:43:30:

In Reply to: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

I don't have a Remington, so I won't mention the other makes I do have, since most seem to like Remington. What I will say however, is that in 30+ years of hunting I have found that everyone seems to be happy with whatever they purchase as long as its mean't for the task at hand. Nowadays I don't believe there is a bad one. I'm sure which ever one you choose will give you many years of satisfaction and will always be your favorite because its your first. Enjoy every minute you have while hunting and take only what you need. Remember, if you take care of mother nature, she'll take care of you. (what the heck, I got a Winchester 1200)

Re: Algoma MPP

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Posted by Steve on June 03, 2000 at 15:23:23:

In Reply to: Re: Algoma MPP posted by Kevin on June 02, 2000 at 23:32:35:

True enough Kevin, but I still have to question his timing. Shortly after the ban, when it was time to stand up and be counted, the poor outfitters were left alone at the bottom of the political dungheap.

Heck I drove from Oshawa to North Bay and back in one day in February just to attend the Bring Back the Bear Hunt Rally - and I've never hunted bears in my life! I felt it was an important enough issue to step up to the plate and lend my support in whatever way I could.

I'm sure the Liberal policy might change - if we can figure out if they even have a policy - other than contradicting whatever Harris does.

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Posted by TC on June 03, 2000 at 11:05:35:

In Reply to: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

Hutchman,welcome to the board and to the world of hunting. Always glad to see new people taking up the sport. My dad bought me an 870 more than 20 years ago for my 13th birthday. The gun was used when he bought it and I still have it ( and many fond memories afield to go with it). When I was a teenager I literally poured hundreds and hundreds of rounds through this gun shooting trap as well as in the field and it always functioned perfectly.These guns are built to last a lifetime and I don't see how you could go wrong buying one. Though I have many more guns now this one will always be my favourite just because my dad gave it to me when I was a kid .....Good Luck...TC

Re: All around gun

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Posted by DEER SLAYER on June 03, 2000 at 06:15:22:

In Reply to: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

I see that the a$$hole that calls himself ShadowFox doesn't have the balls to put up his email address...........Andy, you should kick him off the board.......any way hutchman.........go with the 870 Express.......I have two 870's & they both have the Choate synthetic pistol grip type stocks on them & I just love them to death.........you can't go wrong.........good luck & good hunting..........DEER SLAYER

Re: Algoma MPP

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Posted by Kevin on June 02, 2000 at 23:32:35:

In Reply to: Re: Algoma MPP posted by Steve on June 02, 2000 at 17:44:42:

Steve; I would agree with you in part but when Mike Brown attacks the ban on the spring bear hunt in public and takes the issue into the Legislature I have to applaud the man for his efforts. Has Liberal policy changed?...I don`t know, but when they do something right ...lets pat them on the back and thank them for it.

Re: All around gun

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Posted by wtrfwlr_2000 on June 02, 2000 at 22:00:40:

In Reply to: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

Welcome hutchman! I started with my 870 wingmaster 15 years ago, and still love it to this day1 Fortunatly it has been in my hunting partners hand for the last 5 years. Since then I have used a 1100 Remington semi and love it! Can't beat it for wing shooting! All I have to say, put your money into something that is comfortable and is most practical for what you are going for! Good luck! Stay safe!

Re: topo maps

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Posted by roho on June 02, 2000 at 20:14:57:

In Reply to: topo maps posted by jeff white on June 02, 2000 at 10:39:11:

go to M N R store look under maps go to ont base maps 1/20,000 you can zero in on any spot in ont

Re: Remington 11-96 Euro

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Posted by TC on June 02, 2000 at 17:52:18:

In Reply to: Remington 11-96 Euro posted by Shooter on June 01, 2000 at 00:33:33:

Shooter , if you really want a nice autoloader check out the new Beretta AL391 Urika. They are more expensive than the Remington but I think they are a better gun than the Remington 11-96 which is really just a skelotonized version of the 11-87. Beretta took their already well made AL390,made it more slender,reduced the weight,and made some small changes to the gas compensation system etc.so the gun would have less felt recoil. I saw one at my dealer's a couple of weeks ago and was impressed with the gun and its good balance for such a light gun. If I had the coin I would pick one up in a heartbeat...just my $.02.....TC

Re: Algoma MPP

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Posted by Steve on June 02, 2000 at 17:44:42:

In Reply to: Algoma MPP posted by Kevin on June 01, 2000 at 23:36:14:

Kevin - I was at the "Bring Back the Bear Hunt Rally" in North Bay in Feb 1999, just after the hunt was cancelled. Mike Brown was there and wouldn't commit that his government would overturn the ban if they were elected. There were questions from the floor that Mike tapdanced around and Gerry Vautour, the President of the Ontario Black Bear Association, finally said in desperation, "Is it too much to ask that a politician might answer a question directly?"

At the rally, I didn't hear anything from him that indicated he'd lobby to overturn the ban, even tho many bear outfitters were his constituents. Liberal leader McGinty spoke out directly that he wouldn't reinstate the hunt so I'm guessing Mike would be toeing the line.

I'm sure he's concerned that one of his constituents got attacked by a bear, but I wouldn't put these recent efforts into any other category than political advantage-taking, which happens no matter who is in power. Don't count on the Liberals or the NDP reinstating the hunt. Ain't gonna happen.

Re: All around gun

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Posted by Chuck on June 02, 2000 at 13:07:50:

In Reply to: Re: All around gun posted by Hitman on June 02, 2000 at 11:24:08:

Why handicap yourself with an all-around gun.Buy a gun specific for each type hunting. You will probably end up doing this in the long run.

Re: All around gun

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Posted by Chuck on June 02, 2000 at 13:07:33:

In Reply to: Re: All around gun posted by Hitman on June 02, 2000 at 11:24:08:

Why handicap yourself with an all-around gun.Buy a gun specific for each type hunting. You will probably end up doing this in the long run.

Re: All around gun

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Posted by Hitman on June 02, 2000 at 11:28:09:

In Reply to: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

One more thing. I am a police officer and when crap hit's the fan and long guns come out, you can bet that they are 870's. Pretty much the same for every police service in Ontario. Even the Tactical teams use them. If this doesn't speak for there reliability, I don't know what does.

Hitman

Re: All around gun

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Posted by Hitman on June 02, 2000 at 11:24:08:

In Reply to: Re: All around gun posted by Kern on June 02, 2000 at 11:08:45:

I have a Benelli SBE, a Ruger Red Label, and a Browning Superposed. Besides these I have 3 870's. If I had to take one gun, I would grab an 870. You can't beat them for reliability. Get the synthetic stock as someone else mentioned. Put a very low power or Red Dot type scope on it for deer and use good slugs (Sabots or Brenneke) and you will kill deer at 150 yards. If you don't believe it take it to a range and try it. You can get the 31/2 inch Super Mag or just the three inch. Personally I don't feel you need the 3 1/2 inch. I have killed lots of turkeys with 3 inch and seen tons of geese killed with 3 inch steel, but the choice is yours...obviously. You will not be disappointed with an 870.

Good Luck and let's us know what you go with. Hitman

Re: All around gun

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Posted by Kern on June 02, 2000 at 11:08:45:

In Reply to: All around gun posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

Welcome to the board Hutchman. The 870 express combo would be a very good choice. With the rifled barrel and the choice of rounds you get with the super mag, your pretty much setup for anything. I know a few people who have and like them. Personally, I prefer them in synthetic as the wood on the 870's look like they were cut from fence posts.

topo maps

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Posted by jeff white on June 02, 2000 at 10:39:11:

I've already ordered maps from world of maps at 1:50000 for a hardcopy version but was wondering if there was any to view through the net thanks

All around gun

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Posted by hutchman on June 02, 2000 at 08:10:23:

Hello Everyone. I really enjoy reading this board as I'm a new hunter. I just passed the tests and I wan tto buy a gun. I'm almost sure that I only want to purchase 1 gun. I'm into hunting turkey, waterfowl and deer. A friend has suggested that I buy an 870 express combo. It comes with a deer slug barrel and a smooth barrel. If you lads could purchase one all purpose shotgun what would it be??????

Re: Sighting in Rifle

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Posted by Dave on June 02, 2000 at 00:02:08:

In Reply to: Sighting in Rifle posted by Stephen on May 31, 2000 at 22:51:17:

If you're willing to drive 3 hrs just head down Kingston way and go up to some crown land north of 401. There is plenty of it and you can all you like for free. Plus there must be a number of ranges around the towns.

Algoma MPP

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Posted by Kevin on June 01, 2000 at 23:36:14:

Mike Brown is the Liberal MPP for Algoma and he is dedicated to supporting and representing his constituants in his northern Ontario riding.Presently he is raising the issue in the Legislature over the recent bear attack in northern Ontario last week. Please write him just to say thanks for his efforts, he`s a good man that supports a common sense approach to wildlife management.

mike_brown-mpp@ontla.ola.org

Re: Remington 11-96 Euro

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Posted by Stephen on June 01, 2000 at 08:29:43:

In Reply to: Remington 11-96 Euro posted by Shooter on June 01, 2000 at 00:33:33:

Hi shooter, here is a little info I found on the subject.

I see it is available at Gagnon's in Oshawa 1000.00 canadian; http://www.gagnonsports.com/html/11-96_autoloader.html

Here is some info on it. Model 11-96 Euro Lightweight

12 ga., ulttra-light upland autoloader with a light contour chrome-moly barrel with a 6mm wide ventilated rib. American walnut stock and fore-end with fine-line engraving on both sides of receiver. Supplied with Improved Cylinder, Modified and Full Rem Chokes. REM-9863, 28" bbl., 7 lbs. 705.95 REM-9869, 26" bbl., 6 7/8 lbs. 705.95

Hitman

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Posted by Kevin on June 01, 2000 at 01:04:17:

Hitman; I got you linked on my waterfowl page. Kevin.

Hitman

Re: Sighting in Rifle

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Posted by Shooter on June 01, 2000 at 00:36:57:

In Reply to: Sighting in Rifle posted by Stephen on May 31, 2000 at 22:51:17:

there is one in Lambton County south of Sarnia. They want $100 annual per member. about the best i can squeeze is 60 to 7o yards out of their pit range. I am sure there is one closer to you but let me know.

Shooter

Remington 11-96 Euro

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Posted by Shooter on June 01, 2000 at 00:33:33:

I seen this one in a catalogue a couple years back but never laid my eyes on one. Is it (was it) available in Canada? Anyone seen one? own one? comments? they sell for about $675 US.

Shooter

Remington 11-96 Euro

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Posted by Shooter on June 01, 2000 at 00:33:21:

I seen this one in a catalogue a couple years back but never laid my eyes on one. Is it (was it) available in Canada? Anyone seen one? own one? comments? they sell for about $675 US.

Shooter

Sighting in Rifle

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Posted by Stephen on May 31, 2000 at 22:51:17:

Are there any rifle ranges where a person could go to sight in a rifle? A friend and I would like to get out and target shoot before this season's moose hunt. We are in the Toronto area and willing to travel within a 3 hour range. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: thought you might like this this is why we have a spring bear season

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Posted by bowhunter on May 31, 2000 at 10:00:30:

In Reply to: thought you might like this this is why we have a spring bear season posted by chessy on May 30, 2000 at 11:44:34:

Just a matter of time until sombody is killed or mamed. The blood will be on Harris's and Snoblen's hands.

Re: Turkey Closing

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Posted by bowhunter on May 31, 2000 at 09:56:13:

In Reply to: Turkey Closing posted by Vince on May 30, 2000 at 15:04:01:

I have an OFAH calander in my office. It shows turkey season closing on May 31.

Re: thought you might like this this is why we have a spring bear season

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Posted by Paolo on May 31, 2000 at 00:24:10:

In Reply to: thought you might like this this is why we have a spring bear season posted by chessy on May 30, 2000 at 11:44:34:

Also in Thunder Bay bears are starting to come out into the city.The police have told residents to keep an eye out and again to try to keep properties garbage free.

Re: Trapped Black Bear

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Posted by Kevin on May 30, 2000 at 17:37:20:

In Reply to: Trapped Black Bear posted by Alex on May 30, 2000 at 14:49:44:

Here are some interesting bear sites.

bear link 1 bear link 2 bear link 3

Re: Turkey Closing

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Posted by Hitman on May 30, 2000 at 15:19:29:

In Reply to: Turkey Closing posted by Vince on May 30, 2000 at 15:04:01:

My understanding is that it is May 31.

Turkey Closing

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Posted by Vince on May 30, 2000 at 15:04:01:

Im hearing conflicting reports and don't have the regulation book handy. Is tomorrow the last day for turkey hunting or is it today?

Trapped Black Bear

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Posted by Alex on May 30, 2000 at 14:49:44:

Wondering if anyone knew the exact amount of Black Bears trapped during the previous season or who could be contacted to obtain this info. Have tried several phone numbers, but most are reluctant to give out any numbers. Also, what are the trapping season dates, regulations etc. Trying a different approach to keep our spring hunting season in Manitoba. Thanks in advance for any info!

thought you might like this this is why we have a spring bear season

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Posted by chessy on May 30, 2000 at 11:44:34:

Woman mauled by rampaging bear

By CP SAULT STE. MARIE -- A 19-year-old woman is recovering in hospital from leg injuries suffered in a weekend bear attack in northern Ontario.

Rene Connelly of Regina, Sask., was planting trees outside Chapleau, Ont., Sunday when she was attacked by a bear believed to weigh about 110 kg.

Connelly tried to fight off the bear with a shovel but was bitten three times on the leg.

The worker for the Wilderness Reforestation was able to flee only when the bear became distracted by her lunch. The bear then chased Connelly down a bush road.

CO-WORKER TO RESCUE

Co-worker Jamie Reed put himself between Connelly and the bear and began pelting it with rocks, leading the bear on a 1.2-km chase to a supervisor's vehicle, OPP said.

The injured woman was transported to Chapleau General Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Attempts were made yesterday to capture the animal in a live trap.

In recent days, bears have become a nuisance around Sault Ste. Marie as the animals come out of hibernation.

Several residents called police over the weekend to report bear sightings, including one behind a Methodist church and another behind a local food market.

Police say residents can prevent bears from coming around their homes by keeping garbage tightly sealed.

Re: second hunt

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Posted by Hitman on May 29, 2000 at 20:11:53:

In Reply to: second hunt posted by jeff white on May 28, 2000 at 19:34:33:

I don't think you will find it to be a big problem. Just change your decoy set up a bit.

Hitman

Re: Kingston Fishing/Hunting Clubs

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Posted by Ken Flieger on May 29, 2000 at 15:06:27:

In Reply to: Kingston Fishing/Hunting Clubs posted by Dave on May 21, 2000 at 22:19:53:

You could also try the Westport Outdoors Association

Re: second hunt

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Posted by Steve on May 28, 2000 at 22:32:23:

In Reply to: second hunt posted by jeff white on May 28, 2000 at 19:34:33:

It's certainly legal to do so and I honestly don't have enough experience with turkeys to know if they "remember" where danger (for them anyway) was a day or so before.

second hunt

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Posted by jeff white on May 28, 2000 at 19:34:33:

is it ok to hunt turkeys from the exact same spot as where one was taken a few days before or do you have to let an area rest.

Re: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today...here's another one

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Posted by Buck (yes this is my real name on May 28, 2000 at 01:09:38:

In Reply to: Re: Anti PETA bumper sticker seen today...here's another one posted by Keemo *The Canuck* on October 27, 1999 at 13:40:35:

What do you call a Vegitarian with diareha? SALAD SHOOTER

Another good link.

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Posted by Kevin on May 27, 2000 at 21:28:11:

In Reply to: Re: RADIOS RADIOS RADIOS posted by Kevin on May 27, 2000 at 20:15:45:

Radios

Two Biologists !

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Posted by Kevin on May 27, 2000 at 20:36:10:

Two biologists are in the field following the tracks of a radio-collared grizzly bear. All of a sudden, the bear crashes out of the brush and heads right for them. They scramble up the nearest tree, but the bear starts climbing up the tree after them. The first biologist starts taking off his heavy leather hiking boots and pulls a pair of sleek running shoes from his back-pack. The second biologist gives him a puzzled look and says, "What in the world are you doing?" He replies, "I figure when the bear gets close to us, we'll jump down and make a run for it." The second guy says, "Are you crazy? We both know you can't outrun a full-grown grizzly bear." The first guy says, "I don't have to outrun the bear... I only have to outrun you!"

Re: RADIOS RADIOS RADIOS

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Posted by Kevin on May 27, 2000 at 20:15:45:

In Reply to: RADIOS RADIOS RADIOS posted by jeff white on May 27, 2000 at 19:17:02:

I like the TalkAbouts by Motorola.

Motorola

RADIOS RADIOS RADIOS

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Posted by jeff white on May 27, 2000 at 19:17:02:

looking to purchase two-way radios for the next moose season. does anyone have any feedback as to type, make or style to buy or avoid. twobeenaked@home.com

RADIOS RADIOS RADIOS

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Posted by jeff white on May 27, 2000 at 19:16:08:

looking to purchase two-way radios for the next moose season. does anyone have any feedback as to type, make or style to buy or avoid. twobeenaked@home.com

Re: Powder AA 2460

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Posted by Rick Teal on May 27, 2000 at 19:15:12:

In Reply to: Re: Powder AA 2460 posted by bob on May 20, 2000 at 21:07:10:

Bob:

Thanks for the lead. I E-Mailed them, but apparently they don't carry Accurate Arms Powder.

I got a lead on another board that I'm trying to follow-up now.

Thanks again. Rick

Re: First Turkey

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Posted by roho on May 27, 2000 at 18:26:41:

In Reply to: First Turkey posted by bowhunter on May 26, 2000 at 12:38:10:

Well done bowhunter i also bagged my first this year it was a definate high i guess i go fishing now till bow season opens see you in the woods roho

Re: Turkey Calls - What type?

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Posted by Horntrip on May 27, 2000 at 14:16:15:

In Reply to: Re: Turkey Calls - What type? posted by Nimrod on May 26, 2000 at 16:57:14:

Thanks for all the info.. I think I will maybe try to get one of each as money permits. I too have tried a mouth call and can't even get a sound out of it, let alone a tickle. I guess it takes practice, practice, practice and getting used to.

Re: Turkey Calls - What type?

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Posted by Nimrod on May 26, 2000 at 16:57:14:

In Reply to: Re: Turkey Calls - What type? posted by Steve on May 26, 2000 at 14:17:54:

This is my 8th season of turkey and I have been lucky enough to take 4 birds so far (including one on opening day this year; I'm going for number 2 tomorrow). I use a box call, a slate (with 2 different strikers), a plunger, a diaphragm and a shaker gobble. I think it is important to have a variety of calls to try, as some days they will respond to a particular one but not to another, and it also gives the illusion of multiple hens. I use the box primarily, until they get in close.

Now I have a question. I have yet to master the diaphragm, largely because I find that the latex tickles the roof of my mouth as it vibrates. I find this to be too ticklish. Anyone know of a diaphragm that would work better for this?

Re: Turkey Calls - What type?

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Posted by Steve on May 26, 2000 at 14:17:54:

In Reply to: Turkey Calls - What type? posted by Horntrip on May 24, 2000 at 09:43:18:

Quaker Boy triple threat slate and peg for distance and a Quaker Boy jagged edge diaphragm for when you can't move.

Re: First Turkey

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Posted by Steve on May 26, 2000 at 14:14:57:

In Reply to: First Turkey posted by bowhunter on May 26, 2000 at 12:38:10:

Congratulations are definitely in order. I got my first just over a week ago and posted it here. 18.5 pounds with a 9-inch beard. I had the advantage of being behind a cedar rail fence so I didn't have to worry about shouldering the gun. It was already up!

I've taken a number of deer both with shotgun and bow and I found this way more exciting and challenging. I'm hooked for sure!!

Congrats again.

First Turkey

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Posted by bowhunter on May 26, 2000 at 12:38:10:

Bagged by first bird ever this morning at 6:15, 14.5 lb jake. He was following two hens. They came in silent and caught me a bit out of position. The two hens held up about 10-15 yds short of my decoys. The jake was another 10-15 yds behind them. They held for 20 minutes before finally coming in to get a better look. The jake moved into about where the hens had held, when I unloaded at him. Pretty challenging trying to shoulder your gun with 3 sets of eyes out there trying to spot you. What a buzz !

Re: Thanks Stephen...No Sweat NTXT

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on May 26, 2000 at 11:11:45:

In Reply to: Thanks Stephen posted by Kevin on May 26, 2000 at 07:49:15:

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Re: Turkey Calls - What type?

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Posted by Kern on May 26, 2000 at 08:04:18:

In Reply to: Turkey Calls - What type? posted by Horntrip on May 24, 2000 at 09:43:18:

I have a Quaker boy box call. Decided on that one because its suppose to be easy to pick up. Have yet to put it to serious use.

Thanks Stephen

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Posted by Kevin on May 26, 2000 at 07:49:15:

In Reply to: Ontario Gun Shops posted by Kevin on May 26, 2000 at 07:34:23:

The above link is from Stephen Redgwell`s .303 page and can be found here .303 Site please contact Stephen if your gun shop is missing and hopefully he will post it. Thanks Steve.

Ontario Gun Shops

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Posted by Kevin on May 26, 2000 at 07:34:23:

Gun Shops

Re: Texas Rags

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Posted by Dennis on May 26, 2000 at 01:09:47:

In Reply to: Texas Rags posted by Dave on May 25, 2000 at 19:24:55:

Dave, Yep, flags have been real effective for geese. I know of a guy that is selling both flags for geese and is coming out with a flag for ducks that will have a camo pole. His name is Bob and he can be reached at Wingfeather@angelfire.com Bob hunts out of the Mitchells Bay area off Lake St. Clair and has had tremdous luck with them. Good hunting.

Texas Rags

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Posted by Dave on May 25, 2000 at 19:24:55:

Wondering if anyone has ever used or mixed in Canada geese Texas Rags with there reg. honker decoys ?? We have used texas rags for snows mixed with in with shells, how effective have they been ?? it can be a cheap way to increase your spread size plus the movement can be a bonus at times.

Re: Turkey Calls - What type?

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Posted by hitman on May 25, 2000 at 13:02:50:

In Reply to: Re: Turkey Calls - What type? posted by bowhunter on May 25, 2000 at 09:33:22:

I agree with bowhunter. A box call or slate call when they are a ways out. You have to move quite a bit to work these calls as well, so it makes them tough when the bird is coming in on you. I have an Easy Yelper strapped to the barrel of my gun that I can work as the bird gets in tight and I already have my gun up. Diaphram's are awesome once you get it working. They are cheap so you can have quite a few different sounding ones. Also, having different strikers will change the sound of your slate call.

Kinda like duck hunting. Can never have too many calls.

Hitman

Re: Remington 11-48?

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Posted by Todd on May 25, 2000 at 10:15:55:

In Reply to: Remington 11-48? posted by Lonegunner on October 13, 1999 at 17:15:27:

If anyone has a nomenclature photo and a parts list for the 11-48 I would greatly appreciate a copy of it. Please reply to email and I will send address.....Thanks a bunch!

turkey behaviour

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Posted by bowhunter on May 25, 2000 at 09:39:53:

Does anybody know if turkeys typically avoid longer grass ? Early in the season we were able to coax these birds into open fields where we would set up along the edges. However, now that the hay is getting longer, it appears that they seem to be avoiding the fields. We are planning on going back into the bush for our next outing, to see if we can get one close. By buddies have each bagged there first birds by, I have yet to connect. There are still 3 or 4 gobblers responding to our calls in our area. I'll probably only get one more kick at them. Hope I can connect.

Re: Turkey Calls - What type?

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Posted by bowhunter on May 25, 2000 at 09:33:22:

In Reply to: Turkey Calls - What type? posted by Horntrip on May 24, 2000 at 09:43:18:

I am by no means an expert, since this is my first year turkey hunting also. However, I do like the box call when the bird is still a long ways off. It produces lots of volume. I haven't mastered the diaphram, but I have Quaker Boy plunger call that producess a good purr when the bird gets closer.

Turkey Calls - What type?

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Posted by Horntrip on May 24, 2000 at 09:43:18:

This is my first year turkey hunting and I love it. I have only used one call, a H.S. Strut Friction Call (Black Widow). It works great and I have called in 3 long beards and 4 jakes so far. I'm just wondering what calls others are using (ie. Friction, Box, Diaphram, Shaker, Push Button) and what brand/model. Is one better than another? Would you recommend it for others to buy and use?

Re: Kingston Fishing/Hunting Clubs

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Posted by bowhunter on May 24, 2000 at 09:21:06:

In Reply to: Kingston Fishing/Hunting Clubs posted by Dave on May 21, 2000 at 22:19:53:

There is the Loyalist Sport Fishing Club and I believe there is also a bass fishing club that I don't recall the name of. There is the Frontenac Rifle and Pistol Club that has a range on Mcadoo's Lane. There used to be a Kingston Rod & Gun Club. I don't know if it still exists or not. I don't have any contact numbers for these groups. I beleive the Loyalist club is sponsoring a fishing derby on June 3 with the weigh in at Portsmouth Harbour. This might be a good place to drop by and make some contacts.

back issues-OOD mags

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Posted by Shooter on May 24, 2000 at 00:53:49:

I have quite a collection of Ontario Out Of Doors Magazines. I am missing a couple and a looking to aquire them.

May issue 1989, April issue 1992, anything pre 1977.

I have piles of duplicate old issues going way back if anyone is interested.

Shooter

Re: Any Bird Doggers out there?

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Posted by Jack on May 23, 2000 at 08:11:25:

In Reply to: Any Bird Doggers out there? posted by Fischer on May 12, 2000 at 11:49:46:

I am from the North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association, Ontario Grand River Chapter. We are a dog club that trains, tests and many of us breed versatile hunting dogs, one of those being the Brittany spaniel. You may find more details on our club by logging on to the National Website at http://www.navhda.org/ You are welcome to attend any of training sessions (usually Sunday s) on a farm noth of Guelph. for additional informatiom on our chapter you may e-mail

Re: HUNTING CAMPS

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Posted by chase wallace on May 22, 2000 at 21:48:09:

In Reply to: HUNTING CAMPS posted by DEER SLAYER on October 18, 1999 at 05:48:17:

need hunting camp 1 or 2 hours from panama city florida please email me with club info.

Re: I need your input!!!

