March 14 to November 30 - 1998

FIREARMS 4 SALE

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Posted by MIKE on November 30, 1998 at 06:08:04:

S&W .44 MAG MODEL 29-3...2 1/2" BARREL-BLUED S&W .44 MAG MODEL 29-3...6" BARREL-NICKEL S&W .357 MAG MODEL 586...6"BARREL-NICKEL BROWNING CHALLENGER III .22 CALIBRE STERLING ARMS MARK III 4OO .380 CALIBRE COLT GOVERNMENT SERIES 80 .45ACP

F.A.C. REQUIRED......THESE ARE LEGALLY REGISTERED FIREARMS....I RESIDE IN BRAMPTON, ONTARIO AND THESE FIREARMS CAN BE VIEWED IN OSHAWA WITH AN APPOINTMENT....EMAIL ME FOR COMPLETE DETAILS AND PRICES

SNOWMOBILE TRAILER 4 SALE

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Posted by MIKE on November 30, 1998 at 05:58:08:

4x8 tiltable/flatbed snowmobile trailer, removable sides (utility trailer), new rims, tires, wiring & lights, c/w spare tire, in good condition...can be seen in Brampton......MUST SELL......$500...OBO...email me if interested

"Animal Rights" people to ban most pets in Toronto

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Posted by Jonathan Higbee on November 29, 1998 at 21:41:23:

Greetings.

As so-called "animal rights" activists would just assume do away with hunting, as well as any keeping of any animal as a pet, I thought that perhaps some here might enjoy expressing some solidarity with the following cause:

The City of Toronto is about to pass a law that will ban all pets other than common dogs & cats. All animals not native to Canada will be banned, as well as birds, reptiles, fish, and non-dog-non-cat small mammals.

It is expected that if this law goes into effect, that surrounding cities will follow suit. As such, those people who have pets other than dogs & cats will look elsewhere for work & to live.

The final hearing to stop this from happening is December 1.

To learn how you can help to stop the ban, please contact the following persons:

CHRISTOPHER HOLOBOFF Suite 500, 27 Queen Street East Toronto, Ontario M5C 2M6 M9R 2N8 (416) 868-0878 (416) 362-5013 (fax) choloboff@aol.com

BRIAN EDDY 91 Waterford Drive Etobicoke, Ontario (416) 244-6976 (416) 244-2154 briane@pathcom.com

Complete information is available at the following web site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5470/

Sincerely,

Jonathan Higbee jhigbee@ieighty.net

Dealer/Buyer Info on Verifiers (What happens Dec 1st?)

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on November 29, 1998 at 03:15:01:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters

Click on one of the pictures at the bottom of the page for:

CPFO phone numbers by province. Ontario Gun Shop Listings Information on the Verifier's process The buyer's/dealers procedure for purchasing/selling a firearm after Dec 1st. Other Info

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell

Buying a Firearm On or After Dec 1st (Procedure)

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on November 29, 1998 at 02:59:25:

Here is the response I received from Ellwood Epps about how the dealers will "verify" firearms purchased on and after Dec 1st.

-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Redgwell To: Ellwood Epps Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 2:36 PM If I come in Tuesday to purchase a firearm, what's the procedure? Are you going to sell me one using the same procedure as last week, refuse, put it on hold or what?

Stephen: Here is the process that I recieved.. (I had to phone the chief provincial firearms officer in BC to get it..) The dealer phones the 1-800 transfer # and gives the following info: 1. buyers name.. 2. buyers fac number.. 3. dealer s business number.. 4. either custumers or my visa # to pay transfer fee of $25.00

After I give them this info they willl give me a transfer number which I must record in my books...

This is what I understand the process to be but I a very suspicious that when I phone the number on Tuesday that they will start asking questions about the firearm.. For the handguns the process is the same exept that all of the info about the handgun is required, and they also authorize a transport number on top of the transfer number and the customer can take the gun immediately.. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?? I can't, but that is what they tell us..

I hpoe this info helps you...

wes sorry about spelling too i typed in a rush

Re: ...from your deer stand! Better late than never

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Posted by Pete on November 27, 1998 at 16:43:57:

In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:

In October 1997 my brother was out. It was about 20 celcius and calm. Where he hunts there is a very picturesque ruined foundation and the weather was mild and there was a nice sunset. You could imagine. He's approaching the old orchard that was near the homestead in full gear when he hears voices.

Quietly he walks up to see two soulmates (man and woman) photographing each other in the nude. Needless to say, he saw all of them and they saw none of him.

Re: Goose Hunting

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Posted by Nick on November 24, 1998 at 16:44:00:

In Reply to: Re: Goose Hunting posted by Hoyt on November 24, 1998 at 15:28:30:

Bowmanville...... Seen a lot of geese flying in the area to and from work ! I'm sure that they will come bac after the pressure is down for awhile ! Good luck !

Re: Goose Hunting

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Posted by Hoyt on November 24, 1998 at 15:28:30:

In Reply to: Re: Goose Hunting posted by Nick on November 24, 1998 at 12:13:20:

Nick, Were hunting in Bowmanville,It was an interesting nite, the one I thought that would be real good, Well we hid in the fence row this time to try and catch them on there way back in to their roosting pond, Well needless to say It was'nt as good as I thought it would be, the birds were real high untill they were directly over the pond and then they would cup and set down on the pond, But I don't have permisson to that pond only the property beside it, It seems though that when the different groups of birds come in (say a doz.or so) that they could'nt take the pressure of the other birds not being there so up they went that was Sat. eve. and I have'nt been back since, Guess we were over hunting it maybe? SOOoooo I'm now back on the deer party hunting.