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Posted by Kern on May 22, 2000 at 19:45:46:

In Reply to: I need your input!!! posted by Hitman on May 21, 2000 at 13:09:43:

Nice page Hitman. Cant have too many pics. Where's the turkey pics??

Re: New Shotgun Info?

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Posted by kris tichenor on May 22, 2000 at 15:16:27:

In Reply to: Re: New Shotgun Info? posted by TC on September 08, 1999 at 15:47:14:

If you could send me a catalog of your new berretta shotguns.I am very interested in purchasing another one.Thank you very much.

Kingston Fishing/Hunting Clubs

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Posted by Dave on May 21, 2000 at 22:19:53:

Hey everyone. I was just wondering if anyone knew of any clubs in the Kingston area where others who like to fish and hunt might want to get together. Thanks

Re: I need your input!!!

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Posted by Nick on May 21, 2000 at 17:27:13:

In Reply to: I need your input!!! posted by Hitman on May 21, 2000 at 13:09:43:

Hitman,

Just took another look at your site. Looking good ! Everyone enjoys looking at pictures of a good hunt!

Nick

Re: I need your input!!!

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Posted by Shotgunner on May 21, 2000 at 14:21:56:

In Reply to: I need your input!!! posted by Hitman on May 21, 2000 at 13:09:43:

I think that it's a great page! I love looking at all the pictures, I don't think you need to chage anything.

Here`s the link ...

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Posted by Kevin on May 21, 2000 at 13:16:15:

In Reply to: I need your input!!! posted by Hitman on May 21, 2000 at 13:09:43:

Chesapeake Waterfowlers

I need your input!!!

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Posted by Hitman on May 21, 2000 at 13:09:43:

Gentlemen: I run a waterfowl guiding business. I have been working on my own website for it. If you get a chance take a look at it and let me know what you think. Do I need more info, pictures, etc etc?????????

www.chesapeakewaterfowlers.homestead.com

Thanks a bunch Hitman

Re: COOEY Mod 71

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Posted by Kevin on May 21, 2000 at 08:47:56:

In Reply to: Re: COOEY Mod 71 posted by Shooter on May 20, 2000 at 22:27:40:

The Winchester 71 is a lever gun chambered in 348 Winchester and was produced in 1936.I wasn`t sure if it was a clone of the Cooey, I guess it isn`t.You would probably have better luck asking on the Canadian Firearms Digest.

Re: COOEY Mod 71

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Posted by Shooter on May 20, 2000 at 22:27:40:

In Reply to: Re: COOEY Mod 71 posted by Kevin on May 19, 2000 at 20:26:01:

Nope, Mod 71 Cooey was a bolt action HP.

from John Beltons book.... "this was a lower cost Canadian version of the standard Mod 70 Winchester, which was introduced in 1966. It became the model 710 in 1968, was discontinued in 1972 and was available in calibres 225, 243, 270, 308 and 30.06"

there was also a CIL mod 71 available only in 270.

The one i have is a mod 71 cooey, 308. and i am a bit confused with the config of the trigger guard assembly and shell clip. I think it has been modified and would like to compare to an original to see if i can salvage this one... it is a pretty gun.

I cant think of cooey producing any lever guns

Shooter

Re: Powder AA 2460

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Posted by bob on May 20, 2000 at 21:07:10:

In Reply to: Powder AA 2460 posted by Rick Teal on May 20, 2000 at 16:17:53:

Russell sports lists AA2460 in their fall and winter cat. try them at www.russellsports.com Toll free 1888-353-4089 Calgary mail order, Canpar, Loomis will deliver

Re: Powder AA 2460

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Posted by Kevin on May 20, 2000 at 18:34:44:

In Reply to: Powder AA 2460 posted by Rick Teal on May 20, 2000 at 16:17:53:

Any store that sells gun powder should be able to order it if they`re still making it.

Powder AA 2460

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Posted by Rick Teal on May 20, 2000 at 16:17:53:

I saw this powder listed for the .303 British on The .303 Page, and today I tried to buy some to give it a go. The fellow in the gun shop told me it wasn't available in Canada any longer, and that my only source would be the U. S. Since I don't want to go through the hassle of import and explosives permits, this seems to close the door on me.

I was hoping that some of the reloaders here could comment on the accuracy of this guy's statement.

If anyone knows of a source in Ontario or western Quebec, could you let me know?

Re: "FREE HELP" WITH YOUR WOODEN OLD DECOYS

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Posted by hitman on May 20, 2000 at 01:07:40:

In Reply to: "FREE HELP" WITH YOUR WOODEN OLD DECOYS posted by S. Lloyd on May 17, 2000 at 11:07:23:

what are Ray Andress canvasbacks worth these days. excellent condition.

also Benny Anderson bluebills, whistlers good condition

jessie baker bluebills, whistlers, redheads, black average condition

thanks in advance.

Re: COOEY Mod 71

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Posted by Kevin on May 19, 2000 at 20:26:01:

In Reply to: COOEY Mod 71 posted by Shooter on May 19, 2000 at 11:22:44:

Wasn`t the 71 a lever gun?

COOEY Mod 71

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Posted by Shooter on May 19, 2000 at 11:22:44:

Looking for anyone with a cooey mod 71 (predecessor of the winchestor model 70). I aquired one that is in need of repair but am having some probs. I think maybe the stock may have been modified but would like to have a look at another one just to compare....

Shooter

Re: $$$$WANTED OLD DECOYS$$$$$$

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Posted by Shooter on May 19, 2000 at 10:55:36:

In Reply to: $$$$WANTED OLD DECOYS$$$$$$ posted by ndic on May 17, 2000 at 11:16:28:

I Have about 20 or so old ONT decoys... but i dont sell. I have traded in the past to get the collection i have now. I started with a set of about 2 doz Hank Catton/ Frank Deroven Cans. I traded some to Brisco to get other dekes like Metro Sass' Reds.

Some of my dekes have been written about and highlighted in past issues of the CONSERVATOR.

I know a few ppl who have old dekes but they are very tight with them. They enjoy showing them but like myself, dont let the outta the nest.....

Shooter

GREAT page!!! Thx.... no msg

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Posted by Shooter on May 19, 2000 at 10:48:43:

In Reply to: Re: Shooting Targets posted by Kevin on May 16, 2000 at 23:11:02:

no sg

$$$$WANTED OLD DECOYS$$$$$$

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Posted by ndic on May 17, 2000 at 11:16:28:

i AM LOOKING FOR OLD WOODEN DUCK DECOYS, ANY WERE IN THE WORLD.. I love old Ontario duck decoys, so PLEASE find some. If you know anyone anywhere that has old decoys please email me !@!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE I love old decoys !! Yes I an decoy CRAZZZZZY

Re: Firearms Appraisal

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Posted by ndic on May 17, 2000 at 11:11:13:

In Reply to: Re: Firearms Appraisal posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:35:20:

I have a friend that has three guns he wants to sell them !!

do you buy guns ? were are you..!!

Thank you

ndic

"FREE HELP" WITH YOUR WOODEN OLD DECOYS

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Posted by S. Lloyd on May 17, 2000 at 11:07:23:

DECOYS DECOYS DECOYS

I am offering my 24 years experence as Canada's foremost expert on old, wooden, Canadian, Duck hunting decoys ! I offer you or anyone you know that has decoys, a free evaluation and a FREE history search, on youe decoys.. !!

What do I get paid !! I have a passion for the history od Canadian waterfowl hunting and the decoys they used. If you send me a photo of your decoys I will return reseach data and I gain valuable information for peicing my part of Canadian waterfowling history.

It will be my pleasure to help you in any way I can..

Please email me or write: Steve Lloyd c/o The National Decoy Information Center Deseronto Ontario Canada KOK 1XO

WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE ! Wooden duck decoys wanted for public display. No decoy too ugly or to expensive !

Re: Chucks ????

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Posted by Fischer on May 17, 2000 at 08:40:17:

In Reply to: Chucks ???? posted by Tackleberry on May 16, 2000 at 14:28:36:

Thanks Tack (and TC)

Tack, did you get any idiot anti calls to your ads?

The "young lad" is off to College in North Bay this September. ;) It's a 3 year Chef course, so if he develops any good wild game recipes, I'll be sure to share them.

Hopefully I can hook him up with a couple of friends to get him out for grouse and rabbits, since I don't think he'll be able to take the week for deer this year.

Re: Shooting Targets

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Posted by Kevin on May 16, 2000 at 23:11:02:

In Reply to: Shooting Targets posted by Shooter on May 16, 2000 at 20:53:28:

Targets

Shooting Targets

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Posted by Shooter on May 16, 2000 at 20:53:28:

does anyone have a website where i can download paper targets????? I have seen them but cannot find one now Thnx in advance

Shooter

Re: First Turkey

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Posted by hitman on May 16, 2000 at 19:06:23:

In Reply to: Re: First Turkey posted by roho on May 16, 2000 at 16:34:29:

Congratulations in deed!!! Sounds like a great hunt, working him for over two hours. I have filled both my tags for this year, and everyone you get seems more exciting than the last. You definitely get hooked, no doubt about that.

Hitman

Re: First Turkey

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Posted by roho on May 16, 2000 at 16:34:29:

In Reply to: First Turkey posted by Steve on May 16, 2000 at 15:58:17:

CONGRATULATIONS Steve this turkey hunting is a blast, well done

Hunting regs for 2000

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Posted by Kern on May 16, 2000 at 16:06:12:

The 2000 regs are posted for download at the MNR site.

First Turkey

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Posted by Steve on May 16, 2000 at 15:58:17:

Got my first turkey this morning. 18.5 pounds with a 9 1/2 inch beard. All I can say is, "WOW!"

I've gotten my fair share of whitetails, some with shotgun, most with bow, but nothing compares to this. We worked this bird for over 2 hours and when he finally made up his mind to come in, he came in fast. Clean 25 yard shot.

I'm hooked!!

Chucks ????

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 16, 2000 at 14:28:36:

In Reply to: Re: LOCATION??? posted by Fischer on May 15, 2000 at 09:03:33:

Hi Fisher, Haven't spoke in a while, how's the young lad ??

I put another ad in the Wellington Advertizer and well, I hate admit it, the first call I got was from outside of Clifford. I meant to put in again for a few more weeks. Usually get two to three calls per ad. This year is the first in about two years. I was going through withdrawl, it was scary, every little thing in a field looked like a chuck. I think my wife was getting sick of hearing about it.

I use to have a lot of farms in this are, all from the few ad placed and then word of mouth.

The other thing is have a an OFAH membership and flawnt the insurance policy, it has "tipped" the desicion making scale more than once.

Stay Safe Shoot Straight, Tack

Chucks

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Posted by TC on May 16, 2000 at 11:00:11:

In Reply to: Re: LOCATION??? posted by Fischer on May 15, 2000 at 09:03:33:

Fischer,wait till after the first cut of hay is off sometime in June and it is easier to see them as they love to eat young alfalfa sprouts.Also,the young chucks have been weaned by then so they are not left in the hole to die .If you also wait till the soyabeans have been planted you will find them around the edges of the field ( they clean lots of ours off every year). My dad has a short stretch of gully with a crick running through that borders his bean field....great short range shooting with your .22 Mag. or Hornet....for the hay fields and pastures get out your heavy barell long range stuff...TC

Wanted: Boat motor and trailer.

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Posted by Hitman on May 15, 2000 at 19:56:43:

I'm looking for a 30-40 hp outboard, long shaft, tiller and a bunk style trailer for 18 foot Jon boat. If you have or know of any available please let me know.

Thanks a bunch. Hitman

Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 15, 2000 at 15:05:17:

In Reply to: Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 21:13:29:

OH!, up here we call that a "sin tax". It's on everything from booze to smokes.

That appears to be nothing more than what happened up here a few years ago, the attempt to making ownership of firearms unfashionable.

They better think it through ....... all that will result is a"have & have not" climate. Only the wealthy will afford firearms and the societal split will begin.

Hey? ...... isn't that how the War of Independance got started?????? ....Then what came out of that war???? ....????? OH ya !!!! the Constitution !!!!!

I'm a beleiver in knowing history so as not to be destoned to repeat it.

Stay Safe, Tack "Life's tough, .... it's alot tougher if you don't know how to shoot."

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Kern on May 15, 2000 at 11:00:45:

In Reply to: Re: LOCATION??? posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 07:02:27:

Been there done that.... At deer camp once while in my stand with a .270 , wasnt that hard a shot with the scope. Sure makes easy cleaning though :)

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Kern on May 15, 2000 at 10:52:09:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

Hi Hitman, Im live in Courtice and do most of my hunting around Scugog. Mostly hunt ducks and geese, been known to tag the odd rabbit and grouse.

Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone

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Posted by Kevin on May 15, 2000 at 10:46:26:

In Reply to: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 00:16:33:

Phil; Here in Canada if a criminal breaks into your house and you call the police to report it you will become the criminal if the officer finds a firearm that isn`t (what he considers to be) stored safely.Their attention soon distracts from the reason they were called to your house in the first place and becomes focused on nailing your ass.I`m not opposed to education and having guns stored properly where children are present but I am against the criminalization of decent citizens.

Re: Firearms Appraisal

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Posted by Hitman on May 15, 2000 at 10:30:00:

In Reply to: Firearms Appraisal posted by Horntrip on May 14, 2000 at 19:33:35:

My dad does a lot of wheeling and dealing in guns at guns shows etc. Email me a list of what you have and I will have him take a look, if you are interested. I am from Trenton and know both gun shops in Belleville. As someone mentioned, what they will give you and what they should be worth are two separate things.

You could also post a list of the guns here and most of these guys could give you a pretty good estimate of the values. I assume most of them are normal grade rifles and shotguns.

Hitman

An option

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Posted by Kevin on May 15, 2000 at 10:08:04:

In Reply to: Borrow it??? posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:48:26:

Tack; You can also "right click" on the picture and "save as" to capture the picture in one of your program files.

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Fischer on May 15, 2000 at 09:03:33:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

From Kitchener. Hunt rabbits around Guelph and near Clinton. Hopefully will be hunting ducks at my new-best-friends father-in-law's farm near Baden this fall. Deer on Manitoulin Island.

Tack, where are you finding all the chucks? Any place I look around here, there's few, if any. Farmers say the coyotes have cleaned them out. More up around Bruce County cattle country, but I'm not into driving 1 1/2 hrs to hunt chucks.

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Shooter on May 15, 2000 at 03:10:46:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

Lake St Clair region here

Geese on the St Clair River Waterfowl at Rondeau Marsh Rabbits in Lambton Co Deer near Loring in WMU 47 (family farm) Moose near Armstrong WU 16C

Shooter

Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone

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Posted by Bob on May 14, 2000 at 22:05:54:

In Reply to: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 00:16:33:

Time to duck for the American gun owner! http://www1.sympatico.ca/news/Fullstories/w051472.html

It`s on the way.

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Posted by Kevin on May 14, 2000 at 21:25:09:

In Reply to: Borrow it??? posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:48:26:

Tack; Let me know if you didn`t get it. Kevin.

Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone

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Posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 21:13:29:

In Reply to: Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:44:41:

Primarily they want to have every one who owns a handgun or any semi auto rifle with a detachable clip be photographed, fingerprinted, and taxed by the federal government. Not just to buy a new one, but just to keep the one you already have. They have a long list of other requirements, but this is the most serious. The tax would be a total of about a billion dollars if everyone kept their guns. The whole intent is to get people to give up their guns because it is too much of a pain in the butt to keep them

Confused

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:52:00:

In Reply to: Re: LOCATION??? posted by Nick on May 14, 2000 at 07:13:24:

OH!!!!

I thought I heard 12ga. #8 shot was a good all around ammo. :-) ........ I guess it was just 12ga. and then the rest of the example was with #8 or omething like that?!?!? :-) LOL

See ya next week

Borrow it???

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:48:26:

In Reply to: I don`t blame the government posted by Kevin on May 14, 2000 at 10:27:01:

Kevin I love your sheep, can you send me a copy of that????

I'm not a computer guru, so I'm not sure if it's possible.

drop me a line will ya?

tpm@netcom.ca

Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:44:41:

In Reply to: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 00:16:33:

Hey Phil, I heard about the march this weekend but had no details. Seriously now, ... what is there justification for the demands, what do they say will be the out come of this list. I realy want to know, after all, some of these demands "could" be "reasonable" with the right justification.

I'm sure Jessy will take care of you ....I was just telling my partner today about your state being such a NRA strong hold, and the stickers on the Minniapolis crusiers.

Stay Safe, Tack

Re: Firearms Appraisal

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 20:35:20:

In Reply to: Firearms Appraisal posted by Horntrip on May 14, 2000 at 19:33:35:

I'd go with a gun shop, but I'd make it clear you're not looking to unload them to there.... it will probably make a difference. If you have the ability, try a second oppinion, of course don't let on about the first.

Good Luck Tack

Firearms Appraisal

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Posted by Horntrip on May 14, 2000 at 19:33:35:

I'm looking for some help. I live in the Belleville, Ont. area and have a few firearms that I would like appraised. I don't believe they are worth a great deal, but I would like to sell a few and make sure my insurance is adequate for the others. Who does firearms appraisals? Gun Shops? Auctioneers? Any help is much appreciated.

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Braden on May 14, 2000 at 17:19:06:

In Reply to: Re: LOCATION??? posted by Rick Teal on May 14, 2000 at 14:16:02:

I am from King City, Hunt waterfowl most anywhere, varmints on girlfriends farm by Dresdan, Deer and Moose are flexible. Meaning I'll likely hunt deer in a few different units. Moose, well, last year we hunted about 20 miles south of James Bay in WMU 25.

Take Care

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by TC on May 14, 2000 at 14:52:31:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

I'm from the London area and hunt mostly in WMU 92 as well as down near the Chatham area sometimes. Hunt small game,deer hunt around here (both archery and blackpowder),moose hunt up near Nipigon where I have some friends,woodchuck and crow in the off season. Tried my hand at a bit of coyote calling for the first time late in the winter but had no luck so I'm anxious to give it another go next winter....TC

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Rick Teal on May 14, 2000 at 14:16:02:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

I'm originally from Niagara (Crystal Beach), but currently live in the Ottawa area.

I do most of my hunting in the Parry Sound District for deer and moose.

I don`t blame the government

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Posted by Kevin on May 14, 2000 at 10:27:01:

In Reply to: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 00:16:33:

It`s the people (gun owners)that elect them or allow them to be elected.The majority of gun owners have let it happen and let too few spend the money and fight their fight.Now it`s time to ante up.

Re: NICK GO EASY ON MY LAKE AND MY GEESE

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Posted by Nick on May 14, 2000 at 09:02:34:

In Reply to: NICK GO EASY ON MY LAKE AND MY GEESE posted by chessy on May 13, 2000 at 20:47:08:

Jason,

Those Canada's are set aside for you and me my friend !

Re: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone

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Posted by SCREWED IN CANADA on May 14, 2000 at 08:19:39:

In Reply to: Canadian hunters, dont feel alone posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 00:16:33:

We are already photographed & fingerprinted!!!!!!!!!!

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Nick on May 14, 2000 at 07:13:24:

In Reply to: Re: LOCATION??? posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 07:02:27:

Well brother tack (Tim)I hang my head in shame ! LOL I'll head out to my in laws and give it a try some time and as far as 300 pellets ..... maybe 90 at the most ! Are you drunk ?? And as we all know when shooting steel it starts out at 90 and ends up with maybe two or three LOL !!!

Take care Tim !!! Nick AKA sparky

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 14, 2000 at 07:02:27:

In Reply to: Re: LOCATION??? posted by Nick on May 13, 2000 at 17:26:42:

Well Nick ..... like I suggested before, if you can hit a standing chuck at 200 yds. or a running chuck @100 yds. you can pretty well hit anything large game at any distance and any condition. You should try it, they run fast, and for a very short distance unlike you billboard giving you a 200yd exposure enabling you to empty your mag. :-)

Besides there are people/landowners out there that hate chucks but would never let you hunt deer.

I understand you hunt alot of waterfowl .... well sure it's easy .... anyone can hit a bird at 50yds when you shot 300 pellets at the same time ... :-) Try a real man's sport and use a single projectile and hit something smaller at 200yds. (smerkish grin.....)

Stay Safe , Tack

Canadian hunters, dont feel alone

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Posted by Phil on May 14, 2000 at 00:16:33:

Well, it seems to finally be happening. The gun ban movement is gaining momentum at a frantic pace here in the US. I live in northern Minnesota, so I like to check up on what you Canadian guys are doing once in a while. We will not give up without a fight, but I fear this may be our last stand. We will know on November 8, 2001. They are marching in Washington D.C. this weekend for a law to have all gun owners be photographed, fingerprinted, and taxed every five years. I thought this could never happen in America, but then again I thought it could never happen in a country as nice as Canada (I really like Canada, except for the FAR left politics of the Federal government. You seem to have a great culture up there, none of the urban problems that plauge the U.S.) Just had to drop a line to let you know that you are not alone in being persecuted by your government for owning a gun.

Re: Hunting the sandhills

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Posted by Mark Maloney on May 13, 2000 at 21:27:12:

In Reply to: Hunting the sandhills posted by Eric on September 13, 1999 at 22:35:24:

I have 840 acres for hunting lease on niobrara river in cherry co.

NICK GO EASY ON MY LAKE AND MY GEESE

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Posted by chessy on May 13, 2000 at 20:47:08:

In Reply to: Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Nick on May 13, 2000 at 17:23:56:

DONT GET TO FRIENDLY WITH THE ENEMY

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by roho on May 13, 2000 at 17:56:42:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

Hi hitman I am from hamilton area, hunt deer+turkeys in flamborough tsp, deer in parry sound +moose in timmins

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Nick on May 13, 2000 at 17:26:42:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

You know where I am Hitman !! Peterborough plus I hunt in the Peterborough area for waterfowl and deer as well as in the Bancroft area for deer. Tack can't shoot anything other than a chuck as the deer run to fast for him !!!! LOL

Sparky

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Nick on May 13, 2000 at 17:23:56:

In Reply to: Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Braden on May 11, 2000 at 12:23:47:

Braden..... the geese are coming the geese are coming ! You bet on the early season ! The fields will not be cut but there should be a lot of geese on the lake for sure !

Nick AKA Sparky

Re: Law and order

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Posted by Kevin on May 13, 2000 at 11:37:41:

In Reply to: Re: Law and order posted by Kevin on May 13, 2000 at 10:34:31:

I see I better start running these posts through a spell checker!

Re: Law and order

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Posted by Kevin on May 13, 2000 at 10:34:31:

In Reply to: Re: Law and order posted by Tackleberry on May 13, 2000 at 08:50:13:

Tack; What might put your nose out of joint will be the imposed ban on all civilian owned firearms.The United Nations has already decided that you sholuldn`t possess firearms and the quicker you can get yours registered the closer you will be to losing them.Civil disobedience is what changes garbage legislation unless your still of the opinion that it won`t happen here.

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 13, 2000 at 08:58:53:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

I'm in Guelph, "a southern shot", can't talk long thou, we're getting into chuck season and those little critters are running everywhere.

I hunted moose in Halihurtan Forest for four years and now reloating towards Ottawa (for moose thart is), ans deer central ON.

Also busy as an instructor for CFSC/CRFSC attempting to make a differance in OUR sport.

Stay Safe Tack

Re: Law and order

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 13, 2000 at 08:50:13:

In Reply to: Law and order posted by Kevin on May 11, 2000 at 21:21:04:

Well Kevin, yes some laws are written in a manner that an "inturpretation" is possible, however, I don't think the word "prohibited" could have this problem.

L & O at what expense???? , well don't be confused on this one Bill C-17 was MORE than enough legistlation for this country. I am a shooter and hunter with great passion, I'm also being screwed around by these laws. That said I guess I have enough restricted ones in my name a couple non's won't put my nose out of joint. That dosn't mean I support the idea. It just means you won't see me revolting by non-compliance. After all when you have a badge in your pocket (and take that seriously) you pick and choose your battles very carefully. With these laws specifically, the way they are written, civil disobediance will do nothing but get you a criminal record and all your firearms confiscatred as well as a ban on owning or possessing them.

For the cost..... they already "had" a system showing who is licenced, they just had to update it and require those with firearms to maintain a licence. Instead of reinventing the wheel. The notion of "now cops will know if there is firearms in the house" is bogus........ any and I mean any cop worth his salt will always assume there are.

The long and short of it is I'm sitting here shaking my head in disbelief just as much as the next guy. We have to stop electing parties into government that "know better than the rest of society because of "our special position" and will protect everyone". Arrogance is not the best attributes of a politician.

Stay Safe , Tack

Re: LOCATION???

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Posted by Kevin on May 12, 2000 at 23:48:04:

In Reply to: LOCATION??? posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

Hitman; I`m in Sault Ste. Marie and hunt Algoma.

Hunt Algoma

LOCATION???

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Posted by Hitman on May 12, 2000 at 23:17:32:

So where are all of you guys from and where do you do most of your hunting?

Hitman

Re: e-collars dealers

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Posted by Kevin on May 12, 2000 at 22:58:26:

In Reply to: e-collars dealers posted by Dave on May 12, 2000 at 18:49:09:

1. A Pet Lovers Warehouse LTD Brandon, Manitoba,

Phone: (800)486-6193

Products available. 2. Canvasback Pet Supplies Selkirk, Manitoba,

Phone: (800)889-6191

Products and accessories available. 3. Collars Canada Calgary, Alberta,

Phone: (403)282-5096 fax: (403) 282-8605

Email: peoldale@telusplanet.net Products and accessories available. 4. D. Londero Sports, Inc. St. Jean Sur Richelieu, Quebec,

Phone: (514)347-5257

Products available. 5. Pro Choice Pet Food and Supplies Ltd. New Market, Ontario,

Phone: (800)616-3663

Products available. 6. Etch-Marc, Inc. La Salle, Manitoba,

Phone: (204) 736-3012 fax: (204) 736-9241

Products available. 7. Granlund Firearms Campbell River, BC,

Phone: (250) 286-9996 fax: (250) 86-1817

Products available. 8. Guard Dog Security 30 Gunns Rd. Ste. 211 Toronto, Ontario,

Phone: (905) 882-5511 fax: (416) 763-8804

Products available. 9. Whistling Wing Outfitter Cold Lake, Alberta,

Phone:

Products available. 10. Magasin Latulippe, Inc. Quebec City, Quebec,

Phone: (418) 529-0024 fax: (48) 529-6381

Email: bureau@latulippe.com Products available. 11. Trans Canada Pet Boundaries 7042 Old Kirby School Rd. Orono, Ontario,

Phone: (905) 983-3647 fax: (905) 983-5459

Email: kendal@1direct.com Products available. 12. The Zinger Winger Company Milton, Ontario,

Phone: (905) 876-0603 fax: (905) 876-3360

Products available. back

e-collars dealers

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Posted by Dave on May 12, 2000 at 18:49:09:

I`m looking to buy a tri-tronics e-collar for my high engery lab, anyone know of a dealer in Canada ?? I`m looking at purchasing the Flyway model.

Thanks

Re: Any Bird Doggers out there?

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Posted by Kevin on May 12, 2000 at 14:33:50:

In Reply to: Re: Any Bird Doggers out there? posted by Fischer on May 12, 2000 at 13:03:51:

I`m on my second dog now, my first was trained to do blind retrieves as will that yellow lab in the picture. A collar is worth their weight in gold and repetition is the secret.A half hour of training every night is better than four hours every weekend.There are lots of good training videos out there as well.

Re: Any Bird Doggers out there?

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Posted by Fischer on May 12, 2000 at 13:03:51:

In Reply to: Re: Any Bird Doggers out there? posted by Kevin on May 12, 2000 at 12:28:48:

Thanks, Kevin. I'm really a neophyte, so any tips are appreciated.

I'm also learning that this is going to be a sizable undertaking, time-wise and monetarily. With my son off to College in the fall, I guess I'll have to cut back on any new guns or fishin' rods. Luckily, I've managed to stockpile enough of both without my wife knowing. ;)

Re: Any Bird Doggers out there?

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Posted by Kevin on May 12, 2000 at 12:28:48:

In Reply to: Any Bird Doggers out there? posted by Fischer on May 12, 2000 at 11:49:46:

Fischer; If you don`t have an electric collar you might consider buying one, they are a great tool for training a dog if used properly.

Any Bird Doggers out there?

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Posted by Fischer on May 12, 2000 at 11:49:46:

I am seriously considering getting a bird dog. This will be my first. I've done quite a bit of searching, and have settled on the Brittany Spaniel.

I haven't got a dog, yet, but was wondering if there are any bird doggers in the K-W, Cambridge, Guelph area who would be interested in working the dogs together.

E-mail me, please.

moose hunting

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Posted by dan eckelberg on May 12, 2000 at 11:21:14:

any open moose hunting dates in 2000

moose hunting

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Posted by Dan on May 12, 2000 at 11:04:16:

does anyone know of any open moose hunts in 2000

Law and order

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Posted by Kevin on May 11, 2000 at 21:21:04:

In Reply to: Re: Toy Guns Confiscated posted by Tackleberry on May 11, 2000 at 16:24:40:

Now Tack; That can be confusing because the laws are interpreted differently by different people at different times.Law and order at what expense? I don`t care what colour the gun is, if some idiot adult wants to point it at a cop or anyone else for that matter they should be considered a threat and dealt with accordingly. This is a hunting forum but it`s difficult to avoid discussion such as this when our judicial system is in the garbage.

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Braden on May 11, 2000 at 19:27:11:

In Reply to: Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Kern on May 11, 2000 at 14:09:22:

Kern Between myself and Angelo, we have about 100 decoys, varying between divers puddlers and geese. Usually I just throw em out willy nilly on opening day, after that I use small groups of puddlers spread out. For divers we run about 50 birds in a V formation.

Braden

******DECOYS - READ THIS**********

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Posted by Hitman on May 11, 2000 at 17:09:11:

Gentlemen:

Jerry Gagnon owner of Gagnon's is a friend of mine. Also, I know the owner of a large hunt/fish store in Belleville. Maybe we should consider placing a large order and trying to save some money. Gagnon's carrys mainly Carry-lites and Quinte Outdoor Sports in Belleville has mainly Flambeau. Let me know what you are kind you want and I can check it out. We could get them quite a bit cheaper I'm sure. We would have to order them by the dozen, which I am sure would not be a problem. I have a bunch of buddies that I will check with as well and maybe we could come up with an order for 10 or so dozen. Get back to me with what you want.

Hitman

Re: Toy Guns Confiscated

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 11, 2000 at 16:24:40:

In Reply to: Toy Guns Confiscated posted by Shooter on May 10, 2000 at 10:42:41:

Replicas...........

Surprise, Surprise ......

C68 has a section, unable to quote the section right now, that prohibits the sale/aquisition of such ideams. At one of the Instructor conferences there was a seminar on "deactivation/replicas". The speaker was the RCMP Chief Forensics Officer. He said the law brought in was specifically targeted to curb the use of replicas in crime. The topic was there because many CFSC Instructors were thinking of using replica handguns if they didn't already have real ones.

It is not illegal to own a replica firearm, now, as long as you aquired it prior to C68 and can prove it. (kind of like grandfathering them so to speak) That must be why they went to the store.

A replica firearm is "designed to look and function as a real firearm would" .

So water guns are not on the list, ....... On that note a few years ago I attended a Street Survival Seminar for Police Officers in the States, they showed us a slide of a Mac10 complete with magazine. It was painted florecent green, in hopes that the officer they went up against might hesitate and not see it as a threat.

P.S. Hey guys I'm one of you, but I also work on the side of law and order. let's not get carried away with all of the comments.......Tack

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Kern on May 11, 2000 at 14:09:22:

In Reply to: Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Braden on May 11, 2000 at 12:23:47:

Yes Braden, September 5th has been marked on my calander since February. I wouldnt save that shopping trip for Sept though, by September decoy are literally flying off the shelves at Gagnons. Are you already set up with decs?? What kinda spread do you do in the early season before the birds are decoy shy??

Re: Toy Guns Confiscated

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Posted by Stephen on May 11, 2000 at 12:38:45:

In Reply to: Re: Toy Guns Confiscated posted by TC on May 11, 2000 at 11:03:32:

It must be part of daycare training or something. a couple of years ago when my daughter was 4 she came home talking about how bad it was to hunt and kill deer (aka bambi). It took a lot of talking before she saw the other side. She's now 6 and keeps asking to go hunting with me. I'll defer until she is 8, but always let her help with the cleaning of the birds in the garage. It takes a lot to have a parent pass on their traditions to their children.

Mind you her day care decided this week to ban Pokeman cards because of the Occult undertones!

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Hitman on May 11, 2000 at 12:27:30:

In Reply to: Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Kevin on May 11, 2000 at 07:32:37:

Don't have the patience and would probably cut my finger off. I do have some wooden blocks I use, but a full rig of 75 divers would be too heavy anyways. The certainly look good on the water and are fun to hunt over though. I may eventually carve some.

Hitman

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Hitman on May 11, 2000 at 12:24:43:

In Reply to: Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Kern on May 11, 2000 at 08:41:44:

Kern:

I like Herter's burlap decoys or similar the best. They look the best, ride the best and are very very rugged. Carry-lite decoys paint flakes of as soon as you touch them. The old style Flambeau looked brutal. The shape and the paint suck. The new ones don't look too bad and the price is right. I think the paint is probably better, but I don't like the bluebill style. I have approximately 200 blocks know, mainly Carry-lites. G+H are really popular in the states but harder to find up here. You set up a rig of Herter's or Fowl Foolers or something similar beside a rig of Carrylite or Flambeau and you will see what I mean. The ducks may not care too much, but I do.

Hitman

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Braden on May 11, 2000 at 12:23:47:

In Reply to: Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Kern on May 11, 2000 at 08:41:44:

Kern, the paint ain't so good, and they are usually water keels. When you buy decoys in the fall, make sure you pay the extra couple bucks for weighted keels, they weigh more but are well worth it. Better yet, If you want we'll go together, Nick and I where talking about the early goose hunt on the 5th sept. I am assuming you will come also? We could fire over to Gagnons at lunchtime.

Braden

Re: Toy Guns Confiscated

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Posted by TC on May 11, 2000 at 11:03:32:

In Reply to: Toy Guns Confiscated posted by Shooter on May 10, 2000 at 10:42:41:

My 3 year old son has a toy plastic gun that he likes to wear around the house in a holster and pretend he's a cowboy. A few weeks ago he screamed bloody murder one morning when I tried to take it off of him to take him to his daycare so I just let him keep it figuring it was no big deal. About one minute in the door one of the ladies took it away from him (which made him scream), put it up on a shelf and told me that such things were inappropriate and NEVER to bring anything like that with him again. As I left, I thought to myself how ridiculous things have become and wondered if my son will ever get the chance the chance to enjoy guns or hunting by the time he grows up.......I doubt it.I,myself,played constantly with toy guns while growing up as I'm sure many people reading this board did and we didn't turn into criminals. The reason was we had parents to teach us right from wrong and how to responsibly treat guns.....TC

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Kern on May 11, 2000 at 08:41:44:

In Reply to: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Hitman on May 11, 2000 at 00:54:49:

Hi Hitman, Just wondering why you dont want any Flambeau's? Im a little new to the decoy game and recently dropped some coin on my first batch of field Geese decoys. Had a great time with them and wonder why it took me so long to try decoys. This fall I plan to try the same for ducks and as Flambeau is the most common decoy I see around here, I imagine most of my duck spread will be Flambeau as well.

Thanks

Re: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Kevin on May 11, 2000 at 07:32:37:

In Reply to: DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Hitman on May 11, 2000 at 00:54:49:

Hitman; Have you ever tried carving a decoy? I watched a guy go to work on a cedar block just a few weeks ago and I was surprised at just how fast he could turn a block of wood into a duck.

DECOYS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Hitman on May 11, 2000 at 00:54:49:

I am looking for G+H decoys or Herter's or similar style decoys. Not Carry lites or Flambeau's. Any quantity or species. Send me an email if you have some you want to part with. Also want field goose decoys, any style. Will consider trading a good hunt for decoys depending on quantity/quality or will buy outright.

Thanks a bunch, Hitman bmason@kawartha.com www.chesapeakewaterfowlers.homestead.com

Toy guns were seized with no law on the books, How long before they come after ours? JUST A MATTER OF TIME!!

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Posted by WEST on May 10, 2000 at 23:09:05:

In Reply to: Toy Guns Confiscated posted by Shooter on May 10, 2000 at 10:42:41:

A harsh reality, and one that I fear more and more with each passing day!!

Regards, WEST

Toy guns were seized with no law on the books, How long before they come after ours? IT WILL HAPPEN!

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Posted by WEST on May 10, 2000 at 23:07:20:

In Reply to: Toy Guns Confiscated posted by Shooter on May 10, 2000 at 10:42:41:

Re: Toy Guns Confiscated

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Posted by Stephen on May 10, 2000 at 11:15:17:

In Reply to: Toy Guns Confiscated posted by Shooter on May 10, 2000 at 10:42:41:

The article in the star also mentions that the store was visited one week before the seizure, the shop owners were told about the toys being replicas. At that time the shop removed them from the shelf and stored in boxes in the back.

Toy guns and pink water pistols being confiscated, how am I ever going to hold onto the real ones?

Bear Warning...Thought you guys would like this one...

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Posted by Kern on May 10, 2000 at 11:05:24:

In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear conflicts, the Alberta Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers,hunters and fishermen to take extra precautions and keep alert for bears while in the field. They have advised outdoorsmen to wear noisy little bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren't expecting them. They have also advised outdoorsmen to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper spray

Toy Guns Confiscated

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Posted by Shooter on May 10, 2000 at 10:42:41:

BRAMPTON, ON, May 9 /CNW/ - On Thursday, May 4th, 2000, Peel Regional Police Officers from 11 Division Criminal Investigation Bureau executed a Criminal Code Search Warrant at S & K Toys and Crafts, located at 2525 Hampshire Gate in the City of Oakville. Officers seized approximately 3200 replica firearms that were, in many cases, virtually, indistinguishable from real firearms. This seizure was a result of a one-month investigation into a disturbing and dangerous trend that started in November 1999 involving replica handguns. Police officers from Peel Regional Police have investigated approximately 27 gun-related incidents. "Several of these replica handguns have been identified in school yards and park areas of our Region. They have been observed by citizens and believed to be actual firearms. Police officers have responded appropriately to complaints in which they believed real guns were being used in the commission of criminal offences. Front-line uniform police officers are frequently having their personal safety and well being of the citizens they protect compromised by the presence of these replica firearms in numerous situations. I have serious concerns about the proliferation of this problem in our Region," said Chief Noel P. Catney.

Re: Turkey Course for Next Year

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Posted by Kern on May 09, 2000 at 20:46:39:

In Reply to: Turkey Course for Next Year posted by Dave on May 09, 2000 at 07:13:26:

Hi Dave...just follow the link at the top of the page for the OFAH. They post al the when and where's for turkey courses. good luck

Re: new here!!

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Posted by Kern on May 09, 2000 at 20:44:08:

In Reply to: new here!! posted by Hitman on May 09, 2000 at 04:41:28:

Hi Hitman, welcome to the board

Re: new here!!

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Posted by Nick on May 09, 2000 at 19:49:49:

In Reply to: new here!! posted by Hitman on May 09, 2000 at 04:41:28:

Welcome Hitman !! Meet you in the near future !

Nick AKA Sparky

Re: Turkey Course for Next Year

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Posted by Hitman on May 09, 2000 at 12:20:12:

In Reply to: Turkey Course for Next Year posted by Dave on May 09, 2000 at 07:13:26:

Call the OFAH. 705 748 6324 They are the ones who run it. My buddy is one of the guys who teaches it. I will ask him when they set the schedule for next year.

Had a good season my self. Filled my first tag Opening morning and my second tag the Thursday morning. 16. 4 lb jake and a 18.8 lb tom.

Cheers, Hitman

Turkey Course for Next Year

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Posted by Dave on May 09, 2000 at 07:13:26:

Anyone know where we can sign up for the turkey course? Is there a website we can go to, or do is there someone we should phone? Any help would be appreciated for next year. Thanks.

new here!!

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Posted by Hitman on May 09, 2000 at 04:41:28:

Hey Boys:

Just found this website. Pretty impressive. I live and work in Peterborough. Do a lot of hunting around Trenton/Brighton area. Waterfowl, turkeys, and deer. Run a small guiding business for the same as well. Let me know where you are from.

Hitman

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Posted by WaitSee on May 08, 2000 at 16:01:05:

In Reply to: Secrets... Secrets.... posted by Wait See on April 12, 2000 at 15:19:20:

nooneknows

Re: turkeys+this board

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Posted by Tomm on May 08, 2000 at 13:59:18:

In Reply to: turkeys+this board posted by roho on May 07, 2000 at 19:52:14:

Congratulations Roho! Turkey hunting opened for the first time in my area. I've been out 6 times, heard them and saw 5 deer to date, but no kills yet. Turkey hunting sure grabs you.

Re: NDP, Ha

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Posted by Fischer on May 08, 2000 at 09:17:29:

In Reply to: NDP, Ha posted by Kevin on May 07, 2000 at 09:37:33:

Right on, Kevin.

I'll go to my grave proud in the knowledge that I was amongst the group of brain-dead sheep that elected the Bob Rae gov't!

Re: turkeys+this board

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Posted by Kevin on May 07, 2000 at 22:07:24:

In Reply to: turkeys+this board posted by roho on May 07, 2000 at 19:52:14:

Welcome aboard Roho, congratulations on the turkey.There must be a whack of turkeys out there, everyone seems to be getting them.

turkeys+this board

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Posted by roho on May 07, 2000 at 19:52:14:

just found this board and i like what i see.Bagged my first turkey sat in flamborough, he wasn't big but he was my first 13lbs .I will be back often

NDP, Ha

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Posted by Kevin on May 07, 2000 at 09:37:33:

In Reply to: bleeding heart posted by Alex on May 07, 2000 at 01:59:35:

The NDP are anti hunting anti gun, so are the Liberals and nearly dead federal Conservatives. I couldn`t believe the people in this Sault Ste. Marie Ontario riding would elect an NDP member to represent us at Queen`s Park... the party is dead, the people across the rest of Ontario damn near dropped kicked them out of existence and Sault Ste. Marie decides to elect an NDP candidate. HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE?

Hunting Algoma

bleeding heart

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Posted by Alex on May 07, 2000 at 01:59:35:

As a rural Manitoban, I question the mental capacity of anyone who cast an NDP vote. To date, our new gov't, has attacked the spring bear hunt, "penned" hunting, and sportfishing. Do they understand the ramifications of their actions? Pertaining to "penned" hunting, why the distinction between this and abbatoirs? To harvest an animal in its natural environment as opposed to slaughtering a purpose bred creature, seems illogical at best. Isn't democracy great?!!!

bleeding heart

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Posted by Alex on May 07, 2000 at 01:30:52:

We live in Manitoba. Unfortunately, as Canadians, we live in "a democracy". To date, our NDP gov't has remembered their traditional values; " Need a job? Dig a ditch." Considering their track record, how could any Manitoban with a conscience believe

Another Ontario waterfowl site

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Posted by Kevin on May 06, 2000 at 19:59:50:

In Reply to: New Canadian waterfowl site posted by woodrow on May 06, 2000 at 15:28:31:

Stop by and sign Nick`s guest book.

Nick`s Place

Re: New Canadian waterfowl site

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Posted by Braden on May 06, 2000 at 19:43:55:

In Reply to: New Canadian waterfowl site posted by woodrow on May 06, 2000 at 15:28:31:

URL please, thanx.

Braden

New Canadian waterfowl site

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Posted by woodrow on May 06, 2000 at 15:28:31:

Check out Hoosier Jims duck blind they have just posted an all Canadian duck hunting page specifically for Ontario waterfowl hunters.

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Posted by presboys on May 06, 2000 at 14:44:00:

In Reply to: Secrets... Secrets.... posted by Wait See on April 12, 2000 at 15:19:20:

4a1

LOST/DESTROYED RIFLES

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Posted by Mike on May 06, 2000 at 07:36:18:

I'm trying to locate the whereabouts of the following 3 firearms. A 'friend' now ex-friend, of mine was storing them for me and claims he destroyed them in Oct/Nov 99 because he thought they were illegal which is bull crap! I personally believe he sold them. If you have any of thses firearms in your possesion, please do not hesitate to contact me........i'm not looking to get them back. I have a civil law suit before the courts and the more info I have the better for my case. The rifles in question are as follows: 1) Ruger .22 Carbine - serial #114-91074; 2) Ruger .44 Carbine - serial #127875; & 3) Remington Woodsmaster 742 .30-06 - serial #7386639. Any assistance is appreciated and thanks in advance for your responses. Mike

Re: Fishing and hunting in trouble!

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Posted by philkeppers on May 06, 2000 at 01:27:58:

In Reply to: Re: Fishing and hunting in trouble! posted by Shotgunner on May 03, 2000 at 10:18:40:

The way things are going in the US I wouldnt be suprised if they ban guns here within 5 years

Re: moose & archery

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Posted by Tackleberry on May 06, 2000 at 01:23:48:

In Reply to: moose & archery posted by jeff white on May 03, 2000 at 20:29:26:

Hey Jeff, Where are you located???? My club sponsors seminars every year for just that kind of thing.

Give them a call to see. Colby Shooting Club Waterloo ON 519 746-8139

Good Luck, ...... Practice alot Now! Tack

Send it to who?

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Posted by Kevin on May 05, 2000 at 22:24:41:

In Reply to: Re: Weapon Registry posted by bob on May 05, 2000 at 21:48:54:

There`s a Justice Minister? Canada is the best country to live in, there`s no crime, why do we need a Justice Minister?

Re: Weapon Registry

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Posted by bob on May 05, 2000 at 21:48:54:

In Reply to: Weapon Registry posted by BiG Bird on May 05, 2000 at 21:03:15:

send it to the Justice Minister. be prepared to be ignored!

Weapon Registry

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Posted by BiG Bird on May 05, 2000 at 21:03:15:

I have heard that after the Fed's have the gun registry in place that there will be a registry for cutlery. It seems that the second most commonly used weapon in offensive crimes is a knife. The plan is to have all Canadians submit to a compulsary coarse and test to improve their knowledge of the proper ediquit in the use of cutlery, the safe handling, and the storage of knives. They would also be subjected to seven page questionaire requiring answers to their past. (eg question: Have you carved a turkey while their mother-in-law watched.Or: Do you eat with your elbows on the table) Of coarse you wil be required to register your cutlery. This would be a five year phase in program. Regisrtation fees increasing annually as an incentive for early registation. If you are to sell , borrow or loan you would be required to submitt transfer documentation to the central registry office. Currently the only opposition is from the Canadian Resturant Association. This program however has the endorsment of Kentucky Fried Chicken who are active members in the Resturant organization. (finger licking good)

Note : Had a little idle time, just thought I ridicule the fire arms registry.

Weapon Registry

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Posted by BiG Bird on May 05, 2000 at 20:51:07:

I have heard that after the Fed's have the gun registry in place that there will be a registry for cutlery. It seems that the second most commonly used weapon in offensive crimes is a knife. The plan is to have all Canadians submit to a compulsary coarse and test to improve their knowledge of the proper ediquit in the use of cutlery, the safe handling, and the storage of knives. They would also be subjected to seven page questionaire requiring answers to there past. (eg question have you carved a turkey while their mother-in-law watched.or do you eat with your elbows on the table) Of coarse you wil be required to register your cutlery. This would be a program that would phase in the registry of cutlery over five years with regisrtation fees increasing annually. If you are to sell , borrow or loan you would be required to submitt transfer documentation to the central registry office. This program has the endorsment of Kentucky Fried Chicken (finger licking good)

Note : Had a little idle time, just thought I ridicule the fire arms registry.

Re: FAQ to C.O.

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Posted by Andy on May 05, 2000 at 15:50:05:

In Reply to: FAQ to C.O. posted by Alaim on May 05, 2000 at 14:19:09:

Seems staff at MNR are bogged down at the moment. I am awaiting replies to the last set of questions submitted. I will have them posted as soon as I get a response. My apologies.

FAQ to C.O.

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Posted by Alaim on May 05, 2000 at 14:19:09:

Does anyone know why no new questions/answers have been loged on the ASK the C.O.since March 01,2000?? Is this site closed for the season?? or is it because know one has asked any new questions.I find it an interestiung site look up!!

Re: Looking for a gunsmith

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Posted by Braden on May 03, 2000 at 22:22:58:

In Reply to: Re: Looking for a gunsmith posted by jason whyte on May 03, 2000 at 20:57:56:

I will heartily agree with Jason on that recomendation!! Keith Long is an excellent gunsmith, and he is always straight forward. I have tried to deal with Precision Arms in King City (my hometown) but the smith would rather spit on you than talk to you, and the wait is pretty much always 6-8 weeks minimal, although his wife is very friendly. Longs guns is always worth the drive, and if you stick around and chat for a while, you usually pick up some very good info.

Braden

Re: Looking for a gunsmith

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Posted by jason whyte on May 03, 2000 at 20:57:56:

In Reply to: Looking for a gunsmith posted by Stephen on May 03, 2000 at 15:42:45:

try keith long he is in cobourg ontario 60 miles east of to give him a call first to see if in stock 1 905 372 5955 he is the warrenty dealler for browning winchester mossberg ect.. good luck jason

moose & archery

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Posted by jeff white on May 03, 2000 at 20:29:26:

new to the sport of moose hunting. going north in the fall with the bows and was looking for a little advice as to a good method to approach this hunt. Any advice would be appreciated thanks

moose & archery

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Posted by jeff white on May 03, 2000 at 20:28:53:

new to the sport of moose hunting. going north in the fall with the bows and was looking for a little advice as to a good method to approach this hunt. Any advice would be appreciated thanks

Looking for a gunsmith

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Posted by Stephen on May 03, 2000 at 15:42:45:

Any recommendations on a gunsmith in york region? I have an old stevens 22-410 that needs the stock repaired.

April Update - The 303 Page

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on May 03, 2000 at 10:48:15:

April brings...

303 British Cartridge Specifications & Chronology.

Brian Fisher sent a picture of his 5 round magazine, shown installed on a rifle.

For people that want something a little different... would you like a 375/303?

Hawk Precision offers 180 & 215 grain bullets - custom weights and types as well. With a 4 or 5 box order, the price is the same as their regular .311s. More info is listed under 215 Grain Loads.

If you are looking for an owner's manual for your No 4, the Maintenance & Repair Guide.

Shooting the 303 British - commercial & military loads -, wildcats based on the 303 British, reloading data, shooting tips & tricks, more.

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303British.com

Re: Fishing and hunting in trouble!

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Posted by Shotgunner on May 03, 2000 at 10:18:40:

In Reply to: Fishing and hunting in trouble! posted by Bob on May 02, 2000 at 21:14:27:

I bet 5 years from now, there will be no guns and no hunting in Canada!! Every day with Canadian politions, Canada become more and more like a prison. Who are they to say that we have to register our guns!! As you can see this subject really pi$$es me off!! And i can see myself moving to the US to get away fromm it!!

Fishing and hunting in trouble!

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Posted by Bob on May 02, 2000 at 21:14:27:

Legal analysis of the reworked animal cruelty laws contained within Bill C-17 reveals that animals are about to gain virtually the same rights as people. And, despite assurances from the Canadian government, concern over the proposed laws continues to grow.

Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters’ (O.F.A.H.) lawyers representing hunters, anglers, trappers, food producers and medical researchers met with federal government lawyers who deny there is anything wrong with the bill. The denials come despite the vague and ambiguous wording of the proposed laws that throw the door wide open for animal rights groups to challenge such mundane practices as angling with live bait, raising livestock or conducting important medical research.

"It’s no secret that the animal rights movement is opposed to hunting, angling and trapping and, in some cases, even eating meat," said Dr. Terry Quinney, O.F.A.H. Provincial Coordinator of Fish and Wildlife.

A Canadian animal rights lobby grou recently stated on its web site that Bill C-17 was "revolutionary" and implied that it is a stepping stone to attack what it calls "institutional cruelty." And, in the Lawyer’s Weekly newspaper, a lawyer reviewing Bill C-17 wrote "animals are poised for their own emancipation under Canadian law."

O.F.A.H. lawyer Peter Danson points out that, historically, the criminal code provides protection to domestic animals. Such protection does not include fish and wildlife from one end of the food chain to the other as Bill C-17 now proposes.

The real problem is that the move creates an important stepping stone for the animal rights agenda. Bill C-17 changes the criminal code from protecting animals' welfare to giving animals' rights. It is on the basis that animals feel pain that animal rights activists claim animals deserve the same rights as people. This bill is an animal rights wolf in sheep's clothing, said Danson.

Clearly stating the animal rights agenda involving C-17, Joyce Tischler, Executive Director of the Animal Legal Defense Fund states, "elevating the status of animals from property to person will be a step-by-step process involving litigation, legislation and public education."

"If the government’s goal is to strengthen animal cruelty laws, there needs to be explicit wording that recognizes existing, legitimate and necessary use of animals," Quinney said.

After all, 90 percent of Canadians eat meat, millions of people hunt and fish and, despite government assurances to the contrary, we do not want to open the door to frivolous, costly and damaging court challenges by the radical animal rights movement, Quinney concluded.

For more information about Bill C-17 and the concerns around it, please contact Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters Communications Specialist Mark Holmes at 705-748-6324, fax to 705-748-9577, or e-mail ofah@ofah.org

It`s a done deal

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Posted by Kevin on May 02, 2000 at 18:49:47:

In Reply to: Here`s a bit of news posted by Kevin on May 02, 2000 at 18:36:46:

They removed it!

Here`s a bit of news

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Posted by Kevin on May 02, 2000 at 18:36:46:

An article in todays paper says Clinton signed an order removing the jamming on GPS signals worldwide. According to the article, handheld GPS devices will be 10 times more accurate with the jamming removed. The article wasn't entirely clear, but said the changeover will take place at 6pm tonight. *Reposted from Posse Country.

Re: ticks

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Posted by steve on May 01, 2000 at 20:21:44:

In Reply to: ticks posted by Shooter on April 30, 2000 at 19:34:31:

I agree the moose numbers should be reduced south of the french the deer are being pushed out steadily. m.n.r. tells us the numbers are rebounding after the couple bad winters but all we see is moose sign. try gettin a tag south of the french.

Re: turkey hunting

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Posted by steve on May 01, 2000 at 17:31:26:

In Reply to: turkey hunting posted by bowhunter on May 01, 2000 at 09:46:34:

I took won friday two came in double gobbling i took the smaller one 7 kilos the bigger one wouldn't offer a good shot and the smaller one was gettin suspicious.

Re: turkey hunting

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Posted by HARVIE on May 01, 2000 at 13:37:18:

In Reply to: turkey hunting posted by bowhunter on May 01, 2000 at 09:46:34:

Let you know after next weekend. Going down to Prince Edward County, it will be my first turkey hunt. I guess I am still a virgin.

Re: Benelli Nova

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Posted by Nick Pientka on May 01, 2000 at 12:09:38:

In Reply to: Benelli Nova posted by Shotgunner on September 18, 1999 at 14:16:37:

I bought mine for about $350 or so on sale at a Rusty's near where i live.

turkey hunting

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Posted by bowhunter on May 01, 2000 at 09:46:34:

Anybody managed to bag a tom yet. Was out Saturday, my two hunting buddies each nailed thier first birds. They were 18.5 and 17.9 lb. mature toms. I was not as fortunate, but did manage to indulge myself on my first ever wild turkey dinner. Excellant table fair. They look a little different in the roast pan, but taste very much like a domestic bird only better. Sure hope I get a chance at one this spring.

Re: Remington 742 any comments

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Posted by Stephen on May 01, 2000 at 07:36:26:

In Reply to: Remington 742 any comments posted by Stephen on April 27, 2000 at 12:25:26:

To all, Thanks for the help.

PS. I did buy the gun.

ticks

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Posted by Shooter on April 30, 2000 at 19:34:31:

In Reply to: Re: I`m starting a rumor posted by jason on April 28, 2000 at 13:04:29:

ticks can be a problem in traditional moose areas of northern ontario. Ticks are definitely a prob for moose below the french/mattawa line, which is traditional whitetail country. Moose and deer dont fair well in co-habitation.

Personally.... open up the moose tags in southern ontario and keep the moose numbers down, let the deer come back up

Shooter

Re: Remington 742 any comments

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Posted by Shooter on April 30, 2000 at 19:23:53:

In Reply to: Remington 742 any comments posted by Stephen on April 27, 2000 at 12:25:26:

Had a 742 woodmaster form '75 thru '93. 308 Cal. I heard about the lug lock problem but never personally experienced it myself. I had a prob with 3rd shell jams but prob was in the clip. A little modification and bending to the clips pick up line and prob was solved.

Shot many moose and deer with the 180 gr ammo. Good tight kill groups at 100 yards. Effective to 300 if you know your ballistics. Recoil was excellent! (minimal)

I sold mine in '95 with Bushnel variable 1.5 to 4, soft case and box of ammo for $425. I had come across a newer 7400 30.06 carbine which i had been looking for. I tend to hunt the deep brush edges and tight marshes for moose and deer now and wanted the carbine for faster swinging ability. (PS: It works great!!!!) Bought a Savage 300 mag as a backup to the carbine should i happen to be watching over a field or open marshed area.

Dont be shy of the 742, all is repairable if you get the lug prob. Just dont pay too much.

Shooter

Re: Varmint Guns

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Posted by Kevin on April 29, 2000 at 06:51:29:

In Reply to: Varmit Guns posted by Wigster on April 28, 2000 at 20:41:32:

Anything from .17 Remington to any of the .22 centerfires.It depends more on the distance you`ll be shooting,the area you`ll be hunting and whether you`ll be saving the hide of that coyote you shoot.

Re: Remington 742 any comments

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Posted by Morris on April 29, 2000 at 01:32:23:

In Reply to: Remington 742 any comments posted by Stephen on April 27, 2000 at 12:25:26:

I currently own a 742 in .30-06, and three years agofired one shot at a buck and missed, went to pull the trigger and nothing. the extractor broke. But if foul language could kill he'd be dinner, cause he just stood there and looked at me while i spewed a stream.

Anyway, the guns been great to me but it has to be thoroughly clean every time it is fired(guys at gangons)and must be watch for wear on the rotating lugs. This is a problem in the 742's which was corrected in the 7400's.

All i can say is that i bought mine, a good deal, and its got me 5 deer.

Good luck and good hunting

Varmit Guns

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Posted by Wigster on April 28, 2000 at 20:41:32:

What caliber is best for varmits from coyote to starlings?

you said a mouth full there

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Posted by jason on April 28, 2000 at 19:29:42:

THE ONTARIO GOV WHAT A JOKE GOOD LUCK

Re: I`m starting a rumor

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Posted by Kevin on April 28, 2000 at 18:10:27:

In Reply to: Re: I`m starting a rumor posted by jason on April 28, 2000 at 17:46:16:

Jason; I would think that it`s probably due to more than just the bears as I mentioned in my other post but like the Ontario government I have no scientific proof.

LOOKING FOR A BEAGLE

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Posted by jason on April 28, 2000 at 17:49:09:

LOOKING FOR A BEAGLE THAT RUNS DEER THANKS JASON

Re: I`m starting a rumor

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Posted by jason on April 28, 2000 at 17:46:16:

In Reply to: Re: I`m starting a rumor posted by TDC on April 28, 2000 at 16:46:05:

not wanting to fight but do you really think one year can make that kind of difference dont get me wrong what they did is bull but one year does not make a big diff they still shot alot of adult bears last year they had alonger season and i know they shot bears north of berries bay i know i hunt in algonquin park and there are alot of bears and moose there our tags went from 2 garrented to 4 for a party hunt

Re: I`m starting a rumor

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Posted by TDC on April 28, 2000 at 16:46:05:

In Reply to: I`m starting a rumor posted by Kevin on April 28, 2000 at 07:44:43:

Kevin,just think if one of those surviving bears gets hold of a GPS.....there won't be any moose left!!!....Terry

Re: Remington 742 any comments

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Posted by TDC on April 28, 2000 at 16:38:27:

In Reply to: Remington 742 any comments posted by Stephen on April 27, 2000 at 12:25:26:

My cousin had a 742 in .308 that jammed every 3rd or 4th shot....took it apart for a good cleaning and it still did it so he traded it. If you really have your heart set on an autoloader go Browning BAR. Much better gun(although they are more expensive)........TDC

Telephone numbers

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Posted by Andy on April 28, 2000 at 15:30:29:

From MNR:

IMPORTANT TELEPHONE NUMBERS AND DATES FOR ONTARIO'S HUNTERS

General Inquiry Numbers Telephone Numbers Ministry of Natural Resource general inquiry line: 1-800-667-1940 (French 1-800-667-1840) In Toronto: (416) 314-2000 Or elsewhere: (705) 755-2000

Outdoors Card Centre - lost or stolen cards, address changes and general card inquires: 1-800-387-7011

Automated Licensing Systems * Telephone Numbers Outdoors Card renewal line (runs all year): 1-800-288-1155 Turkey telephone licensing system (available March 1 to April 30): 1-800-288-1155 Antlerless deer licensing and draw application system (June 15 to July 31): 1-800-288-1155

* Please note these are automated systems and you must enter information using your telephone key pad or rotary dial.

Draw Results Lines Telephone Numbers Moose draw results line (available August 1): 1-800-275-6657 Antlerless deer draw results line (available September 8): 1-800-275-6657 Controlled deer draw results line (available October 15): 1-800-275-6657

Other Important Telephone Numbers Banded Birds Reporting Line: 1-800-327-2263 Canadian Wildlife Service (waterfowl seasons): (519) 826-2100 Federal Firearms Legislation: 1-800-731-4000 Non-Toxic Shot Information Line: 1-800-267-5171

Crime Stoppers (report a poacher Canada-wide): 1-800-222-TIPS (8477) Forest Fires in the 705 area code (north of the French/Mattawa rivers): 1-888-863-FIRE (3473) Forest Fires in the 807 area code (Northwestern Ontario): 1-888-284-FIRE (3473)

Premier's Symposium on North America's Hunting Heritage: 1-888-720-1960 or (705) 755-4000 Publications Ontario: 1-800-668-9938 or (416) 326-5300 Hats for Hides: 1-888-873-3319

Important Dates for Hunters Small game licences available all year

Turkey telephone licensing system (available March 1 to April 30): 1-800-288-1155 Turkey licences available in MNR district and area offices March 15

Year 2000-01 hunting regulations summary to the field and issuers April 15

Moose licences and adult validation tag applications available April 15 Moose validation tag draw deadline May 15 Moose validation tag draw results line opens August 1 English: 1-800-275-6657 French: 1-800-222-9784 Moose surplus tag line operation from 5:00 - 9:00p.m. (EDT) August 21 to August 22: 1-800-363-3730

Black bear licences available June 15

Resident's and farmer's deer licences available June 15 Antlerless deer licensing and draw application line (available June 15 to July 31): 1-800-288-1155 Antlerless deer validation tag draw deadline July 31 Antlerless deer validation tag draw results line Sept. 8 English: 1-800-275-6657 French: 1-800-222-9784

Controlled deer draw applications available August 1 Controlled deer draw application deadline August 31 Controlled deer draw results line available October 15 English: 1-800-275-6657 French: 1-800-222-9784

Re: I`m starting a rumor

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Posted by Kevin on April 28, 2000 at 14:42:52:

In Reply to: Re: I`m starting a rumor posted by jason on April 28, 2000 at 13:04:29:

Jason; Don`t be too quick to rule out predation by bears, moose calves are one of their favorite foods.Unregulated hunting by Indians and poachers would be another valid reason, ticks, there have always been ticks and dry summers cause a decrease in insects which should be a benefit to the moose population.

Re: I`m starting a rumor

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Posted by jason on April 28, 2000 at 13:04:29:

In Reply to: I`m starting a rumor posted by Kevin on April 28, 2000 at 07:44:43:

i myself think it has got to do with the tick? and the dry summers we have been having i would like to here from the rest of you serious moose hunters to see what you think as well

I`m starting a rumor

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Posted by Kevin on April 28, 2000 at 07:44:43:

The allocation of Ontario moose tags had to be reduced this year due to the unnatural and excessive predation of moose calves which is directly related to the over abundance of black bear in Ontario that stems from the ban of the spring bear hunt initiated by Mike Harris.

Re: Remington 742 any comments

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Posted by DEER SLAYER on April 28, 2000 at 06:55:16:

In Reply to: Re: Remington 742 any comments posted by Kicker on April 27, 2000 at 13:05:11:

I also had a 742 in 30.06 and it was great.......never had a problem with it.......unforturnately I loaned to a friend & he f****d me by claiming it was stolen with no proof.......i'm currently fighting him in small claims court for a replacement or cash settlement.........needless to say, the a$$hole is no longer a friend!!!!!!!!!!

Re: I just about died!

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Posted by wigster on April 27, 2000 at 16:22:42:

In Reply to: I just about died! posted by Kevin on April 22, 2000 at 20:59:45:

So you can hunt moose right out of your living room now, sitting on the couch watching tv with a GPS in you other hand!!!!!!

Re: Remington 742 any comments

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Posted by Kicker on April 27, 2000 at 13:05:11:

In Reply to: Remington 742 any comments posted by Stephen on April 27, 2000 at 12:25:26:

I had the same model in a 30-06 and it too was "in excellent shape" ... until it "big time jammed" for the first time ... while 2 deer were prancing about in front of me!

The bolt had worn in the area of the "lugs" and wasn't retracting/aligning all the way in the grooves. When the gun fired, the bolt would open and then jam as the lugs engaged and started to rotate. A gunsmith who I took it to (during my week of hunting) said that this was a VERY COMMON problem on this model (742 Woodsmaster) and would be expensive to fully remedy (he Dremmel tooled it out, removing the "burrs" in it ... but then the action felt "sloppy"). I had this further confirmed by a second gunsmith (Gagnon's) and consequently sold the gun and bought a new model 7400 30-06 carbine.

Before buying this gun, remove the trigger assembly (punch out the retaining pins) and turn the gun over ... look at the bolt and see if there is any noticable scoring where it retracts. It might be worth taking it to a reputable gunsmith and having them look at it, as this was something that you might overlook when looking at how "new" the gun is. I got a good 7-8 years out of mine before this happened (and the gun was already probably that old) ... but it only takes one jam to make you regret not noticing something like this sooner.

Good luck.

Remington 742 any comments

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Posted by Stephen on April 27, 2000 at 12:25:26:

I have an opportunity to purchase a remington 742 semi in .308 It is about 7 years old and appears to be in great shape. Has anyone had any experience with this model? Any comments would be appreciated.

Re: Browning Gold

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Posted by Chuck on April 27, 2000 at 11:01:06:

In Reply to: Browning Gold posted by Alain on April 27, 2000 at 06:30:16:

Congratulations!!!!!! You made the right choice

Browning Gold

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Posted by Alain on April 27, 2000 at 06:30:16:

thank you all for your advice.Very interesting and it permited me to be more inquisive with the gun shop. I finally made the decision and bought it. What a beauty!! it weight in at 7lbs 12 oz beautiful butt and the barrel stands at 28". The wife was not as excited as I was but you know how they can be.. I almost felt like giving out cigars for the occasion. What a great day this is.Can't wait to go out to play with it!!!

Re: I just about died!

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Posted by ???????????? on April 27, 2000 at 06:15:48:

In Reply to: Re: I just about died! posted by TDC on April 26, 2000 at 09:25:35:

YEAH RIGHT & I'LL BE FIRST IN LINE TO REGISTER & TAKE THE COURSE!!!!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!

Re: NB spring bear hunt under attack

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Posted by Alex on April 27, 2000 at 00:19:25:

In Reply to: NB spring bear hunt under attack posted by Fischer on April 14, 2000 at 08:49:00:

Just surfing. Nice site. Writing from Manitoba where the spring bear season is also under attack from Winnipeg Humane Society and, you guessed it, IFAW. So far the NDP gov't isn't changing laws, but as it usually goes with these uneducated, socialist idiots we are probably not far behind you guys in Ontario. Their argument is, as I'm sure it was in Ontario as well, that too many sows are being shot away from their cubs. They say female bears will often leave their cubs behind as they approach a bait.WHAT BS!! We've been in the outfitting business for 18 years and to this day I have not seen this to be true. As you know, the cubs always come out first, closely followed by the sow. Anyone who thinks differently should spend some time in a treestand watching bears, and not get their info from misinformed,ill-brained AR extremists. As usual, the media are giving completely biased reports on this issue.I learned something today! Myself and many I know have always thought that the majority of tree-huggers,animal rights people, etc. were mainly university students from large urban centers, specifically Toronto& area. Nice to see that's not true!

Re: New Shotgun Info?

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Posted by Pat Antry on April 26, 2000 at 16:36:44:

In Reply to: Re: New Shotgun Info? posted by Chuck on September 08, 1999 at 14:06:01:

Which Model Citori is it? and does it have a case or extra choke tubes? Pat

Re: Opening Morning for Turkeys

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Posted by bowhunter on April 26, 2000 at 12:44:58:

In Reply to: Opening Morning for Turkeys posted by Tomm on April 25, 2000 at 13:42:56:

My first day turkey hunting. I had a single gobbler come to within 75 yds just after daylight. About 1/2 later 3 gobblers approached and struted around again about 75 yds. I picked up about 9:30 to go and see how my buddy was doing. Little did I know he had a big gobbler and a hen coming to him. I couldn't hear him calling and the gobbler was also silent. As I approached I scared the pair off. My buddy wasn't to happy. Guess I can't blame him. I also had a good sized buck almost step on me. Oh well, no birds but one hell of an exciting morning.

Re: Canada Geese

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Posted by bartsimpson127 on April 26, 2000 at 10:59:48:

In Reply to: Canada Geese posted by Nick on November 11, 1999 at 20:25:22:

we need information on canadien geese........fast!!!!!!

Re: I just about died!

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Posted by TDC on April 26, 2000 at 09:25:35:

In Reply to: I just about died! posted by Kevin on April 22, 2000 at 20:59:45:

Maybe this means your GPS will have to be registered like your guns and you will need a PAL to get one!! They are very dangerous to the public you know....right up there with crossbows!! Now that you can kill more moose with a GPS, I think we should have a whole new testing procedure for their use including a course with test including fees ,a registration procedure,and an aggravating 6 month wait to get your permit....only makes sense,doesn't it?.....TC

Re: I just about died!

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Posted by ??????????? on April 26, 2000 at 06:18:59:

In Reply to: I just about died! posted by Kevin on April 22, 2000 at 20:59:45:

Where do you get those GPS that find & kill the moose for you???? Sounds so much easier........I have a Garmin & it won't do that!!!!!!!!! Typical MNR employee.......as the say in the army........YOU GET PROMOTED TO YOUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF IMCOMPETENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

re deer hunting beagl

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Posted by jason whyte on April 25, 2000 at 21:38:46:

i am looking for a deer hunting beagle please post a mesage or email me thanks in advance jason

Opening Morning for Turkeys

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Posted by Tomm on April 25, 2000 at 13:42:56:

any body have any luck with aq tom this morning?? I heard one last night, but he was a no-show this am.

Re: I just about died!

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Posted by Kevin on April 25, 2000 at 12:20:32:

In Reply to: Re: I just about died! posted by BassHaven on April 25, 2000 at 07:23:50:

No, he wasn`t kidding! He had a few other excuses but the GPS took the cake.

Re: I just about died!

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Posted by BassHaven on April 25, 2000 at 07:23:50:

In Reply to: Re: I just about died! posted by Shooter on April 22, 2000 at 23:05:50:

Hey you guys!! It was probably the infamous 300 MAG(ellan)....What a joke!!....They were kidding,right??....I sure hope so!!!

Re: New Shotgun Info?

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Posted by Luke Leissner on April 24, 2000 at 09:25:56:

In Reply to: Re: New Shotgun Info? posted by Terry on April 17, 2000 at 20:24:17:

Looking for 2 Brownings 1) 425 in 20ga w/ 30 inch barrels and 2) Citori 410 with 28 inches and invectors.

Thanks.

Re: turkey in guelph area

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Posted by mumbo on April 23, 2000 at 18:18:58:

In Reply to: Re: turkey in guelph area posted by Tackleberry on March 29, 2000 at 20:49:20:

sorry it took so long to get back but, i checked out that area and the land owners wont allow hunting due to some real idiots in the last few years. thanks anyway. mumbo

Re: I just about died!

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Posted by Shooter on April 22, 2000 at 23:05:50:

In Reply to: I just about died! posted by Kevin on April 22, 2000 at 20:59:45:

Interesting..... I never knew you could shoot moose with a GPS, ask the OMNR what calibre it was

Shooter

I just about died!

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Posted by Kevin on April 22, 2000 at 20:59:45:

... laughing, that is. Some moron from the MNR was saying one of the reasons for holding back moose tags this year was due to hunters using GPS units which increased last years moose kill. Does anyone remember when biologists managed Ontario`s wildlife resource and Conservation officers didn`t dress like the militia?

Re: CH/NRA in BC

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Posted by STILL LOCKED UP on April 22, 2000 at 07:08:49:

In Reply to: Re: CH/NRA in BC posted by Jack on April 21, 2000 at 19:33:16:

Sounds like you've been there!!!!!!!!!!! So what party are you with?????????

Re: PHEASANT HUNTING

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Posted by Pierre on April 21, 2000 at 22:13:15:

In Reply to: PHEASANT HUNTING posted by wtrfwlr_2000 on March 24, 2000 at 21:48:12:

Along the same lines I was wondering if anyone out there knew of game bird preserves in the Ottawa area. By Ottawa I include anything within about 1-2 hours (eastern Quebec ?)

Re: CH/NRA in BC

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Posted by Jack on April 21, 2000 at 19:33:16:

In Reply to: CH/NRA in BC posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:11:32:

In order to be a polititian you have to be a crook! If they were to impose sentences on those with weapons committing crime, Chretians would be giving his Christmas wishes to the nation from a pententary while he visited his collegues.

Re: CH/NRA in BC

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Posted by Jack on April 21, 2000 at 19:33:14:

In Reply to: CH/NRA in BC posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:11:32:

In order to be a polititian you have to be a crook! If they were to impose sentences on those with weapons committing crime, Chretians would be giving his Christmas wishes to the nation from a pententary while he visited his collegues.

Re: Browning gold 3.5"

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Posted by Kern on April 21, 2000 at 10:00:52:

In Reply to: Browning gold 3.5" posted by Alain on April 20, 2000 at 14:27:07:

3.5 inch would help with steel. Bigger pellets take up more room so a bigger case that holds more would make sense. I have a 10ga browning BPS and am very pleased with it. One of the reasons I bought it is because of the large payloads I can throw at geese. Only down side is the 3.5 inch shells cost more. Last year I paid 42.99 for a box of 10 shells in Bismuth! This year I saw them for around 34.00 for the same box.

Re: Browning gold 3.5"

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Posted by Braden on April 20, 2000 at 17:30:22:

In Reply to: Re: Browning gold 3.5" posted by Kevin on April 20, 2000 at 15:13:35:

I like the Browning gold, but I don't believe you really need a 3 1/2 incher. Maybe for better patterns with BBB but thats it.

chocolate lab pups

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Posted by Brad on April 20, 2000 at 16:06:18:

Our chocolate had 9 pups today. for sale $600. ckc registered pure breds. for more info contact ironridge@sympatico.ca Ready to go in 7 weeks.

Re: Browning gold 3.5"

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Posted by Kevin on April 20, 2000 at 15:13:35:

In Reply to: Browning gold 3.5" posted by Alain on April 20, 2000 at 14:27:07:

Alain; The 3 1/2 will give you more shot but it won`t give you any more punch. The velocities will be pretty much the same as the shorter shells.I can`t see spending the extra money on the 3 1/2`s although I do like Browning products.

Browning gold 3.5"

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Posted by Alain on April 20, 2000 at 14:27:07:

Please advise me if I am doing the right thing on purchasing the New Browning Gold 3.5". I would use for Geese and duck Hunting.I am very excited about bying it and am wondering if anyone has one out there. I am also looking into getting the HI-VIZ with it. I really like semi automatic shot guns and think with the steel shot the 3.5" would help. what do you all think??

Re: 1 more licensing question

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Posted by Wes on April 19, 2000 at 17:44:52:

In Reply to: 1 more licensing question posted by Sam on April 19, 2000 at 16:32:52:

Right - you have a Possession and Acquistion Licence for Restricted firearms. Before it expires, you will have to replace it with a PAL - you can chose whether for Restricted (80.00)or Non-restricted (60.00). Have you passed the test for the Canadian Firearms Safety Course ? If not, you will be required to do so to renew your licence. If you have the course, it is good for life.

1 more licensing question

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Posted by Sam on April 19, 2000 at 16:32:52:

I just want to make sure that I'll be ok when Jan 1 2001 rolls around. If I have a VALID FAC will that be acceptable as a Possession and Aquistion License? So when my current FAC eventually runs out, I simply reapply for a PAL? My FAC runs out in 2003, so I shouldn't have to worry about that right??? Thanks Sam

Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse?

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Posted by Fischer on April 19, 2000 at 14:42:06:

In Reply to: Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse? posted by Matt Ward on April 18, 2000 at 18:39:15:

I can appreciate the problems in manufacture, Matt, but find it impossible to believe that it translates into a retail price of $20/lb. Even subtracting wholesale and retail markup, that still translates into $6-8/lb. for the manufacturer. Unless they have some union worker rolling each pellet by hand, that is Outrageous!

Re: The spring bear hunt ban

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Posted by Kevin on April 19, 2000 at 12:38:00:

In Reply to: Re: The spring bear hunt ban posted by Sue on April 12, 2000 at 18:34:02:

Hi Sue; Thanks for making the effort, we could use a few more like you! For the Ontario hunters that haven`t met Sue, she is better known as the Camo Lady! Sue is the owner/operator of Wolf Custom Clothing located near Echo Bay Ontario. Custom Camo

Re: Challenger steel!

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Posted by Dave on April 19, 2000 at 11:13:03:

In Reply to: Re: Challenger steel! posted by Kevin on April 19, 2000 at 07:32:42:

The amount of lead needed to be lethal isn't very much. You drop a pellet into a gizzard and all the other gravel will quickly grind it up so enough is absorbed. Eventually they will get rid of it, but the damage will be done. I don't think people realize how little lead is required to be dangerous. If you took a chip of high lead paint from 50 years ago the size of a dime and somehow ate it, you've just ingested your limit for lead for the next three years.

Re: Challenger steel!

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Posted by Kevin on April 19, 2000 at 07:32:42:

In Reply to: Re: Challenger steel! posted by Kern on April 18, 2000 at 22:59:27:

I`m shooting ducks with #2 steel and don`t care for it.One time the bird will drop hard and the next time it will fly off and die somewhere else.I whacked a nice mallard at close to forty yards, the duck folded and came down in a spin.It lost about ten feet of air then all of a sudden it straightened out and flew away.My dog will find many cripples that were lost by hunters using steel shot.Does anyone know why ducks can`t pass the lead shot through their system ? It seems to me if they can pass a small piece of gravel they should be able to do the same with lead. Hunting Algoma

Re: Challenger steel!

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Posted by Kern on April 18, 2000 at 22:59:27:

In Reply to: Re: Challenger steel! posted by Braden on April 18, 2000 at 21:51:56:

Ive knocked a few down with steel and watched them get up and shake it off!! You just have to hold off shooting till you can see their toes. I like Bithmuth, even though I have only shot about 20 rounds. Really nice on those longer shots, but to be honest if your shootin over decoys and their not shy, steel works fine. Im dying to try Tungsten but havent seen it in 10ga.

Re: Challenger steel!

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Posted by Braden on April 18, 2000 at 21:51:56:

In Reply to: Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse? posted by Shooter on April 18, 2000 at 13:14:31:

That is good stuff, nice velocity, and its still cheap. I have to disagree though, I think bismuth is good goose medicine, esp. as I like to shoot a full choke. I have had very good luck with larger sized bismuth. I really am not much of a steel fan though. I find that even with solid hits, you may knock em down but still quite frequently have to put in another one for good measure! My issue with steel is that it doesn't deform on contact, so it just pokes a hole clean through, instead of mushrooming up and putting the bird down for keeps. I have made a few hail mary 60 yard irresponsible shots with bismuth, and still dropped a bird clean. I can't do that with steel (not that I should be doing it, but for the sake of an example). I pine for lead. If the bastards try to ban it for fishing, I'm not going along with it. Btw, Fischer, I agree, disgracefull what they charge, but they know some of us will pay it. Anything with an eco label on it is cause for price increase.

Braden

Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse?

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Posted by Matt Ward on April 18, 2000 at 18:39:15:

In Reply to: Bismuth - a Trojan horse? posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:40:53:

Even thought bismuth is a by-product in the refining proccess of other metals it is so expensive because it is brittle and hard to shape. 3% tin is actualy added to help from it into pellets. When you strick a pellet with a hammer you would be suprised at howw easily it shatters.

Matt

Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse?

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Posted by Fischer on April 18, 2000 at 14:08:10:

In Reply to: Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse? posted by Shooter on April 18, 2000 at 13:14:31:

My biggest complaint with Bismuth is that, up until it was identified as a "non-toxic" alternative to lead, it was a manufacturing by-product that was dumped by the tonne in landfill sites. Now, the stuff is seems more valuable than silver. An outrageous rip-off!

Ever notice that products with "environmentally friendly packaging" cost more? What's up with that?

Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse?

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Posted by Shooter on April 18, 2000 at 13:14:31:

In Reply to: Bismuth - a Trojan horse? posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:40:53:

Bismuth sucks. The higher velocities in magnum shells seem to fragment the shot on impact. Bismuth was a non toxic alternative to steel and i am sure there are others. But wayyyyyyy too expensive. I really havent had a prob with steel. Even with geese. But i exclusively shoot Challenger Steel. 3 inch #2 for the big birds and 2 3/4 inch #2 or #4 early in the season.

Shooter

Re: TURKEY COURSE

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Posted by WANNA BE TURKEY HUNTER on April 18, 2000 at 06:19:14:

In Reply to: Re: TURKEY COURSE posted by Kern on April 17, 2000 at 13:53:55:

I was told ever where in Ontario was booked solid..........oh well, guess i'll just have to cruise the backroads with my vehicle & hit one as it saunters across!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA...........GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE!!!!!!

Re: Bismuth - a Trojan horse?

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Posted by Braden on April 17, 2000 at 20:49:46:

In Reply to: Bismuth - a Trojan horse? posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:40:53:

Interesting, I don't think a lot of guys are blasting away with it though, I save it for the Geese only. It's not quite as good as lead, but anything, including tossing dog poo is better than steel.

Braden

Re: New Shotgun Info?

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Posted by Terry on April 17, 2000 at 20:24:17:

In Reply to: New Shotgun Info? posted by Rob E. on September 07, 1999 at 00:37:08:

I am looking at two shotguns-the Browning Gold Hunter 12 gauge semi-automatic that shoots 3.5",3", and 2.75" shells and the Winchester Super X2 which is also a 12 gauge semi-automatic and shoots the same size shells. Has any one found comparison reviews between these two guns?

Re: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt

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Posted by HARVIE on April 17, 2000 at 15:53:25:

In Reply to: Re: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt posted by Nick on April 17, 2000 at 11:44:20:

Thanks for the info. I have found that you can hunt in some land around Cambridge, but I was hoping to find something closer and maybe private. I guess I will have to bang on some doors. I was lucky, where I used to live I new all the local farmers.

Re: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt

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Posted by HARVIE on April 17, 2000 at 15:52:27:

In Reply to: Re: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt posted by Nick on April 17, 2000 at 11:44:20:

Thanks for the info. I have found that you can hunt in some land around Cambridge, but I was hoping to find something closer and maybe private. I guess I will have to bang on some doors. I was lucky, where I used to live I new all the local farmers.

Re: TURKEY COURSE

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Posted by Kern on April 17, 2000 at 13:53:55:

In Reply to: TURKEY COURSE posted by WANNA BE TURKEY HUNTER on April 17, 2000 at 08:13:25:

Is that waiting list only for the location where you want to take the course?? I had to go to Peterborough to take my course. Everything closer to TO was booked solid. Its always pretty busy just before & during the season as well.

Re: CH/NRA in BC

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Posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 13:09:49:

In Reply to: Re: CH/NRA in BC posted by Kevin on April 17, 2000 at 12:09:10:

I understand that. Actually doing something about crime would require more than just listening to the pulse of their femoral arteries, while they have their head up their respective asses.

Re: CH/NRA in BC

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Posted by Kevin on April 17, 2000 at 12:09:10:

In Reply to: CH/NRA in BC posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:11:32:

This issue has never been about crime,they aren`t interested in stopping crime they want your guns, period.

Re: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt

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Posted by Nick on April 17, 2000 at 11:44:20:

In Reply to: Need land west of Toronto to Hunt posted by HARVIE on April 16, 2000 at 16:52:02:

HARVIE,

Welcome to the hunting page !! As to your question..... may I suggest that you contact the MNR office ... you can find the ## in the blue pages of the phone book and I'm sure that they will beable to help you out ! Also ask them about the various wildlife management areas such as Holland Marsh and the various Prov. Parks which may let you hunt at different times of the year as well ! If you need any other help please feel free to contact me off the list and I'll try my luck with the MNR here in Peterborough for you !

Good luck !!

Nick

Bismuth - a Trojan horse?

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Posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:40:53:

Never liked the stuff anyway...thought it was a rip-off. But, what are they going to come up with next? An outright ban on hunting doesn't seem far away. :(

ENVIRONMENT : TOXIC SHOT SYNDROME April 12, 2000 Nature Science Update David Adam

http://helix.nature.com/nsu/000413/000413-7.html\

Lead shot is, this story explained, so lethal that it poisons and kills water birds that mistakenly eat it. Lead ammunition is, this story says, now prohibited in many countries because of this lingering effect on the environment. Bismuth shot has the required ballistic properties and, unlike lead, is considered to be safe to non-combatants -- hunters must at least shoot birds to kill them with bismuth. But new research now was cited as suggesting that some animals wounded with bismuth pellets can accumulate large and potentially toxic amounts of the metal in their tissues. Roger Pamphlett at the University of Sydney, Australia, and colleagues at the University of Aarhus, Denmark, were quoted as saying, "Given the present knowledge on the toxicity of bismuth compounds, if recreational shooting of wild animals is to continue on a large scale it seems prudent to look for pellet material that is more inert."

This story explained that bismuth is essentially non-toxic compared with other, nastier heavy metals like lead. But bismuth has been linked to disorders of the nervous system. And studies have been cited as showing that bismuth toxicity varies between individuals -- it is not directly related to the dose or duration of exposure.

CH/NRA in BC

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Posted by Fischer on April 17, 2000 at 09:11:32:

Saw a news report that Charleton Heston spoke at a meeting in BC on Friday.

The news report said that in Richmond, Virginia, the authorities hit every criminal who was caught with a firearm with a mandatory 5 year prison term - and it was actually enforced!!

Homicides dropped from 140 to 34 in one year! It's so simple! Why the Hell can't Chretien, McLelland and Rock get it??

TURKEY COURSE

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Posted by WANNA BE TURKEY HUNTER on April 17, 2000 at 08:13:25:

In Reply to: Re: TURKEY COURSE posted by steve on April 16, 2000 at 14:52:37:

Already have & everything is booked solid. I'm on a waiting list!!!!!!!! God only knows how long i'll have to wait.................thanks for the response.............gobble..........gobble..........gobble!

Need land west of Toronto to Hunt

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Posted by HARVIE on April 16, 2000 at 16:52:02:

I have recently moved to Toronto. I am looking for land to hunt on. I live in Mississauga and would prefer only an hour drive out of the city. I would only be bowhunting on it and maybe a little grouse hunting with my wife.

Re: TURKEY COURSE

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Posted by steve on April 16, 2000 at 14:52:37:

In Reply to: TURKEY COURSE posted by WANNA BE TURKEY HUNTER on April 15, 2000 at 07:19:27:

Contact the Federations of Anglers and Hunters. Sometimes they hold an additional course just before the season opens if they have enough interest.

FOR SALE: Iraqi rifle. Never fired. Dropped once...nomsg

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Posted by Guns R Us on April 15, 2000 at 21:14:22:

TURKEY COURSE

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Posted by WANNA BE TURKEY HUNTER on April 15, 2000 at 07:19:27:

How the hell does one get to be a turkey hunter if all the turkey hunting courses are full???? This is the second time i've tried to get into a course & it was booked solid. No wonder there are those that hunt illegally!!!!!!!! Just my 2 cents worth.........gobble gobble gobble

Re: Possession permit???? Thank's Wes

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Posted by Jack on April 14, 2000 at 21:51:48:

In Reply to: Re: Possession permit???? posted by bow on April 10, 2000 at 06:49:59:

Thanks for clearing up the question, it is fustrating to see them require this information though when the registry is still not required. Jack

Scary bedtime story - Sadly, it's too true

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Posted by Fischer on April 14, 2000 at 10:04:20:

The Parable of the Sheep by Charles Riggs

Not so long ago and in a pasture too uncomfortably close to here, a flock of sheep lived and grazed. They were protected by a dog, who answered to the master, but despite his best efforts from time to time a nearby pack of wolves would prey upon the flock.

One day a group of sheep, bolder than the rest, met to discuss their dilemma. "Our dog is good, and vigilant,but he is one and the wolves are many. The wolves he catches are not always killed, and the master judges and releases many to prey again upon us, for no reason we can understand. What can we do? We are sheep, but we do not wish to be food, too!"

One sheep spoke up, saying "It is his teeth and claws that make the wolf so terrible to us. It is his nature to prey, and he would find any way to do it, but it is the tools he wields that make it possible. If we had such teeth, we could fight back, and stop this savagery." The other sheep clamored in agreement, and they went together to the old bones of the dead wolves heaped in the corner of the pasture, and gathered fang and claw and made them into weapons.

That night, when the wolves came, the newly armed sheep sprang up with their weapons and struck at them, crying, "Begone! We are not food!" and drove off the wolves, who were astonished. When did sheep become so bold and so dangerous to wolves? When did sheep grow teeth? It was unthinkable!

The next day, flush with victory and waving their weapons, they approached the flock to pronounce their discovery. But as they drew nigh, the flock huddled together and cried out, "Baaaaaaaadddd! Baaaaaddd things! You have bad things! We are afraid! You are not sheep!" The brave sheep stopped, amazed. "But we are your brethren!" they cried. "We are still sheep, but we do not wish to be food. See, our new teeth and claws protect us and have saved us from slaughter. They do not make us into wolves, they make us equal to the wolves, and safe from their viciousness!"

"Baaaaaaad!" cried the flock, "the things are bad and will pervert you, and we fear them. You cannot bring them into the flock!" So the armed sheep resolved to conceal their weapons, for although they had no desire to panic the flock, they wished to remain in the fold. But they would not return to those nights of terror, waiting for the wolves to come.

In time, the wolves attacked less often and sought easier prey, for they had no stomach for fighting sheep who possessed tooth and claw even as they did. Not knowing which sheep had fangs and which did not, they came to leave sheep out of their diet almost completely except for the occasional raid, from which more than one wolf did not return.

Then came the day when, as the flock grazed beside the stream, one sheep’s weapon slipped from the folds of her fleece, and the flock cried out in terror again, "Baaaaaad! You still possess these evil things! We must ban you from our presence!"

And so they did. The great chief sheep and his council, encouraged by the words of their advisors, placed signs and totems at the edges of the pasture forbidding the presence of hidden weapons there. The armed sheep protested before the council, saying, "It is our pasture, too, and we have never harmed you! When can you say we have caused you hurt? It is the wolves, not we, who prey upon you. We are still sheep, but we are not food!" But the flock drowned them out with cries of "Baaaaaaddd! We will not hear your clever words! You and your things are evil and will harm us!"

Saddened by this rejection, the armed sheep moved off and spent their days on the edges of the flock, trying from time to time to speak with their brethren to convince them of the wisdom of having such teeth, but meeting with little success. They found it hard to talk to those who, upon hearing their words, would roll back their eyes and flee, crying "Baaaaddd! Bad things!"

That night, the wolves happened upon the sheep’s totems and signs, and said, "Truly, these sheep are fools! They have told us they have no teeth! Brothers, let us feed!" And they set upon the flock, and horrible was the carnage in the midst of the fold. The dog fought like a demon, and often seemed to be in two places at once, but even he could not halt the slaughter.

It was only when the other sheep arrived with their weapons that the wolves fled, only to remain on the edge of the pasture and wait for the next time they could prey, for if the sheep were so foolish once, they would be so again. This they did, and do still.

In the morning, the armed sheep spoke to the flock, and said, "See? If the wolves know you have no teeth, they will fall upon you. Why be prey? To be a sheep does not mean to be food for wolves!" But the flock cried out, more feebly for their voices were fewer, though with no less terror, "Baaaaaaaad! These things are bad! If they were banished, the wolves would not harm us! Baaaaaaad!"

So they resolved to retain their weapons, but to conceal them from the flock; to endure their fear and loathing, and even to protect their brethren if the need arose, until the day the flock learned to understand that as long as there were wolves in the night, sheep would need teeth to repel them.

They would still be sheep, but they would not be food!

© 1997 Charles Riggs

NB spring bear hunt under attack

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Posted by Fischer on April 14, 2000 at 08:49:00:

http://www.canoe.ca/AtlanticTicker/CANOE-wire.Atlantic-Today.html

Re: The spring bear hunt ban

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Posted by Sue on April 12, 2000 at 18:34:02:

In Reply to: Re: The spring bear hunt ban posted by mike on March 30, 2000 at 03:29:45:

Kevin; i sent him my thoughts on the subject.Problem is that he probably has someone hired specifically to "DELETE" all underiseable messages! I think I might qualify for that job.

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Posted by TestRun on April 12, 2000 at 15:23:38:

In Reply to: Secrets... Secrets.... posted by Wait See on April 12, 2000 at 15:19:20:

secrets...

Secrets... Secrets....

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Posted by Wait See on April 12, 2000 at 15:19:20:

In Reply to: Re: Dump hunter orange posted by Buwana Bob on October 04, 1999 at 01:47:36:

Too Many Secrets...

Lock Pick

Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by SCREWING THE SYSTEM on April 11, 2000 at 06:15:42:

In Reply to: Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by Braden on April 10, 2000 at 19:54:37:

Well I too had to get my PAL before it is legally redquired but i'm waiting until the very last minute to register my 13 long guns!!!!!!!! If we all wait until the very last minute, then the amount of people registering should crash the system!!!!!!!!! I say we all SCREW THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: IVI 7.62NATO or 303 British Ammunition

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Posted by Tackleberry on April 10, 2000 at 22:28:38:

In Reply to: Re: IVI 7.62NATO or 303 British Ammunition posted by Steve Redgwell on April 10, 2000 at 09:00:04:

Interesting, ya I gess I forgot about the Rangers.

Sounds great, enjoy the retirement, see ya around the sight.

Tack

Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by Braden on April 10, 2000 at 19:54:37:

In Reply to: Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:08:48:

If I hadn't required a new scattergun, I would not have applied until last minute, now I have a PAL, so I guess I'm covered. To bad, and pardon my french but I'd love to stick it to those C#@K S@$kers

Ebay Auction Canada

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Posted by Horntrip on April 10, 2000 at 17:18:24:

Just some info. EBay Auction now has a Canadian site showing Canadian dollar amounts. Looks like a good site for Hunting items. http://www.ca.ebay.com/

Re: New Link

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Posted by Kevin on April 10, 2000 at 12:32:59:

In Reply to: Re: New Link posted by TDC on April 10, 2000 at 09:40:45:

Thanks TC; The picture on the cover page is a 788 in .222. The picture on the callers page is a 700 in .17Rem.

Re: membership ??

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Posted by Andy on April 10, 2000 at 10:49:41:

In Reply to: membership ?? posted by Alain on April 06, 2000 at 10:49:31:

I don't know how legit they are, other than it appears they exist and have a magazine. I too received an invite from them. Problem is, it was addressed to my daughter who has never so much as held a firearm in her hands...

Re: New Link

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Posted by TDC on April 10, 2000 at 09:40:45:

In Reply to: New Link posted by Kevin on April 08, 2000 at 18:14:34:

Kevin ,like the new look,great job!!...BTW what's that gun you're using in the picture. I think I can see a clip there (a 788?).....TC

Re: IVI 7.62NATO or 303 British Ammunition

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on April 10, 2000 at 09:00:04:

In Reply to: Re: IVI 7.62NATO or 303 British Ammunition posted by Tackleberry on April 09, 2000 at 22:19:33:

Well Tack, it's still around. The service has it listed in their supply system. The 7.62 is used in the GPMG and Mini-Tat. 303 is still issued to the Rangers and some of the Cadet units. I put my name on the list at Crown Assets so that I can receive email notices of upcoming sales.

I retired last year after 21 years as an armourer with the CAF. I was hoping to get ahold of either loaded or empty cases for a book on the 7.62 NATO cartridge. The 303 Brit stuff would be for fireforming to 303 Epps. I want to get three or four different milsurp case types together and determine how much difference there is between the commercial stuff and gov't issue. SNC makes all the small arms ammunition for the service now (including, they tell me, 303 and 7.62). They're based out of Quebec but don't sell to the general public of course. Atlantic Ordnance in Oromocto, NB used to sell 7.62 and 5.56 brass. They have an email address, but I can't find it. Maybe someone knows it or their 1-800 number.

Take care!

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303British.com

Re: Possession permit????

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Posted by bow on April 10, 2000 at 06:53:10:

In Reply to: Re: Possession permit???? posted by wes on April 09, 2000 at 21:04:53:

ya your right wes 45$bucks now & atleast 100$bucks per gun later to resg/ what a joke .

Re: Possession permit????

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Posted by bow on April 10, 2000 at 06:49:59:

In Reply to: Re: Possession permit???? posted by wes on April 09, 2000 at 21:04:53:

ya your right wes , 45 bucks now ,and aleast a 100bucks a gun later . what a joke .

Re: IVI 7.62NATO or 303 British Ammunition

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Posted by Tackleberry on April 09, 2000 at 22:19:33:

In Reply to: IVI 7.62NATO or 303 British Ammunition posted by Steve Redgwell on April 09, 2000 at 16:51:22:

Hey Steve, I think the only people that would be able to fill that request might be named Bob Smith of 123 any street, Something Town :-)

When I left the Army Cadets, as an instructor, we were blowing off 7.62 IVI, year 79 I think. and .303 was 82. I know that because I think I got one of the last remaining WWII .303 cases(empty) in southern Ontario when I was a cadet two years prior.

I don't know for sure, I have been away from the organization for almost 15yrs., but I thought the FN's were placed in "war time" storage. If so, the ammo would not have been liquidated.

Curious, what's your background?

Tack

RE DAVE DONT OPEN YOUR YAP TILL YOU LOOK

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Posted by jason on April 09, 2000 at 21:52:02:

In Reply to: AND YOU'RE ALSO AN IDIOT posted by Dave on April 06, 2000 at 20:06:42:

i have hunted deer and moose in the park for 3 years and it is not aganst the law there were over 100 camps that hunt the park and have been for a number of years so before you get your yap going check out your rules it just goes to show you that people jump to conclusions about hunting in parks and shows people that it can be done and people dont know check out infromation before you open your mouth again

Re: Possession permit????

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Posted by wes on April 09, 2000 at 21:04:53:

In Reply to: Re: Possession permit???? posted by bigbow on April 09, 2000 at 17:55:51:

the $45 is the licence fee, registration is entirely different

Re: Possession permit????

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Posted by bigbow on April 09, 2000 at 17:55:51:

In Reply to: Re: Possession permit???? posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 14:16:47:

what is the 45$charge then ,ass wipe ?

Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:09:04:

In Reply to: Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:07:39:

Correction on date to possess - jan 1, 2001

Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:09:00:

In Reply to: Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:07:39:

Correction on date to possess - jan 1, 2001

Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:08:48:

In Reply to: Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:07:39:

Correction on date to possess - jan 1, 2001

Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 17:07:39:

In Reply to: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by WEST on April 08, 2000 at 23:27:45:

As far as waiting until Dec 31 to apply for your licence, keep in mind that you must have a licence on Jan 1, 2000 to possess a firearm - ot just have applied for it. If you wait until Dec 31, you could be causing yourself grief. Your choice, but be sure you know what you are doing.

IVI 7.62NATO or 303 British Ammunition

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on April 09, 2000 at 16:51:22:

I'm looking for a CDN source for this milsurp stuff. I'd like to get at least 200 rounds of each, preferably the same lot. Can anybody help? Please?

Rumours, suggestions or remote possibilities welcome. It's got to be out there someplace!

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303British.com

Re: The New Possesion License

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Posted by Shooter on April 09, 2000 at 16:46:22:

In Reply to: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by WEST on April 08, 2000 at 23:27:45:

My old FAC expired on Dec 15 of 99... i had to apply for new FL. Just got it in the mail about 2 weeks ago. If mine hadnt expired in favour of the FEDS i would have waited until Dec 31 2000.

Shooter

Re: Possession permit????

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Posted by Wes on April 09, 2000 at 14:16:47:

In Reply to: Possession permit???? posted by Jack on April 09, 2000 at 06:22:59:

One of the requirements to be eligible for a possession licence is that you already possessed a firearm as of Dec 1/98. You may get a licence to possess whatever class you possessed at that time. That is the reason the application requests the firearms you owned. If they were restricted or prohibited, all you need to indicate is the registration certificate number. For non-restricted, they ask for a description of the firearm involved. This is not registration as there is no charge for it and the firearm is not recorded to you, only used to confirm elibility

Re: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by bigbow on April 09, 2000 at 07:59:43:

In Reply to: The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply? posted by WEST on April 08, 2000 at 23:27:45:

a friend of mine sent in his form with the one gun number blank. The police phoned and said that the national resg/ office wanted to no why he left it blank. My buddy told them he is informing them he has {A} gun in his possesion,but was not registrating them at this time . They said it was ok ,so if i do mine i,ll leave it blank. This has to be the biggest money grab ever,wait till the registration part comes out i bet we pay $100 bucks a gun every 5 yrs . who,s the crooks.

Possession permit????

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Posted by Jack on April 09, 2000 at 06:22:59:

Please tell me more. I'm in the process of my application for renewal of my aquistion permit. I find one question on the application that is asking me to identify one of the fire arms I possess by make and serial number. To me this is another registry of firearms that I, under the current system am obosed to. If there is a new system in the making I would appreciate more details. My current FAC expires in June, and I may have waited too late to get a timely return.

Thanks Jack

The New Possesion License, how many are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by WEST on April 08, 2000 at 23:28:15:

Hey Guys,

Just got back from my local sporting goods store and got to chatting about the new licensing and registration system. The owner mentioned that lot of his customers are waiting until the last minute to apply for the possession and or the acquisition license. Just wondering what the majority of the board is doing? I guess everyone's aim is to overload the system, but as of January 1 is it legal to possess longuns if your application is still under review?? I personally plan to wait as long as I can! Just wondering what the general consensus is???

Regards

The New Possesion License, how many of you are waiting to the end to Apply?

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Posted by WEST on April 08, 2000 at 23:27:45:

Hey Guys,

Just got back from my local sporting goods store and got to chatting about the new licensing and registration system. The owner mentioned that lot of his customers are waiting until the last minute to apply for the possession and or the acquisition license. Just wondering what the majority of the board is doing? I guess everyone's aim is to overload the system, but as of January 1 is it legal to possess longuns if your application is still under review?? I personally plan to wait as long as I can! Just wondering what the general consensus is???

Regards

New Link

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Posted by Kevin on April 08, 2000 at 18:14:34:

In Reply to: Re: Wildlife Management posted by Kevin on April 08, 2000 at 18:03:09:

By the way, I have a new link.

New Link

Re: Wildlife Management

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Posted by Kevin on April 08, 2000 at 18:03:09:

In Reply to: Re: Wildlife Management posted by TC on April 08, 2000 at 17:37:10:

TC; I caught that one in a neck snare last December and I would have gladly let it go if it had not had mange. Just last week I found another one (dead) probably from the same litter. It was laying dead under the farmers combine less than a hundred yards from where I had caught this one.

Re: Wildlife Management

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Posted by TC on April 08, 2000 at 17:37:10:

In Reply to: Wildlife Management posted by Kevin on April 08, 2000 at 17:08:52:

Kevin,saw one shot by a local farmer about a month or so ago that had mange....my dad told him I was trying some calling so he phoned me up to come have a look...not a pretty picture...Terry

Wildlife Management

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Posted by Kevin on April 08, 2000 at 17:08:52:

This is how nature manages wildlife. This is a coyote pup with mange, you won`t see this on Walt Disney.

Re: I disagree again..not the "I pay taxes too line..."

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Posted by Kern on April 08, 2000 at 12:20:17:

In Reply to: Re: I disagree again..not the "I pay taxes too line..." posted by Braden on April 07, 2000 at 18:01:27:

Dont get me wrong Braden, I agree 100% with the idea of opening some of those parks to hunting as long as the activities are managed properly. Im only sorry that they are all so far away. What I have trouble with is the idea people have that because they pay taxes they should get some kind of right in return. The act of paying taxes does not extend any rights to people...they never have! I pay to have a drivers license, but driving is a privledge not a right...license or not. I see what your saying about everyone getting equal share of the parks their tax money went into, but surely you can understand that some activities probably wont work on the same patch of turf. The guy next door who rides ATV's also pays the same taxes that you and the bird watchers pay so I guess we have to make room for him too. Obviously you can see where the logic is leading.

Re: membership ??

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Posted by Dan on April 07, 2000 at 23:04:32:

In Reply to: Re: membership ?? posted by SCREWED on April 07, 2000 at 08:18:44:

I belong to the NAFC. I like the club just for the magazine alone. I won a replica of a 24" Brook Trout in their annual catch and release contest a couple years ago, so I got my moneys worth.

Re: I disagree again..not the "I pay taxes too line..."

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Posted by Braden on April 07, 2000 at 18:01:27:

In Reply to: Re: I disagree again..not the "I pay taxes too line..." posted by Kern on April 07, 2000 at 08:22:29:

If you want to hunt from a road(read mule trail) in Wabakimi, then yes that would be fine. While I understand what your saying Kern, I don't think that it really applies here. Most of the parks proposed are waaaaaaaaay north. I wouldn't object to hunting from the road in polar bear national park BTW I believe that the furthest you have to be from a road in rural areas is 6 metres. I could be mistaken, but then I have seen an awful lot of Blaze orange at the side of the road in Northern Ont. when moose is in season (not hwy 11 mind, but sideroads. The amount of traffic through these parks up north in the fall is MINIMAL. Thus why, if a bird watcher pays the same taxes that you and I do, should he be allowed to pursue his sport in a provincial park, when I can't.

Braden

Re: Salmon Charters

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Posted by Horntrip on April 07, 2000 at 14:43:17:

In Reply to: Salmon Charters posted by Dave on April 07, 2000 at 12:48:39:

Depending which part of Lake Ontario you are looking for, there might be something at this web site. http://www.pec.on.ca/

Re: Salmon Charters

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Posted by Kevin on April 07, 2000 at 13:53:07:

In Reply to: Salmon Charters posted by Dave on April 07, 2000 at 12:48:39:

Dave, we have salmon coming out of our ying yangs up here in the Sault.The St. Mary`s River is full of them.I might be able to set something up if you are interested in this area.

Salmon Charters

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Posted by Dave on April 07, 2000 at 12:48:39:

Does anyone have any good recommendations on chartering a salmon boat in August on Lake ontario or Lake Huron. Any advice is much appreciated.

Re: Varmits

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Posted by TC on April 07, 2000 at 12:32:01:

In Reply to: Varmits posted by Wigster on April 06, 2000 at 08:08:56:

Wigster,don't know how much luck you'll have on crow with air gun since I never tried it, but here is how I like to hunt them : I have a bunch of Johnny Stewart tapes that I ordered from Bass Pro a couple of years ago and by far the best is one called "Death Cry of a Crow" which really seems to bring them in.I like to set up on the edge of a bean or corn field (preferably on the corner)and play the tapes in a small boom box (my daughter's)which seems to work OK . Build a small blind out of some brush if there is some around and wear full camo . Crows are not stupid birds ,have excellent vision , and as soon as they realize what is going on they will be gone.Some people say to shoot the first crow that shows up as he is the scout for the rest of them but I never found this to make much difference.They will usually show up within a minute or so of turning on the tape (if there are any in the area)so you have to hurry back to your hiding spot before they see you. Mostly I shoot them with a shotgun and you can usually get at least a couple before they see you and take off. I sometimes take my .22 Hornet with me as well and if one hangs up and lands out in the field at some distance thinking he is out of danger you can still get a shot...great fun!!..Hope this helps.TC

Re: I disagree again..not the "I pay taxes too line..."

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Posted by Kern on April 07, 2000 at 08:22:29:

In Reply to: Re: I disagree again posted by FED UP TAXPAYER!!!!!!!! on April 06, 2000 at 07:30:29:

My taxes go towards maintaining the roads, so I guess that means I should be be able to hunt on them too!!

Re: Sing it brother!

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Posted by DRUNK AGAIN on April 07, 2000 at 08:21:17:

In Reply to: Re: Sing it brother! posted by Braden on April 06, 2000 at 15:43:19:

You're damn right bro.......a hottub, 2 hot & horny well stacked blondes & my favorite hunting partner, Jack Daniels!!!!!!!!!!!!! YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw

Re: membership ??

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Posted by SCREWED on April 07, 2000 at 08:18:44:

In Reply to: Re: membership ?? posted by Chuck on April 06, 2000 at 11:49:06:

I used to belong to both the North American Hunting Club & the North American Fishing Club and as far as i'm concerned they are both useless............unless of course you are interested in hunting & fishing in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just my 2 cents worth whether you like it or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND YOU'RE ALSO AN IDIOT

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Posted by Dave on April 06, 2000 at 20:06:42:

In Reply to: I HAVE HUNTING IN ALGONQUIN FOR YEARS posted by jaaon on April 06, 2000 at 17:47:22:

So what you're saying is you hunt illegally. Whether you agree with the laws or not, they are still laws and it's people like you that screw things up for the rest of us. What's the matter, you not a good enough hunter to find the game elsewhere?

I HAVE HUNTING IN ALGONQUIN FOR YEARS

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Posted by jaaon on April 06, 2000 at 17:47:22:

In Reply to: Should hunting be allowed in provincial parks? posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 17:37:38:

NOT ONLY HAVE I HUNTED THERE I HAVE SEEN MORE LOGGING IN THE PARK THAN YOU COULD IMAGINE AND THAT IS MORE DISTRUCTFUL THAN YOU THINK THE STORIES I COULD TELL ON GRAVEL TAKEN AND LAYED ON ROADS LETS LET ALL PEOPLE INJOY THE PARKS OF ALL SORTS

Re: Sing it brother!

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Posted by Braden on April 06, 2000 at 15:43:19:

In Reply to: Re: I disagree again posted by FED UP TAXPAYER!!!!!!!! on April 06, 2000 at 07:30:29:

We all pay taxes, and If some chump can set up shop for a week and run his boat at 50mph down lake opeongo, because he pays taxes, then I should be able to set up shop for a week in October. BTW, ever been in our provincial parks at the end of October, there empty. In all honesty I don't advocate opening parks that are very close to urban areas, they'll be overrun in short order. But the parks that are being proposed are all pretty far north and far from amenities from what I recall. How many of us have been to some of these remote places? I have but then I'm into all that back country hassle. The majority of Moose hunters I have met get upset when there to far from the hot tub. (just kidding guys.)

Braden

Re: membership ??

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Posted by Chuck on April 06, 2000 at 11:49:06:

In Reply to: membership ?? posted by Alain on April 06, 2000 at 10:49:31:

There was a thread on this club on one of the other forums. Apparently they are legitimate and just the magazine is worht the membership cost.

membership ??

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Posted by Alain on April 06, 2000 at 10:49:31:

I recently received an application for "North American Hunting Club".They are based out of a P.O.Box in Georgetown Ontario The headOffice is in Minnetonka,MN U.S.A. My question is : Has anyone ever heard of this Hunting club.Are they a scam ?? or legit?? Any info on it would be greatly appreciated before I make my decision to join.

Varmits

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Posted by Wigster on April 06, 2000 at 08:08:56:

I'm going to hunt some crows and starlings with my air gun, can anybody give me tips? Thanks

Re: You raise excellent points

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Posted by Kevin on April 06, 2000 at 07:52:57:

In Reply to: You raise excellent points posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 23:59:31:

Well that takes us to whether or not we want to believe in conservation and the wise use of our resources. If we can harvest the resource with little or no impact on the selected area then it`s my opinion we get the most value from it.Let`s use it but let`s look after it and manage it too.

Re: I disagree again

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Posted by FED UP TAXPAYER!!!!!!!! on April 06, 2000 at 07:30:29:

In Reply to: Re: I disagree again posted by Shooter on April 05, 2000 at 22:05:16:

I pay g0ddman taxes that help to maintain these parks so I should be able to hunt there!!!!!!!!!!

I thought you guys might enjoy this...

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Posted by Dan on April 06, 2000 at 04:34:25:

I found this in another outdoor discussion board and thought some of you would get a kick out of it. Credit to original poster.

This from a radio program, a TRUE report of a happening in Michigan:

A guy buys a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee for $30,000 and has $400+ monthly payments. He and a friend go duck hunting and of course all the lakes are frozen. These two guys go to the lake with the guns, the dog, the beer and of course the new vehicle. They drive out onto the lake ice and get ready. Now, they want to make some kind of a natural landing area for the ducks, something for the decoys to float on. In order to make a hole Large enough to look like something a wandering duck would fly down and and on, it is going to take a little more effort than an ice hole drill.So, out of the back of the new Grand Cherokee comes a stick of dynamite with a short, 40-second fuse. Now these two Rocket Scientists do take into consideration that they should place the dynamite at a location far from where they are standing (and the new Grand Cherokee). Mainly because they don't want to take the risk of slipping on the ice when they run from the burning fuse and possibly go up in smoke with the resulting blast. They decide to light this 40-second fuse and throw the dynamite. (Remember a couple of paragraphs back when I mentioned the vehicle, the beer, the guns and the dog?)

Yes, the dog, a highly trained Black Lab used for retrieving. Especially things thrown by the owner. You guessed it, the dog takes off at a high rate of doggy speed on the ice and captures the stick of dynamite with the burning 40-second fuse about the time it hits the ice. The two men yell, scream, wave arms and wonder what to do now. The dog, cheered on, keeps coming. One of the guys grabs the shotgun and shoots the dog. The shotgun is loaded with # 8 duck shot, hardly big enough to stop a Black Lab. The dog stops for a moment, slightly confused, but continues coming. Another shot and this time the dog, still standing, becomes really confused and of course terrified, thinking these two Nobel Prize winners have gone insane. The dog takes off to find cover, (with the now really short fuse burning on the stick of dynamite) and gets under the brand new Cherokee. ---- BOOM! Dog and Cherokee are blown to bits and sink to the bottom of the lake in a very large hole, leaving the two idiots standing there with this "I can't believe this happened" look on their faces. The insurance company says that sinking a vehicle in a lake by illegal use of explosives is not covered. A N D ......... He still had to make those $400+ a month payments!!

And you thought your day was not going well!!

WAYNE <*(((((<<<

You raise excellent points

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Posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 23:59:31:

In Reply to: Re: I disagree posted by Kevin on April 05, 2000 at 22:32:44:

But with the current trend towards "low-impact" activities in protected areas, does hunting fit in? It is a personal viewpoint, but I just don't feel that hunting, along with other activites such as logging, etc. have a place in parks. The only way I can see hunting working in parks is if it is conducted on a very limited basis with stringent draws.

Re: I disagree

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Posted by Kevin on April 05, 2000 at 22:32:44:

In Reply to: I disagree posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 21:38:01:

Glenn; With your key word being "necessary" , is it necessary to allow people to roam through the parks at all? Lets let everyone in so all can enjoy or kick everyone out to keep things equal.

Re: New Winchester Partition Gold Sabot Slug

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Posted by Shooter on April 05, 2000 at 22:07:46:

In Reply to: New Winchester Partition Gold Sabot Slug posted by Andy on April 05, 2000 at 11:06:11:

ONT distributors are pretty tight.... I get all my "try me" stuff from the US factory reps or PR folks contracted by the US companies.

Shooter

Re: I disagree again

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Posted by Shooter on April 05, 2000 at 22:05:16:

In Reply to: I disagree posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 21:38:01:

Parks are designed for multi purpose use.... the key is "use". Only someone else decided it wont be used for hunting.... BS! There is no preservation going on, only restricted use....

Shooter

I disagree

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Posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 21:38:01:

In Reply to: Re: Should hunting be allowed in provincial parks? posted by Kevin on April 05, 2000 at 18:53:10:

Parks were created with the express purpose of preserving the small fragments of "wilderness" that remain. General crown land does not fall into this category. Is it really necessary to have hunting in protected areas when there are already vast acreages of crown land available?

Re: Should hunting be allowed in provincial parks?

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Posted by Kevin on April 05, 2000 at 18:53:10:

In Reply to: Should hunting be allowed in provincial parks? posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 17:37:38:

Parks are Crown Land and should be open to all residents of the province to be used for any type of recreation including hunting.

Should hunting be allowed in provincial parks?

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Posted by glenn on April 05, 2000 at 17:37:38:

This hunter says no. Parks, especially wilderness parks, should be managed in a manner that minimizes the impact of humans upon the landscape and wildlife. Yes, periodic culls are required in parks such Rondeau to control certain wildlife populations, but widespread hunting in provincial parks is a bad idea. First, there is no sound biological reason for hunting in most cases. Moose hunting in Algonquin? Why? The moose are in tune with their predators and habitat without the intervention of humans. I suspect the same is also true in virtually all of the northen parks. Second, this could turn out to be a public relations nightmare for hunters. There is certainly going to be a public backlash against hunting in parks and it will serve to further darken the image of hunting that the general public holds. Thus, I believe hunting in provincial is not benefically to either the parks or hunting in general. I say oppose it.

New Winchester Partition Gold Sabot Slug

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Posted by Andy on April 05, 2000 at 11:06:11:

Anybody know where I can get my hands on some of these to try? Ontario suppliers? Mail Order?

Re: gun bluing

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Posted by Karl on April 05, 2000 at 10:03:26:

In Reply to: Re: gun bluing posted by steve on March 28, 2000 at 03:20:31:

I have done a few and the most important thing is getting the barrel or reciever looking as good as you can before applying the bluing. After the barrel was clean I used a buffing wheel and polish.

Re: Big Buck Day

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Posted by Karl on April 05, 2000 at 09:57:55:

In Reply to: Big Buck Day posted by Steve on March 28, 2000 at 08:14:10:

I wish I had of known earlier. Would have gone sorry I missed it.

Re: I'm Back.

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Posted by REVENUER on April 05, 2000 at 07:54:17:

In Reply to: I'm Back. posted by Claude on April 04, 2000 at 08:51:28:

Why smuggle cigars when you can buy qualitiy Cuban cigars here that you can't get in the good old USA!!!!!!!!!

Re: moose application

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Posted by mike on April 05, 2000 at 07:06:05:

In Reply to: moose application posted by Alain on April 03, 2000 at 06:58:20:

They will be out next weeek the printer made a mistake on the 1 st patch so look for them next week... just heard that on the news....

I'm Back.

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Posted by Claude on April 04, 2000 at 08:51:28:

In Reply to: Woodchucks and the law posted by Claude Gatewood on March 12, 2000 at 19:58:27:

I forgot where this site was! Yup next time bookmark for sure. In answer to a couple of questions, I'm from Ohio- I'd probabaly come up thru Niagara. I'd only bring one rifle and smuggle some cigars for personal consumption! Thanks for the tip on Crown (forested) lands, not too many groundhogs there. Well, now if I get the time I'll start getting it all together for a trip-this summer if I'm lucky thanks for the replys- Claude

Re: Trigger locks

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Posted by Walter Williams on April 03, 2000 at 11:08:54:

In Reply to: Re: Trigger locks posted by Rick Teal on September 21, 1999 at 22:36:26:

Walter Williams

To keep and bear arms

http://www.jewishworldreview.com -- WHENEVER THERE'S A TRAGEDY involving gun use, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, the gun-control lobby and the news media seize it as another opportunity to exploit the emotions of uninformed American people for political gain.

Unfortunately, most Americans don't have the foggiest notion of why the Framers of the Constitution, through the Second Amendment, guaranteed our right to keep and bear arms. Our leftist establishment would like us to believe the Second Amendment was written to protect our duck- and deer-hunting rights. Don't take my word --- read what was actually said during the constitutional debates.

Thomas Jefferson said: "No man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Tench Coxe, assistant secretary of the treasury (1789), said, "The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in G-d it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."

Noah Webster said, "The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."

In Federalist Paper No. 46, James Madison said the Constitution "preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition. ..."

Numerous sentiments like these were expressed during the constitutional debates. Here's my question to you: Which one of those statements sounds like the Framers had deer- and duck-hunting in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment? The Framers gave us the Second Amendment so we could have at least a last-ditch fighting chance against government encroachment on our liberties.

Who are the people who desperately want to disarm law-abiding Americans?

The answer doesn't require rocket science to figure that one out. The strongest advocates of gun control are the very people who seek greater and greater control over our lives. They're the people who want to take away our rights to property, freedom of speech and religion, and other liberties. They're cowards and want to feel safe doing so. They figure if we're first disarmed they can trample over our liberties with impunity.

If these people had guts and a modicum of respect for the Constitution, they'd seek repeal of the Second Amendment. Instead, they pursue an agenda to repeal it by stealth. The latest attempts are the suits against arms manufacturers for crimes committed with guns.

Last week, gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson caved in to this pressure by signing a voluntary gun-control agreement with the Clinton-Gore administration. That "voluntary" agreement seeks to force arms manufacturers to do what today's laws do not require and create an "oversight commission" to ensure compliance..

Arms manufacturers Glock Inc. and Browning refused to sign the agreement. In response, New York's Attorney General Eliot Spitzer told them, "If you do not sign, your bankruptcy lawyers will be knocking at your door." That kind of official threat is an indication of just how bold and emboldened America's tyrants have become in the wake of our acquiescence -- threatening destruction of people who refuse to go along with "voluntary" agreements.

We Americans have set dangerous precedents. We can rest assured that those pushing for gun control have no intention of stopping short of total gun confiscation. At some point, we who cherish liberty must summon the courage of our forefathers and tell America's tyrants, "Give me liberty, or give me death!" The longer we wait, the greater the ultimate bloodshed.

Re: moose application

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on April 03, 2000 at 10:21:21:

In Reply to: moose application posted by Alain on April 03, 2000 at 06:58:20:

This isn't much help, but it's got to be soon. The close date is usually near the end of May.

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303British.com

moose application

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Posted by Alain on April 03, 2000 at 06:58:20:

Does any one know, as of what date the Moose applications becomes available??

HUNTING WITH HOUNDS

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Posted by Lucy Gannon on April 02, 2000 at 10:07:57:

In Reply to: Hunting with hounds not so bad posted by Fischer on September 17, 1999 at 10:55:47:

I THINK THAT HUNTING WITH HOUNDS IS CRUEL.I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT.PLEASE STOP IT.IT IS NOT FAIR ON THE FOXES.

HUNTING WITH HOUNDS

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Posted by Lucy Gannon on April 02, 2000 at 10:06:55:

In Reply to: Hunting with hounds not so bad posted by Fischer on September 17, 1999 at 10:55:47:

I THINK THAT HUNTING WITH HOUNDS IS CRUEL.I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT.STOP IT RIGHT NOW.OR ELSE.

PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO FISH, HUNT AND EAT MEAT

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Posted by Fischer on March 30, 2000 at 12:12:02:

Attached is an e-mail that I have sent to Justice Minister Anne McLellan concerning the proposed amendments to the Criminal Code regarding Cruelty to Animals. Feel free to plagiarize it, but be sure to add your own comments, so that it is more effective. Form letters tend to get ignored.

The Animal Alliance of Canada, an animal rights group, makes it clear that they intend to use these amendments to go after activities that THEY consider cruel.

Write Minister McLellan, and your own MP to voice your concern. Copy it to OFAH, or any other outdoor organization you wish. I've included Gerry Breitkreuz, Canadian Alliance Party MP, due to the concern that this may also lead to confiscation of firearms from law-abiding citizens.

You can find your own MP at: http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/senmemb/house/MemberList.asp?Lang=E e-mail to:

webadmin@justice.gc.ca McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ofah@ofah.org Breitkreuz.G@parl.gc.ca

I am deeply concerned about the proposed amendments to the Criminal Code covering Cruelty to Animals.

While I understand that the Minister’s position is that these amendments will close loopholes in the law, I am concerned that the amendments will open much greater loopholes, and leave large numbers of law-abiding citizens in danger of losing their livelihood and hobbies, due to abuses of the proposed law by special interest groups.

Why is there no definition of the terms “viciously or brutally”? This proposed amendment, without clear definitions, leaves the door open to prosecution of veterinarians, farmers, anglers, hunters, abattoir operators and others for simply engaging in what have, until now, been fair and justifiable practices. Without clear definition, an animal rights group or individual could prosecute any of these individuals for cruelty, simply on the basis of their perception of these practices.

Previously, the Criminal Code made a clear distinction between domestic animals and wildlife in captivity and free-ranging wildlife. It acknowledged that in the fair pursuit of fish and game animals, that unfortunate circumstances arise where an animal may not be killed quickly or humanely. The proposed definition of animal no longer makes this distinction. The proposed change could make it possible to prosecute a hunter or angler for simply killing an animal, whether it was killed humanely or not. It could also be possible to prosecute any of the other groups mentioned for killing an animal, for any purpose.

The Minister has stated her position that this is not the intent of the proposed changes. However, this is not reflected in the new law! Whatever the Minister’s intent is, does not matter if it is not clearly listed as an exemption!

Why did the Minister accept 17 of 18 of the recommendations of animal rights groups? Civilization has evolved with an ethic of animal welfare, including the wise use, but not abuse, of animals. Animal rights groups have clearly stated their intent is to eliminate ALL use of animals by humankind. Consider this quote from the Animal Alliance of Canada website http://www.animalalliance.ca/urgent.py, on this issue:

"Letter writing tips for this issue:  The amendments are primarily concerned with non-industry animal abuse situations. For the sake of ensuring that stronger penalties are introduced for victims of non-industry cruelty, please refrain from focusing on these issues. Keep in mind that the more we remind them these changes may apply to industry practices, the more they will be inclined to bend to industry pressure. In other words, do not focus on animals in research food animals, animals in entertainment or other institutionalized cruelty in your letter." (emphasis mine)

The AAC does not want to invite opposition from industry groups, for fear the law would be clarified and exemptions clearly stated. Clearly, their intent is to use the proposed law to target "industry practices" or "institutionalized cruelty".

Why has the Minister ignored recommendations from organizations involved in the humane use of animals?

Hunting is the single greatest justification for the lawful possession of firearms by civilians. Is the Minister’s intent to eliminate hunting, thereby eliminating any need for lawful possession of firearms, leading to total confiscation?

I would appreciate a response to my concerns.

Your name, address and e-mail

cc: MP YOUR MP MP Gerry Breitkreuz Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters

Re: The spring bear hunt ban

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Posted by mike on March 30, 2000 at 03:29:45:

In Reply to: The spring bear hunt ban posted by Kevin on March 29, 2000 at 22:37:44:

E$ - mail him plus pass it on to other hunters...

Re: Hat's for hide's

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Posted by wayne on March 30, 2000 at 01:53:45:

In Reply to: Hat's for hide's posted by Muskokajo on February 19, 2000 at 07:46:17:

Why would you want to turn your hide in ?You yhen have to pay (tax dollars) to have it tanned then given to the indians free of charge.

Re: My FAC is valid, should I be....

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Posted by Wayne on March 30, 2000 at 01:34:01:

In Reply to: My FAC is valid, should I be.... posted by sheephunter on March 09, 2000 at 20:15:08:

Dont forget you have to take the written test before you apply for your new fac.

The spring bear hunt ban

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Posted by Kevin on March 29, 2000 at 22:37:44:

Send Mike a message. It`s free.

Write Mike

Re: turkey in guelph area

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 29, 2000 at 20:49:20:

In Reply to: turkey in guelph area posted by mumbo on March 29, 2000 at 17:17:14:

I live in Guelph and have seen them around. I have taken the course but haven't been out yet (going on 5 Yrs now)

I did see them, but I don't know who's property. I don't know what the official name of the road is (north of town),,,, but the one running west from Hwy 6 @ .... past the Guelph township conservation park towards 86 Hwy.

Now.... on that road between Silvercreek and 86, on the south side there are a number of houses.I believe there are older brick ones (near the road) and somewhere in there, is a new one (couple yrs old at most.

If you stand in front of that new one and face the house (south) they were at the edge of the bush at about 11 or 10 oclock from there.

If I remember correctly, there was five or six.

I had my mini binoc's but couldn't see much detail. the bush is at least 175 yds. off the road.

Good Luck and let me know what you find.

Tack

Re: turkey hunters

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Posted by mumbo on March 29, 2000 at 17:19:49:

In Reply to: turkey hunters posted by steve on March 24, 2000 at 04:07:21:

get youself a hs strutt undertaker. le baron has the best price for them.they are awsome. 90% at 40 yds.

turkey in guelph area

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Posted by mumbo on March 29, 2000 at 17:17:14:

I am trying to find an area in and around the guelph area to do some turkey hunting. any suggestions please?

Big Buck Day

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Posted by Steve on March 28, 2000 at 08:14:10:

The South Central Ontario Big Game Association is hosting their annual Big Buck Day at the Little Britain Community Center on Sunday April 2. Doors open at 9 am and you must register before noon if your deer is to be eligible for any prizes. Categories for typical and non-typical whitetails and new this year is a moose category.

There's breakfast and lunch, a turkey calling contest and door prizes. It's usually a really good day out. Little Britain is about 20 minutes north of Port Perry.

Re: gun bluing

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Posted by steve on March 28, 2000 at 03:20:31:

In Reply to: gun bluing posted by Shooter on March 27, 2000 at 14:57:32:

the best results i've found was to clean the barrel with muratic acid. it clean all the little rust pits and blueing. be cafull to do it in a well ventalated area as the fumes are bad. I just finished a pitted barrel and it looks dam good.

Re: Turkey Hunting in Kingston

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Posted by Dave on March 27, 2000 at 20:29:41:

In Reply to: Re: Turkey Hunting in Kingston posted by bowhunter on March 27, 2000 at 11:02:22:

I've been to that little chunk of land. There a enough ducks and grouse on it, but I haven't seen any turkeys. Whats the best way to locate them if they are there? I might take out a call, but I've never done it before and could use some advice on which call to buy and best times of day to try. What is the best turkey habitat?

Re: Turkey Hunting in Kingston

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Posted by Ken Flieger on March 27, 2000 at 16:30:59:

In Reply to: Turkey Hunting in Kingston posted by Dave on March 26, 2000 at 01:19:21:

Hi Dave,

I have a cottage in the area and have for the last 3 years seen an increasing number of birds. So much that last year they opened a season in our area. Check with the MNR, they have crown land maps that you can hunt on. Balls Outdoor Sales in Godfrey is the weigh station in the area, you may want to start checking in there to see how the hunters are doing.

Re: PHEASANT HUNTING

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Posted by B McCann on March 27, 2000 at 15:32:37:

In Reply to: Re: PHEASANT HUNTING posted by Stephen on March 27, 2000 at 07:28:03:

One that I hunt at is Pineridge Hunting Preserve just north of Port Perry. Right now they have Chukar Partridge but summer/fall they have pheasant. Pineridge has a variety of fields and as a big plus during the hotter months running water on the property to cool the dogs. The owners name is Mike Pallotta (905) 895-8824.

gun bluing

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Posted by Shooter on March 27, 2000 at 14:57:32:

Has anyone ever had decent success re-bluing a barrel a reciever?? I have done it a couple times but it looks blotchy.... dark blue.... light blue etc. I am using Berchwood Casey Perma Blue liquid. I wire wheel the old finish off, clean it with a degreaser and apply the bluing with a small foam brush then buff it up and i dont like the results.

What is hot bluing??? is it better? easier? hints? tips?

Shooter

Re: Turkey Hunting in Kingston

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Posted by bowhunter on March 27, 2000 at 11:02:22:

In Reply to: Turkey Hunting in Kingston posted by Dave on March 26, 2000 at 01:19:21:

Turkey populations seem to be ever increasing around Kingston, however I am not aware of any public areas where they can be hunted. There used to be a public pheasant hunting area near Gananaque. MNR turned responsibility of this hunting area over to a private venture a number of years ago. I don't know if it still exists or if there are turkeys around it. Best bet is to check things out with the local MNR office.

Re: looking for scope

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Posted by Alain on March 27, 2000 at 09:25:07:

In Reply to: Re: looking for scope posted by Steve Redgwell on March 18, 2000 at 18:15:04:

thanks for the info steve! much appreciated.

Re: Turkey Hunting in Kingston

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Posted by ????????????? on March 27, 2000 at 07:43:06:

In Reply to: Re: Turkey Hunting in Kingston posted by james cole on March 26, 2000 at 10:41:17:

Did you read his post???????? Orangeville is not even close to Kingston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: PHEASANT HUNTING

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Posted by Stephen on March 27, 2000 at 07:28:03:

In Reply to: PHEASANT HUNTING posted by wtrfwlr_2000 on March 24, 2000 at 21:48:12:

The closest one I know of to Toronto, is in Mount Albert. Look in the classified section in the back of the Ontario Out of Doors magazine, most of the farms advertise there.

Re: Turkey Hunting in Kingston

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Posted by james cole on March 26, 2000 at 10:41:17:

In Reply to: Turkey Hunting in Kingston posted by Dave on March 26, 2000 at 01:19:21:

there is lot of turkeys in orangeville the best is in the area around highway 9 and airport road i saw ten ten yesterday

Turkey Hunting in Kingston

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Posted by Dave on March 26, 2000 at 01:19:21:

Just wondering if anyone knows if there are any good populations of turkeys around kingston and if so where abouts that could be accessed by the public. Thanks

The 303 Epps Tests Begin...

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on March 25, 2000 at 08:29:26:

I was out at the range Friday, fireforming cases for the Epps. Accuracy from the Epps chamber was acceptable for hunting using std 303 British ammunition. I got 6 to 7 inch 10 shot groups from my P-14 at 150 yds. This is good to know should you forget your Epps loads at home and have to buy some 303 British. Of the initial 100 cases, only 3 were lost to splits. The UMC/Remington stuff has always been robust, and I'm happy with the low amount of lost brass. I will repeat this with the No 4 Epps and the work ups will begin in earnest. Range conditions were okay for this time of year. Spring is a strange mix of good and bad weather. The sun was shining, but there was a cold wind blowing all day with wind gusts up to 30 mph. Not condusive to the best accuracy, but my P-14 is a hunting gun. I thought, 'Why not test it under conditions similar to those found during the hunting season?' Great too was to see some of the people that I haven't talked with since last fall.

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303British.com

PHEASANT HUNTING

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Posted by wtrfwlr_2000 on March 24, 2000 at 21:48:12:

Does anyone know any pheasant farms in the toronto area?

turkey hunters

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Posted by steve on March 24, 2000 at 04:07:21:

any one tried the mad choke tubes on the market bought one and I'm not able to get any better results than my full choke. several brands of ammo varied the pattern but not worth the cash. any one else had the chance to try one?

Re: The National

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Posted by Shooter on March 21, 2000 at 20:02:36:

In Reply to: The National posted by TC on March 21, 2000 at 09:38:09:

Yupper..... It was not a pretty sight but matters were made worse when OFAH Rick Morgan went face to face with TO school board chairlady after report on TV. School chair won the mini debate "hands down" in my books. Morgan didnt have any of the appropriate answers.

Knowing Rick, he is very tactical and I am sure "he" got the response from the school boards that he was looking for. Although Morgan seemed to be caught off guard in the TV debate, i havent totally counted him out.

Shooter

The National

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Posted by TC on March 21, 2000 at 09:38:09:

Did anyone watch The National on CBC last night ? They had a report on how Toronto schools are pulling the safe gun handling and hunting book from their libraries because it has 2 or 3 pages on how handguns function......totally ridiculous ...........TC

Smooth Rock Falls area

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Posted by Keith Closs on March 20, 2000 at 14:52:37:

Wanted: Two bedroom accomodation for two away from the smell for the week of Sept. 16 to 23. The better the better.

Re: Ontario Hunting Lodges

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Posted by Jack on March 20, 2000 at 11:33:24:

In Reply to: Ontario Hunting Lodges posted by Stephen on March 20, 2000 at 08:23:28:

Take a look at who owns them, chances are that they are American owned. To be fair to them , if they can get the big bucks from the Yankees and still a a fill rate, why would they want to have Canadians who know a place, have a friend with a place or own their own. Face the economics.

Re: Rabbit Hunts

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Posted by TC on March 20, 2000 at 10:35:27:

In Reply to: Rabbit Hunts posted by Dave on March 19, 2000 at 14:14:18:

I shot some last month ......season ended at the end of Feb. in my area (92)...........TC

Ontario Hunting Lodges

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Posted by Stephen on March 20, 2000 at 08:23:28:

Am I missing the boat or is it just not worth it for ontario hunting lodge operators to try and cater to residents of Ontario? I've considered going off to some of these lodges in order to hunt different areas, but get discouraged whenever I look at their package rates. I can't find anything in Canadian dollars, they all seem to be american. I realize that the us buck would be preferable, but are there any operators who would at least advertise in Canadian?

any comments?

Re: Rabbit Hunts

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Posted by Stephen on March 20, 2000 at 08:09:06:

In Reply to: Rabbit Hunts posted by Dave on March 19, 2000 at 14:14:18:

I was pheasant hunting on a game farm this sunday down in the stratford area. In 4 hours saw 4 nice cottontails. One came charging down a path and almost ran me over. The other guys are still laughing about that one!

Re: Rabbit Hunts

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Posted by Matt Ward on March 19, 2000 at 14:50:58:

In Reply to: Rabbit Hunts posted by Dave on March 19, 2000 at 14:14:18:

My father walked my lab in a forest near our house in Ottawa. My Dad said he got "birdy" and the he flushed a little white bunny out of some bushes.

Matt

Rabbit Hunts

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Posted by Dave on March 19, 2000 at 14:14:18:

I was wondering if anyone has been rabbit hunting lately and how it's been. Also I was wondering if they still have their white winter coats that would make them easy to spot. I'm in the Kingston area and might go out this week. Thanks

TASCO FOR SALE

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Posted by Mike on March 19, 2000 at 06:57:29:

In Reply to: looking for scope posted by Alain on March 18, 2000 at 11:02:59:

I have a Tasco for sale. Tasco wide angle, range finding-trajectory compensating scope, 3-9X40MM, TR39X40WA, 7 range drums, lense covers, excellent condition. Can be see in Brampton. Asking $175.00 OBO

Re: looking for scope

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on March 18, 2000 at 18:15:04:

In Reply to: looking for scope posted by Alain on March 18, 2000 at 11:02:59:

Here's a couple of places that you can try Alain.

Wholesale Sports http://www.wholesalesports.com Russell's http://www.russellsports.com/product.php3 Lock, Stock & Barrel http://www.lockstock.com

The first two are CDN, the last is US. I've ordered quite a bit from them. Their service and prices are good.

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303British.com

looking for scope

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Posted by Alain on March 18, 2000 at 11:02:59:

I am looking for a quality high power scope (1.5x9 or 1.5x5). Does anyone know of a good place where I can find one?? either online shopping or via the mail.

Thanks From the 303 Page

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on March 15, 2000 at 18:23:38:

I wanted to thank everyone that's dropped by the page over the past few months. I've tried to keep up with the emails and will be updating the page very soon.

The No 4 Maintenance Manual is now in use in the US, Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, South Africa and Holland. My thanks for your positive comments about the content. It's good to hear that the manual has helped fix up or adjust your rifles! If you live in Germany, US Books at http://www.usbooks.de will be carrying them soon.

"Shooting the 303 British" finally got off the ground after a small battle with the printer. It was almost 2 years in the making. My apologies to Greg Young at Alaska Enfield HQ. The books will be shipped this week.

For those of you that have been wondering about the 303 Epps trials, they will start soon. The weather is finally beginning to change for the good. I have 500 rds of UMC 303 British ready for fireforming and the range is thawing out!

On a personal note, I'll be moving off the base here at Borden, (Canada) and into the country. The wife and I just bought a house and will be moving in July. That means more time at the range!! I can't wait.

Hope to hear from you soon. Drop by the page when you've got the chance.

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell http://www.303British.com

Re: ... and here.

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Posted by MUSKIEMAN on March 14, 2000 at 17:18:33:

In Reply to: ... and here. posted by Kevin on March 04, 2000 at 21:16:13:

If you are going down to the Toronto Sportmens Show I think you can write it there.

Phone #'s

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Posted by Shotgunner on March 14, 2000 at 11:05:03:

Does anyone have the phone number for the fireing rangein Brampton? Thank you for your help.

Lac Seul

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Posted by Greg Bayer on March 13, 2000 at 13:42:10:

Hi. On Sept 16-23, 2000, I will be staying at Evergreen Lodge on Lac Seul. I will be hunting ruffed grouse and ducks, and fishing for walleyes. Does anyone have any experience on Lac Seul? What can I expect in terms of grouse and ducks? How's the fishing? Thanks!

Re: Woodchucks and the law

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Posted by mike on March 13, 2000 at 11:08:58:

In Reply to: Re: Woodchucks and the law posted by Tackleberry on March 13, 2000 at 07:19:57:

First of all you can get all your answer at Peterboro in there new building on Water St.. Bancroft is out of your way. As for crown land most of it is forest i would get to know some of the farmers and get there permission to hunt on there land you will have better luck there...

Re: duck, geese and partridge hunting

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Posted by Gegs on March 13, 2000 at 08:29:39:

In Reply to: duck, geese and partridge hunting posted by Doug Aitken on September 22, 1999 at 10:10:33:

duck hunting in Manitoba

Re: Woodchucks and the law

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 13, 2000 at 07:19:57:

In Reply to: Re: Woodchucks and the law posted by Tackleberry on March 12, 2000 at 20:20:23:

I just remembered, if you're looking for maps of crown land tracks you have to contact the local/regional MNR office. For Peterborough I think that's Bancroft Office.

Re: Woodchucks and the law

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 12, 2000 at 20:20:23:

In Reply to: Woodchucks and the law posted by Claude Gatewood on March 12, 2000 at 19:58:27:

Claude, your best reference is right here at the top of this page by the moose. Ministry of Natural Resources (MNR) You can get top maps, base maps & arial photos if you like. Some of those request I find are better made in person at their Head Office in Queen's Park.

As for you questions about restrictions, ..... I'm assuming you're not Canadian, where ya from???? Be glad to help you out.

Tack

tpm@netcom.ca

Woodchucks and the law

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Posted by Claude Gatewood on March 12, 2000 at 19:58:27:

I've got a question. I'd like to head north to shoot some groundhogs this spring in the Petersborough area (or a better one) I'm curious about all the hooplah Ive heard about guns and restrictions lately. Any help would be appreciated. I'm thinking of using the Crown lands. Maps or numbers will the next step I guess. Thanks in advance, CWG

Absolutely

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Posted by sheephunter on March 12, 2000 at 11:08:36:

In Reply to: I can't...!!!.... posted by Tackleberry on March 11, 2000 at 20:26:09:

Tack: you are absolutely right. I'm am short of words here and can't think of a comment as you have pretty well summed it up. But what I said is exactly what I see happening around here and I am doing what I have to do to work and stay leagal, and have always been vocal in pro hunting/guns/trapping. We can no longer be complacent.

Re: gun laws

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Posted by Jack on March 12, 2000 at 08:02:05:

In Reply to: gun laws posted by phil on March 12, 2000 at 01:35:33:

The nice thing for you is you live in Minnesota, where hunting is still a life.In Ontario the southern population centred around cosmopolitan Toronto dictate what laws to impose. They may be a majority by population but do not know the wisdom of the rural habitants. Be plessed that you live in Minnesota, (with Jessie)start your campaign now to support the hunting heritage.From what I have seen you have a good foundation, but don't dwell on it.

gun laws

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Posted by phil on March 12, 2000 at 01:35:33:

I live in Minnesota. I can not believe that you guys in Canada would tolerate the new restirctions on hunting rifles and shotguns. I can see some similar regulations coming in the US for handguns and maybe "assault" type semi auto rifles, but if someone even PROPOSED requiring a licence just to keep the hunting guns we already have , we would LYNCH them.

I can't...!!!....

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 11, 2000 at 20:26:09:

In Reply to: Thanks guys, sure do.... posted by sheephunter on March 11, 2000 at 10:11:11:

Hey Sheephunter, I can't believe what I just read!!!???!!!

It's time for somebody to put a fire under those "old-timers" butts. It is because of attitudes like theirs allows "them" to win. "Ahn daddy, let's go home that team looks too big and mean." All of these guys bellyaching about new laws and restricts their heritage, that's terrible, "we should do something about it" " I know let's give away our heritage" "Ya, that sounds like a good idea, rihgt????"

You know, when they developed C-68 they decided that too many people were not interested in, so why should we force the to know about restricted firearms. So they segragated the program and licencing. I for one resist this by offering a combined firearms safety class. everyone gets a chance at handling the handguns and at least one in each class "upgrade" to restricted licencing. In the old class, I heard too many people say, "that's too much hassle, and BS or running around" Well if anybody wants to exercize their privilage and experience the heritage they will do what is required. I always said, regarding the excusses, there are people in the halls of the Commons in Ottawa saying, "See it's working" OR in other words, Canadians are so slack that they'll just let us do it and then nobody will have firearms. After all why do you "NEED" one anyway????

Sheephunter , you get ahold of those little winey old-timers and tell them to go ahead and resister the firearms obtain the proper licences. Once they pay the fees they are required to, you know to pay for this cash sponge, turn around and claim all the fees as business expenses. If they are in the business of guide hunting then they will most likely have a firearm, a possession licence at minimum (recommend to have a PAL) don't turn down those deals of a life time from the narrow minded scared non-commited firearms owner. Ammo and other accessories are all required for you employment. (gun cabinets... alarm systems.... use your imagination)

Stay Safe, Shoot Straight, or at least keep on shooting.

Tack

Thanks guys, sure do....

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Posted by sheephunter on March 11, 2000 at 10:11:11:

In Reply to: Re: My FAC is valid, should I be.... posted by Tackleberry on March 11, 2000 at 01:24:14:

Again, thanks for the time taken to respond. I will be leaving for camp in early July and won't get back until late Sept., early October so I will be taking the stance of applying before I leave. I hate what is going on here in Ontario. I have lost my bear hunt, they are trying to get my guns, they are forcing me to do what I don't feel in "right" and they are trying to put me out of business. As an outfitter I cannot afford to wait to see if they will charge me. In doing so, they will most definitely defeat me in not allowing me to provide for my family. Unfortunately in our area, "the old timers" have given up and their guns are being burried, thrown in lakes and given away. Our numbers are dropping rapidly primarily all because of C-68. They are winning, whoever "they" are. We know who "we" are and we need to become more vocal and more seen. Let's get out of the closets. Oh, sorry, sorry, kinda got carried away.. know what I mean?

Re: My FAC is valid, should I be....

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 11, 2000 at 01:24:14:

In Reply to: Re: My FAC is valid, should I be.... posted by Wes Prosser on March 10, 2000 at 20:54:29:

Points well taken.

I just realized one other example I should have used. C-68 defunked the "FAC", the reason why we could still use it for the past year or so is because the ones just issued would expire about the time the transition period is ending. OR that's the reason for the date chosen to end the transition period. The legislation was written such that due to the "recent" issuing of new FAC's, these will be deemed as possession /aquisition licences (restricted level) for the purposes the transition.

In other words they were really really nice and didn't force you to get a new licence after you just got a new licence. :-)

Which strengthens Wes' possission of "no excuses" I agree, see my unintentional almost falme about "us Canadians" that pretty much says the same as his message.

In these post I was wanting to make it clear that you "shouldn't" have criminal proccedings against you given the requirements stated.

Nice chating with you Wes, drop me a line sometime.

Stay Safe, Shoot Straight, Tack

tpm@netcom.ca

Re: My FAC is valid, should I be....

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Posted by Wes Prosser on March 10, 2000 at 20:54:29:

In Reply to: Re: My FAC is valid, should I be.... posted by Tackleberry on March 10, 2000 at 08:20:11:

I agree, but the area I recommend caution is to accept the idea that if it is mailed by Dec 31 that you are covered. If I mail my driver's licence the day before my birthday, I do not have a valid reason to drive on an expired licence. If I apply for my fishing licence on Dec 31, I do not have a valid reason for fishing without a licence on Jan 1. If I mail my application a firearms licence on Dec 30/00 and do not have a licence on Jan 2.2001, I cannot blame the sytem, I must blame myself. That is why I say to use caution on when you apply. There may be a backlog, there may not be, but which would you rather do, apply early, get your licence and be safe, or apply late, gamble on the court accepting the defense that it was caused by a backlog, hire a lawyer to fight the case and have to go to court. I prefer the first. We know we need the licence by December 31st and it is up to each person to ensure they have met the law, like it or not. I feel it is unwise to leave it to the last minute and gamble that the court will have sympathy. After all, the law has been in place since Dec 1/98 and the cour may very well say that you have had more that enough time to apply and get your licence regardless of the backlog. To each his own.(I got mine already)

Re: My FAC is valid, should I be....

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 10, 2000 at 08:20:11:

In Reply to: Re: My FAC is valid, should I be.... posted by Wes Prosser on March 09, 2000 at 21:00:20:

True Wes, I agree, no licence means no ammo purchase. I also agree that the application does not mean approval.

However, the CPFO's office, spacifically Walley Bauman, stated in the re-certification class that as long as the application was submitted prior to the expiry date, the applicant would not be held responsible for, or penalized for any back log or short comings of the system.

Thus, the possession after the expiry date is not an issue as long as there is proof of an application in the system.

Stay Safe, Tack

Re: CRTC AND GLOBAL

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Posted by bob on March 10, 2000 at 06:50:37:

In Reply to: CRTC AND GLOBAL posted by BOB on March 10, 2000 at 06:24:29:

How to file an official complaint http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ENG/INFO_SHT/G8e.htm

CRTC AND GLOBAL

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Posted by BOB on March 10, 2000 at 06:24:29:

webmaster@crtc.gc.ca YES THATS THE CRTC EMAIL. COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CURRENT POLL ON GLOBAL TV'S OTTAWA SITE. IT HAS NO ANSWERS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT CURRENT GUN LEGISLATION

YELLOW JOUNALISM

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Posted by BOB on March 10, 2000 at 06:14:39:

EVERY ANSWER ON THE POLL ON HTTP://OTTAWA.GLOBALTV.COM SUPPORTS CURRENT LEGISLATION. WRITE THE CRTC.

Sorry

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Posted by Outdoorsman on March 09, 2000 at 22:45:43:

Ontario Hunting page users,

Sorry if I upset anyone by advertising my message board on the Ontario Hunting page. I'll try to be more considerate in the future.

Outdoorsman

Re: My FAC is valid, should I be....

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Posted by Wes Prosser on March 09, 2000 at 21:00:20:

In Reply to: Re: My FAC is valid, should I be.... posted by Tackleberry on March 09, 2000 at 20:53:18:

I would use caution. Unlike the FAC system, where an application being received before the expiry of the FAC was considered continuous for the purpose of fee and the 28 day waiting period, the new laws require that you have a licence to possess the firearm. An application sent before your expiry date in November could still leave you without a licence by January if there is a big back log. No licence means, no ammo, and illegal possession of the firearms. An application sent does not mean the licence will be approved.

Re: My FAC is valid, should I be....

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 09, 2000 at 20:53:18:

In Reply to: My FAC is valid, should I be.... posted by sheephunter on March 09, 2000 at 20:15:08:

There have been problems associated with the procedures in the past. For example the machine that made the cards was down that created a three month backlog.

That is only an issue if you're looking to aquire.

You are NOT penalized if the expiry date is past and you have not recieved the new licence from the feds yet.

NOTE: What MUST HAPPEN, is they must recieve your application prior to that expiry date.

Hope that covers your concern, Tack

Quebec Caribou Hunt

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Posted by sheephunter on March 09, 2000 at 20:18:57:

Is anyone planning to book a caribou hunt for this fall at the Toronto Sportsman Show? If you would like some information, please e-mail me.

My FAC is valid, should I be....

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Posted by sheephunter on March 09, 2000 at 20:15:08:

My current F.A.C. is valid until 2000-11-21. Should I be doing something now to be ready for the next step so that I don't get caught without whatever it is I'll need at that time?

Re: Bow Hunters

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Posted by Jimmy Crack Corn on March 09, 2000 at 13:27:42:

In Reply to: Re: Bow Hunters posted by Mike_/` on September 13, 1999 at 13:44:13:

Ya all ara bancha homoers nobadaia wanats to talka to youa ya druank bastaerd.

Aud. Gen. delays C-68 Audit

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Posted by Fischer on March 09, 2000 at 11:15:51:

I saw a news report that the Auditor General is going to delay an audit of the new Firearms Act, until it has been more fully implemented.

This stinks of interference from the PMO. I guess they figure that by then, they will have found a rug big enough to sweep it all under!

Waste is waste. The program has already cost 4 times more than originally estimated and has registered less than 1.5 % of the firearms out there. Most that have been registered to this point are firearms belonging to police depts. or those that have been imported since the Dec./98 implementation (though with the recent reports of Washington stopping gun and ammo exports to Canada, you can see they've managed to screw that up, too!)

new message board on fishing, hunting and the outdoors.

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Posted by Outdoorsman on March 09, 2000 at 10:07:08:

This is a new message board that I just created. You can't find it on a normal search engine. When you find it please bookmark it and tell others to about it and to bookmark it. The address is http://pub8.ezboard.com/baz36924. Check it out and thanks in advance. Outdoorsman

FOR SALE

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Posted by Mike on March 09, 2000 at 09:45:17:

I have the following items for sale, if anybody is interested, email me.

1) 4x8 flatbed snowmobile trailer, tilt - swivel bed with removable sides. Spare tire. Good working condition. $325 or best offer.

2) Hidden Hitch Class 1 trailer hitch & draw bar. Used twice. Paid $180 asking $100 or best offer. Fits 1995 - 1999 Caviler or Sunfire.

Both items can be seen in Brampton.......thanks..........Mike

Spring Trkey hunt

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Posted by jim on March 09, 2000 at 01:17:26:

Does anyone know of/ have information on turkey hunting in central/eastern Ontario. I'm looking for a good location or someone who would guide my brother and I. We both work at a white water rafting company on the Ottawa river and would be willing to work out some sort of deal for a good location or guide. Thanks. Jim. PS This is a great group, I enjoy reading all the comments and how all the other hunters are doing.

Re: Snow Geese

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Posted by The Canada Goose on March 08, 2000 at 17:20:03:

In Reply to: Snow Geese posted by Nick on March 05, 2000 at 22:21:10:

Well I have seen an average of one two snow geese a year and I have even seen a blue goos(color phase of the Snow goose). There are actualy two subspecies of snow geese the lesser snow goos, wich lives in the west and the Greater snow goose wich nests in the James bay region and heads for Chesapeak bay right over southeastern Ontario and Quebec (they suposedly make a stop in Quebec for a couple of weeks)

Here is my e-mail to Global TV

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Posted by Fischer on March 08, 2000 at 09:17:24:

In Reply to: Hey guys go vote, we need to support each other. posted by Bob on March 06, 2000 at 12:30:55:

I'd respectfully suggest that you all send a similar e-mail. The address is: ibsadmin@ibsys.com

Re: Handgun poll

This poll is biased and unfair!

Where are the options to vote for: enforcement of existing laws, hold criminals responsible for their crimes? Or the option to vote for this government to stop wasting money on a gun registration scheme that will do nothing to prevent crime, and call on them to spend these wasted millions on more effective policing of existing laws!!

NONE of the recent handgun incidents in Canada or the US has anything to do with LAWFUL handgun ownership and use!

However, by presenting "Do nothing" as the only option for a law-abiding citizen to oppose further wasteful legislation or an outright ban on legitimate possession, simply demonizes those citizens as being callous and unconcerned about this very real TRAGEDY and the CRIMES that led up to it!

You should be ashamed. Why not simply place an editorial statement positioning yourself as soft on criminals and hard on law-abiding citizens?

I can't vote. There are no reasonable options!

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Posted by Fischer on March 08, 2000 at 08:52:25:

In Reply to: Hey guys go vote, we need to support each other. posted by Bob on March 06, 2000 at 12:30:55:

Here are the choices:

In light of recent events involving handguns here and in the United States, Canada should:

Do nothing Tighten registration Develop 'Smart Gun' technology Ban handguns altogether

Where are the options to: Tighten enforcement of existing laws, Stop plea-bargaining charges away, Actually hold criminals responsible for their crimes?

Re: Snow Geese

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Posted by Dave on March 07, 2000 at 22:02:01:

In Reply to: Snow Geese posted by Nick on March 05, 2000 at 22:21:10:

Seen 1 snow in the Brampton area a few years back, mixed in with a bunch of Canada`s and mallards, seen a pintail this year,

20 white geese per day in Sask. with a poss. limit of 60, its pretty hard to kill 20 white geese in a day, way to smart for decoying, got get them on a bad weather day, high winds, fog,etc ... we have hunted them for a number of years in Sask. never shoot more then 15 on a good day, maybe the electronic calling will be allowed soon. what site it is to have thousands of birds come over top of u.

Dave

Re: Snow Geese

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Posted by Shooter on March 07, 2000 at 17:16:12:

In Reply to: Snow Geese posted by Nick on March 05, 2000 at 22:21:10:

very very seldom see them here around Lake St Clair. If we get some real strong nor'westers for a few days they will scatter into the fields but promptly leave after a restup. Never shot one.

Have seen the odd one smattered in with the Canada's at Jack Miners sanctuary in Kingsville.

swans are here bigtime right now. Canada's also are moving through.

If i had the cash... saskatchewan.... 18 snow geese a day limit per person.

shooter www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot

Re: Columbine Perspective

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Posted by DC on March 06, 2000 at 21:08:34:

In Reply to: Columbine Perspective posted by Horntrip on February 23, 2000 at 15:38:41:

For validity, here is the web site. http://www.thecolumbineredemption.com/

Re: Firearms Licences

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Posted by Wes Prosser on March 06, 2000 at 20:39:29:

In Reply to: Re: Firearms Licences posted by Paolo on March 05, 2000 at 23:15:36:

If you have taken the Canadian Firearms Safety Course test, you do not have to take it again In that case,you can wait until your FAC is going to expire before you get a licence. If you have never passed the test, you will have to get your POL by the end of December or you cannot get one and they you will have to take the test and get a PAL. POLs will be renewed after this year, but new ones will not be issued.

Re: Snow Geese

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Posted by Matt Ward on March 06, 2000 at 20:13:38:

In Reply to: Snow Geese posted by Nick on March 05, 2000 at 22:21:10:

About 10 years ago I saw a flock of about 250 land and rest in Lake Dore (near Pembroke). They stayed for a few hours and left. My buddies have shot a few near here (Ottawa) and I have seen them around too. A girl who I go to school with, her father has 1000 acres near Hawlksbury and she has showed me pictures of thousands of snows in the fields. A guy I talk to shot a hybrid half Canada half Speckle Belly. The MNR said it was a one in 50,000 bird.

Matt

Hey guys go vote, we need to support each other.

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Posted by Bob on March 06, 2000 at 12:30:55:

http://www.ottawa.globaltv.com/

Re: Hunting with hounds not so bad

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Posted by steve white on March 06, 2000 at 07:27:18:

In Reply to: Hunting with hounds not so bad posted by Fischer on September 17, 1999 at 10:55:47:

Can not connect with the address given above. looking for information regarding hunting with hounds for current debate. any information for the support of hunting with hounds would be greatly recieved.

Re: Snow Geese

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Posted by Kevin on March 06, 2000 at 07:26:22:

In Reply to: Snow Geese posted by Nick on March 05, 2000 at 22:21:10:

Nick; The Snow`s nest as far north as the Canadian Arctic. There have always been a few flocks go through Ontario but the larger flocks come down through western Canada. It`s pretty common to see them mixed in with the Canada`s at times.

Re: Firearms Licences

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Posted by Paolo on March 05, 2000 at 23:15:36:

In Reply to: Re: Firearms Licences posted by Tackleberry on March 05, 2000 at 18:04:23:

Must a course be taken to get a PAL if your FAC is still valid?My FAC doesn't expire till 2001 so my dilema is either get a possesion only before this years deadline or get a possesion and aquisition only if I don't have to take the course.

Snow Geese

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Posted by Nick on March 05, 2000 at 22:21:10:

A question for all of you waterfowl hunters out there !! I have been seeing some Snow Geese mixed in with Canada Geese over the past while (during the late season hunt) and I'm wondering if anyone else has seen any as this is the first year I have seen them and in the fair numbers. They have been spotted as far East as in the Port Hope area and I have seen them in Peterborough and in the Bowmanville and Pickering areas. Any help or information would be great as I did not think they were this far north ??

Nick

Re: Firearms Storage ???

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 05, 2000 at 18:08:40:

In Reply to: Firearms Storage ??? posted by Horntrip on March 05, 2000 at 08:41:05:

Horntip,

Just left you a reply .... for this .... I haven't heard anything specific ti storage. What I have been informed of though is the Feds have suspended, indefinitly the section relating to crossbows as mentioned in C-68. There was nop time frame placed on it. Could start next week or 10 years. you take a guess.

Tack

Re: Firearms Licences

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 05, 2000 at 18:04:23:

In Reply to: Re: Firearms Licences posted by Horntrip on March 05, 2000 at 07:45:05:

Yes it still applies.

The class you took will allow you both levels of purchase. You have been tested on this material, right? and you have you JUS332 form from your instructor/examiner. (this is the pink and yellow forms)

Drop by the post office and pickup an application (Aquisition) fill it out (instruction sheet accompanied) get photo (see instructions) and fees. Your file will reflect graduate of test. (check box) (* you are certified for the restricted level, at this point in the grand scheme of things this certification holds until taken away by a "god forbid" court order*)

** As long as they have the application in their hands before the present licence expires, the manditory 28 day waiting period is waved.

Just so you know, some here on this site already know, I'm a CFSC & CRFSC instructor/examiner since 1994.

Good luck, let me know if you need anything else.

Tack

Wanted: Explorer AR-7 .22 Rifle

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Posted by Horntrip on March 05, 2000 at 17:37:47:

Looking to purchase a .22 Rifle that is a takedown model. The one I'm looking for is the Explorer AR-7. Anyone looking to sell contact me at horntrip@hotmail.com. I still have a valid FAC. Thanks.

Kingston Rabbit Hunt

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Posted by Dave on March 05, 2000 at 13:06:27:

Hello Everyone,

I was just wondering if anyone knows of anyplace near Kingston that is okay for rabbit hunting. I'd like to get out this year sometime, but I don't really know where to go. An info would be great. Thanks

Firearms Storage ???

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Posted by Horntrip on March 05, 2000 at 08:41:05:

Just looking for the legal requirements for storing a Crossbow. Is it considered a firearm to the Federal Government the same as it is to the MNR? If so, does it have to be locked in a cabinet, with a trigger lock and the Broadheads locked separately??? Couldn't find anything about it at the CFC web site.

Re: Firearms Licences

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Posted by Horntrip on March 05, 2000 at 07:45:05:

In Reply to: Re: Firearms Licences posted by Tackleberry on March 04, 2000 at 03:28:30:

Tackleberry. Help. You seem to know your stuff. My FAC expires on April 26, 2000, what are my options. I do want to have the ability to purchase more firearms if I chose, even though I haven't yet since I got my FAC this time. When I got this FAC, I had to take a course that included Restricted Firearms (pistols, revolvers), does that make a difference when I reapply? Thanks for the info.

... and here.

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Posted by Kevin on March 04, 2000 at 21:16:13:

In Reply to: Re: Boat Licenses posted by Kevin on March 04, 2000 at 20:51:00:

Click Here

Re: Boat Licenses

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Posted by Kevin on March 04, 2000 at 20:51:00:

In Reply to: Boat Licenses posted by Fisher on March 04, 2000 at 20:27:03:

Click Here

Boat Licenses

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Posted by Fisher on March 04, 2000 at 20:27:03:

I was just wondering if anyone knows when the course for getting your boat operators license is coming to Barrie. thank in advance, Fisher

3 inch rem turkey loads

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Posted by jason on March 04, 2000 at 18:09:48:

please help if you are in a store and see em please post where you seen em cant find em any where thanks jason

Here`s the Link

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Posted by Kevin on March 04, 2000 at 08:38:02:

In Reply to: Poll, please help posted by Bob on March 04, 2000 at 07:23:52:

vote here

Poll, please help

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Posted by Bob on March 04, 2000 at 07:23:52:

WE ARE LOSING!

Please go vote. http://ottawa.globaltv.com

Interesting Stat I Found

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 04, 2000 at 03:39:50:

I was going through my notes the other day from the re-qualification class for the restricted firearms instructor.

This is straight from the Chief Provincial Firearms Officer's office.

Ontario has 51% of all restricted firearms located in this country. We have 49% of the FAC's (this was just before C-68 came into force) or licenced owners.

Now, my question is ...... if you were to take a map of ON and place the Federal Electeral Boundaries and colour them according to the party holding the seat, ..... Why is it SSSOOOO RED ????????

I know why, ..... divide and conquer !!

Shoot Safe, Tack

Re: Firearms Licences

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 04, 2000 at 03:28:30:

In Reply to: Re: Firearms Licences posted by Kevin on March 02, 2000 at 21:03:28:

Kevin, They call it Bill C-68

This is the biggest problem I saw in the fall of 1998. Between Sept. and the end of Dec. my phone wouldn't stop ringing. "I need to get my FAC renewed before they take my guns away" or something similar to that. Just like typical Canadians, (I was born here too) we shake our heads, we complain about a section of a law because a freind heard thru five other friends that they think they heard about a law coming up to stop firearms sales or possession or something like that. "what bull<$(@" and then they go on about their lives and don't think much more about it until the media announces that next week this new law is coming into effect "save society". And the typical response is ....... "Hey, how's that going to effect me????"

Everyone that hunts or shoots that I have spoken to, outside of this forum type, bellyacked but not too many people take the time to find out what's going to happen to their precious heritage. Yes now there is the Canadian Firearms Centre, they produce and distribute all information related to the Firearms Act. Before that, if I heard of a new law or an ammendment coming I placed a call to my MP and had a copy of the bill sent to me. Is everyone out there aware that when Bill C-68 was passed there actually were blank pages in places. ("oh there, don't worry, we'll fill that in later")

I just wish Canadian would stop being so complacent. Oh that's right everyone sure spoke up when the cable companies were jacking the price up didn't they.

FINAL NOTE AND ADVICE:

If you have a valid FAC now, renew it before it expires and the "manditory 28 day waiting period is waved" if it expires then you submit a renewal, it is considered to be a "first time" application and once processed/approved, will be held 28 days. Ensure a two to three month cushion for processing. This time last year there was a three month back log because the machine that printed the cards broke down.

Re: Expired FAC

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 04, 2000 at 03:01:36:

In Reply to: Re: Expired FAC posted by Wes Prosser on March 02, 2000 at 20:19:10:

Wes, What am I hearing?????? :-) ??????

I think you're starting to sound like my wife.

"Do you really "NEED" another one???????"

I would think that if the folks here routinely are not "cassual" users. Having the PAL instead of the POL sure would be handy for that impulsive buying. I sure everyone here can relate in some way.

Seriously.... just having fun. Good advise though. When people call me about the class the first thing I asked them is if they have any back ground, and now, what they intend on doing. Yes I like to get paid to do this, BUT I will not give the impression that "everyone" must attend the class.

I try to lead by example, as I preach in the class. "Be a good embassitor to the sport" That is not done by "gouging" new commers or veterans of the sport.

Shoot Safe, Tack

"Life is tough ... it's alot tougher if you don't know how to shoot."

Re: Columbine Perspective

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Posted by Tackleberry on March 04, 2000 at 02:48:02:

In Reply to: Columbine Perspective posted by Horntrip on February 23, 2000 at 15:38:41:

Amen, .... God Bless You Darell.

Tack

Re: Firearms Licences

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Posted by Kevin on March 02, 2000 at 21:03:28:

In Reply to: Firearms Licences posted by Wes Prosser on March 02, 2000 at 20:27:22:

"When did they do that"?

I heard this again in the coffee shop this morning. Is it any wonder why things are the way they are in this country?

Re: Hunt camp for sale

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Posted by Kevin on March 02, 2000 at 20:58:19:

In Reply to: Re: Hunt camp for sale posted by sheephunter on March 02, 2000 at 19:41:17:

Sheephunter; If you click on the link "Bob`s Camp" in the original post it will take you to my site where there is a picture and information.

Firearms Licences

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Posted by Wes Prosser on March 02, 2000 at 20:27:22:

Under the firearms legislation, if you do not have a firearms licence, which includes a valid FAC by December 31 of this year you are not allowed to own a firearm, borrow a firearm or to buy ammunition. Even those who have owned firearms for years must get eith a "Possession Only" licence or a "Possession and Acquisition" licence by the end of the year. There may be a big rush if you leave it too late.. Start early so you don't spoil your hunting.

Re: Expired FAC

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Posted by Wes Prosser on March 02, 2000 at 20:19:10:

In Reply to: Expired FAC posted by Jack on March 02, 2000 at 09:56:11:

Before you decide to take the CFSC tests, be sure you want to acquire more firearms If you do not want more firearms, get a possession only licence, it is cheaper and does not require the course. forms are the Post Office

Re: Expired FAC

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Posted by Horntrip on March 02, 2000 at 19:48:09:

In Reply to: Expired FAC posted by Jack on March 02, 2000 at 09:56:11:

Jack. Try this web site. Its the site for the Canadian Firearms Center and I think will give you the info. you need. http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/

Re: Hunt camp for sale

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Posted by sheephunter on March 02, 2000 at 19:41:17:

In Reply to: Hunt camp for sale posted by Kevin on February 29, 2000 at 20:20:42:

Please post or e-mail some paticulars. Thanks

Re: Expired FAC

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Posted by Kevin on March 02, 2000 at 12:32:21:

In Reply to: Expired FAC posted by Jack on March 02, 2000 at 09:56:11:

Jack; The FAC is history. Go to the Post Office and pick up an application for a possession only or possession and acquisition licence. Send it in as soon as possible. I hope you have already challenged the test, if you haven`t you will need to do that prior to applying.

Re: Ottawa waterfowler new to forum

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Posted by Shooter on March 02, 2000 at 12:31:27:

In Reply to: Ottawa waterfowler new to forum posted by Matt Ward on March 01, 2000 at 10:42:24:

I live near lake St Clair in the SW. Do a lot of gunning at Rondeau Waterfowl Unit. Shoot the geese up in the St Clair River. Created a informational webpage on this area with a bunch of past articles I have written about hunting and fishing near here. Feel free to visit and welcome to the group!

Shooter

www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot

Re: Expired FAC

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Posted by Shooter on March 02, 2000 at 12:27:19:

In Reply to: Expired FAC posted by Jack on March 02, 2000 at 09:56:11:

No one will contact you about your upcoming expiry. Contact the OMNR in the bluepages of your phone book and they will supply you with a list of firearms instructors in your area. Contact one of those instructors and have them guide you through what is necessary to obtain a new FAC (new Firearms Licence). There are a few variables in obtaining a new Firearms Licence depending on past circumstances. Without going into great detail of those variables, I suggest you contact an area instructor for guidance.

Shooter

Expired FAC

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Posted by Jack on March 02, 2000 at 09:56:11:

Whats my next step? My FAC is to expire in May, what ,where do I go to renew it or will they notify me of the fact it will expire?

Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS

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Posted by Bob on March 01, 2000 at 18:45:12:

In Reply to: Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS posted by Smarter than Some on March 01, 2000 at 07:39:19:

See how easy it is to talk to people when you don't call them morons and idiots? Isn't that better? Fischer hit it on the head when he noted that Canada sells its oil off to the US cheaper than we can buy it here. Why?

The other thing that really ticks me off is that I was down in the US recently. At that time our gas had gone up "only" 10 cents per liter in one week. In the US, it had gone up 4 cents PER GALLON over what it was three years before. Lately, gas has gone up 6 cents per gallon in the US while ours has skyrockted once again. Again I ask "Why?" Why the difference? We are not playing on a level playing field, someone is ripping off the Canadian consumer in gas and oil. Just like the banks are making record profits while laying off clerical staff, providing less service, making it harder for working stiffs to get mortgages while still paying their executives incredible bonuses.

Bell Canada lays off staff and pleads poverty to the CRTC so they can raise our phone bills but they can scrape together 6 or 7 billion dollars for a bid to buy out CTV. Go figure. Or is that just incessant whining again?

There's actually a study going on that thinks that oil is actually renewable. It's still in the early stages but they think it's a natural byproduct of the earth's metabolism. Interesting if they can prove it.

Re: Feb. Goose Hunt

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Posted by Nick on March 01, 2000 at 15:59:02:

In Reply to: Feb. Goose Hunt posted by Kern on February 28, 2000 at 22:14:43:

Hey there Kern ! Yes I got out as well LOL Had a great time as well ! Just think the regular season is only 6 months away !

Nick

Re: Ottawa waterfowler new to forum

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Posted by Nick on March 01, 2000 at 15:57:49:

In Reply to: Ottawa waterfowler new to forum posted by Matt Ward on March 01, 2000 at 10:42:24:

Hey there Matt !

Just a warm welcome to the board ! We try and help each other out here so if your in need just post !!

Happy hunting !!

Nick

Re: Ottawa waterfowler new to forum

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Posted by Dave on March 01, 2000 at 13:43:19:

In Reply to: Ottawa waterfowler new to forum posted by Matt Ward on March 01, 2000 at 10:42:24:

I don't know much about the ottawa river, but I am from the pembroke area. What do you hunt near lake dore? Where do you live?

Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS

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Posted by Fischer on March 01, 2000 at 13:24:37:

In Reply to: Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS posted by Smarter than Some on March 01, 2000 at 07:39:19:

Uh, we already do sell our oil and gas off cheaply, to the US.

It also doesn't help that our very own, made in Canada, oil company is right in there screwing us, with the rest of them. Petro Canada should be lowering prices, to force true competition among the oil companies.

Ottawa waterfowler new to forum

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Posted by Matt Ward on March 01, 2000 at 10:42:24:

My name is Matthew Ward and I just found this site a few days ago. I am a 20 year old Architecture student who still lives at home with Keeghan, my two year old lab. Last summer I hunt the built a 14ft fibreglass boat/blind with a 50 Yamaha St. Laurence and Rideau River for geese over water and Mississippi Lake for ducks. We also hunt on Lake Dore near Pembroke. I want to start hunting the Ottawa River for mostly geese; but ducks too and was just wondering if anyone else did the same. One of my buddies has about 10 feilds 10 minutes from my house that we hunt geese in. I was just wondering if anyone else hunts around here and if anyone has experience on the Ottawa River.

Matt

Re: Hunting Moose in Quebec

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Posted by Dave on March 01, 2000 at 07:46:19:

In Reply to: Hunting Moose in Quebec posted by George on February 21, 2000 at 08:41:24:

If you wanted to go on your own in the ZEC's it is quite costly. At least a few hundred for the license. You can't used 4-wheelers except to extract a shot moose. The populations are good, and you only need 2 people to get a bull or cow tag, so if you are in a small group it's a good opportunity.

Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS

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Posted by Smarter than Some on March 01, 2000 at 07:39:19:

In Reply to: Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS posted by Bob on February 29, 2000 at 16:40:48:

Listen, I didn't say I don't use oil and gas. I do use it for alot of things, but I am willing pay for it too. It bothers me off seeing people driving around in full size 4X4 trucks and SUV's complaining that the gas costs too much. You don't need those damn things 95% of the time and if you think you do then grin and bear it. If you had a commodity that everyone wanted, I doubt you would want to use it up as quickly as possible and sell it to other people for a cheaply as they want to buy it -- would you? I'm willing to bet that when these countries run out of oil and Canada's tar sands is the only major source left, people like you will be singing a different tune, especially if Canada decided to sell the oil off cheap to other countries that need it. Then we'll hear complaining that we aren't looking out for ourselves.

And when you say Canada is powerless with the decimation of our military it sure implies military force is needed. And yes, oil and gas is related to the north american way of life. But who are you going to complain to when the OPEC countries have no crude left under their sands? All the complaining in the world won't make it come back.

10gauge

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Posted by Matt Ward on March 01, 2000 at 00:01:48:

In Reply to: what ammo for geese???? posted by Bent Arrow on February 27, 2000 at 17:39:14:

For geese the this last season I've been shooting a 10 gauge in Remington Nitro Steel TT, T and Winchester Supreme BB's. Last year I shot 12 gauge 3" T's and killed just as many as I did this year. One of my buddy's shoot 12 gauge 2-3/4 #2 steel at them and he does fine as long as they are within 30 yards wings open and feet down (head shot).

Hunt camp for sale

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Posted by Kevin on February 29, 2000 at 20:20:42:

Bob`s Camp

Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS

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Posted by Jim-Bob on February 29, 2000 at 18:12:19:

In Reply to: Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS posted by smarter than some on February 29, 2000 at 12:23:30:

Smarter than some? I'd hate to see the "some" that you claim to be smarter than. Sheesh. Here's 25 cents - buy yourself a clue.

Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS

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Posted by Bob on February 29, 2000 at 16:40:48:

In Reply to: Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS posted by smarter than some on February 29, 2000 at 12:23:30:

Retarded? Idiot? You should really take your time and learn to read before you shoot off your mouth. Where does it say in my post that the US should go in with military force? I think it IS our business when everything related to the North American way of life is connected with oil and gas. As for using it like water - do you walk to work? Does your food arrive at the supermaket by bicycle? If you go hunting or fishing - can you walk to where you hunt or fish? Do you have a pedal powered boat? You obviously don't understand anything or you work for an oil company - or maybe the Schad Foundation?

Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS

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Posted by smarter than some on February 29, 2000 at 12:23:30:

In Reply to: Re: NO GOOD DIRTY TRUCKERS posted by Bob on February 25, 2000 at 08:05:29:

Obviously you don't know much about oil. With the prices the way they had been for the last couple years, consumption goes way up. There isn't a neverending supply of the stuff. People who use it like water should be charged for all of the costs, including environmental and research into future energy sources. The end of gasoline is nearer than most think -- inside a hundred years.

And another thing, it isn't up to the US to go in with military power to force countries to reduce prices. That has to be the most retarded thing I've ever heard. For one that would make prices skyrocket as the OPEC countries would surely protest. Secondly, it isn't our business what they want to do with their oil. If you don't like the prices then walk. Nobody is forcing you use oil for anything. I'm sick of hearing all you idiots complain about something that isn't your business.

St Clair river

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Posted by Shooter on February 29, 2000 at 01:55:13:

In Reply to: Feb. Goose Hunt posted by Kern on February 28, 2000 at 22:14:43:

shot them up good on the St Clair River. Lots of birds. Location is key, a good set and a decent caller. minimal competition

Shooter

Re: what ammo for geese????

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Posted by Shooter on February 29, 2000 at 01:53:12:

In Reply to: what ammo for geese???? posted by Bent Arrow on February 27, 2000 at 17:39:14:

3 inch Challenger #2 has been my mainstay for 5 years now. Doesnt matter what your barrel length so long as you are shooting a mod or IC choke. Tried many others. Stayed with Challenger for all waterfowling.

PS: Be sure to pattern test your gun with the shell you select.... very suprising results!!!!! Same model of 1 gun will pattern different than its sistergun

Shooter

Feb. Goose Hunt

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Posted by Kern on February 28, 2000 at 22:14:43:

Has anyone else been out this month for Geese?? This warm spell has been great for hunting. Went out today got 1 this morning and 5 in the afternoon. Saw alot of birds in the morning but for some reason they decoyed alot better in the afternoon.

Re: what ammo for geese????

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Posted by Kern on February 28, 2000 at 22:06:47:

In Reply to: what ammo for geese???? posted by Bent Arrow on February 27, 2000 at 17:39:14:

I like Bismuth in BB esp when they are out @ 40-45 yrds...in close over decoys 25 yrds or less almost anything will bring them dowm. I like BBB, T and even TT. Winchester has a round called HV Steel ( 1450 fps ) Its a nice round. With these size shots you really want a 3 1/2 12 ga or a 10 ga. to keep your shot pattern full.

Re: what ammo for geese????

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Posted by Braden on February 28, 2000 at 16:38:49:

In Reply to: Re: what ammo for geese???? posted by Nick on February 27, 2000 at 22:21:04:

Challlenger 3 inch BBB, or BB. 1400fps+ equals better knockdown. Ideally bismuth BB with a full choke, but this is pricey!!

Re: Guns And Ammo .US Suspends

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Posted by bowhunter on February 28, 2000 at 11:21:59:

In Reply to: Guns And Ammo .US Suspends posted by mike on February 26, 2000 at 02:58:23:

this should make things frustrating trying to buy ammunition for the spring turkey hunt or the fall big/small game and waterfowl seasons. I suppose a person should consider buying ammunition now for the fall, if you can find any. it seems we hunters are getting it from all angles these days. if our government doesn't screw us they'll get the americans to do it for them.

Re: what ammo for geese????

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Posted by Nick on February 27, 2000 at 22:21:04:

In Reply to: what ammo for geese???? posted by Bent Arrow on February 27, 2000 at 17:39:14:

All depends on what type of gun you use. I use the Remington super mag. I like the Remington 3 1/2 in T shot of BBB in 3" I also like the T shot or if they are really close in BB I hope this has helped you out ? Where are you hunting ??

Sparky

what ammo for geese????

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Posted by Bent Arrow on February 27, 2000 at 17:39:14:

just wandering what ammo you prefer to use for geese.

Guns And Ammo .US Suspends

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Posted by mike on February 26, 2000 at 02:58:23:

Here is the another web site. http://www.apbnews.com:80/newscenter/breakingnews/2000/02/25/guns0225_01.html Read This.....

Re: U.S. stops gun & ammo exports to Canada

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Posted by mike on February 26, 2000 at 00:22:22:

In Reply to: U.S. stops gun & ammo exports to Canada posted by B.McCann on February 25, 2000 at 22:55:16:

Have posted it on other sites the same info....

U.S. stops gun & ammo exports to Canada

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Posted by B.McCann on February 25, 2000 at 22:55:16:

I guess fearing that the liberals may face defeat in the Supreme Court challenge they have conspired with the U.S. government to stop ALL exports of firearms and ammunition to Canada. Go to www.cila.org for the news release.

I love Canada and it's sad to think I will have to move to continue to hunt but I will.