Re: Goose Hunting

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Posted by Nick on November 24, 1998 at 12:13:20:

In Reply to: Re: Goose Hunting posted by Hoyt on November 21, 1998 at 11:48:13:

Hoyt, So where are you hunting ? The geese have done the same in my area around Peterborough as we went back the other day at the same time to see about 45 birds coming in while we were still setting out our decoys! We only saw 4 flocks for the morning and they stopped around 9am. We are basicly new to this corn field thing so any help would be great !! Plan on going out this weekend and we'll be there early this time !

Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail

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Posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:

In Reply to: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:

Hoyt, thanks for the post. WOW is all I can say. What a deer, and I see a lot of big ones doing articles for Big Buck magazine. It remains to be seen if it really does beat the Hanson buck, but it sure is impressive. The article says the rack has a 38 inch spread. They must be referring to outside spread, because if you look at where the ears would go, and a mature whitetails ears are about 17-19 inches across, the rack would appear to have an inside spread of around 27-30 inches. Still world class, by any means. They also say the Hanson buck's spread is over 34 inches, but in reality, its 25 or 26. Don't know where they're getting their figures.

I've heard Rompola's name before but can't quite place where.

It will certainly be interesting to see how this shakes down. Thanks again.

Possable New World Record Whitetail

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Posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:

Hey Guys, You wanna see a Buck! Check this out! Man I would be proud if I was this guy,It beats the Hanson Buck! WHOW! http://www.freep.com/sports/outdoors/qdeer201.htm

Luther Marsh

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Posted by Big Bird on November 22, 1998 at 12:08:37:

Spent a day at Luther. Got a pheasant and saw one other. Lots of hunters as it seems the NAVHDA boys had a club hunt. They appeared to be doing well with their dogs.

Re: Goose Hunting

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Posted by Hoyt on November 21, 1998 at 11:48:13:

In Reply to: Goose Hunting posted by Nick on November 18, 1998 at 23:42:05:

Hello Nick, Now that I have no deer tag for bowhunting, I to am on to the geese, Ive been out the last couple of weeks with a few friends and my trusty retriever, We have been hunting in a cornfeild with several rows of corn still standing so we've been hideing in that, Now the geese have changed there ways and only a few have been landing in that feild, the rest are flying to other feilds, So this morning we decided to pass shoot them leaveing there roosting area, Were going back this evening they will want in there real bad, Should be good! P.S Never under estimate the eyesite of a goose!

Re: Looking for a good taxidermist

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Posted by Dave on November 20, 1998 at 11:48:16:

In Reply to: Looking for a good taxidermist posted by Pete on November 20, 1998 at 08:50:08:

Give Carmen a call at Green Forest Taxidermy 705 436 6006, he is in the Barrie area, he does excellent work !!!!!

Looking for a good taxidermist

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Posted by Pete on November 20, 1998 at 08:50:08:

This should be a good time for some feedback on good taxidermists. I had some good fortune on Saturday and harvested a nice 12 point buck with the bow. My dilema is where to find a reputable taxidermist.

Does anybody have some advice to give? I live in the Kitchener/Guelph area

Thanks in advance

Re: Goose Hunting

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Posted by Nick on November 19, 1998 at 19:23:47:

In Reply to: Re: Goose Hunting posted by Kern on November 19, 1998 at 08:31:36:

Kern, Well you are still out there ! Please let me know how you did. I'll be going out again this Saturday if all goes well

Nick

Re: Goose Hunting

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Posted by Kern on November 19, 1998 at 08:31:36:

In Reply to: Goose Hunting posted by Nick on November 18, 1998 at 23:42:05:

Smart move Nick!! At 15 yards you should have a bag full of geese!! Im going out this weekend to try my luck at some late season honkers. The feilds ill be in are bordered by heavy bush so i I will use that as cover, besides all the snow is melted down here.

Goose Hunting

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Posted by Nick on November 18, 1998 at 23:42:05:

Well I finally managed to secure a nice size corn field for hunting geese. We tried it today with the snow on the field and had great results! We hid under white sheets among the decoys and when we saw the geese coming mad a few calls and the gesse came right in, within about 15 yards and landed !! Had a great time having seven flocks come in ranging from 4 to about 30 birds.

Has anyone else tried this technique and how did it work ??

Nick

TRAILER FOR SALE

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Posted by Mike on November 16, 1998 at 06:02:02:

I have a 4x8 flatbed snowmobile trailer for sale. It has a tiltable bed, removeable sides, new lights/wiring, new rims & tires. Can be seen in Brampton...if interested email me......asking $500 OBO.....thanks...Mike

Verifiers -Dealers & Gun Owners

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on November 15, 1998 at 22:19:55:

Information on this can be obtained at http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters. Go to the bottom of the page and click on the picture. Check back regularly, as this page will be updated as needed. You can also go to the NFA website at www.nfa.ca

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell

Re: Ontario Gun Shops & Verifiers

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on November 13, 1998 at 16:08:38:

In Reply to: Re: Ontario Gun Shops & Verifiers posted by Fischer on November 13, 1998 at 15:16:51:

In a nutshell, a verifier is an individual that will take information about you and your firearm, check it against a government generated database (CD) and obtain approval for the sale. This would be done through the use of a computer. Presently, the RCMP is contacting gunshops/organisations/individuals to act on the government's behalf. The problems with this system are too numerous to go into at length here. I suggest that you go to this website for a more detailed explanation. www.nfa.ca As a gun owner, you should aquaint yourself with this program, as it will affect you regardless of whether or not you purchase another firearm. You will have to register the firearms that you presently own. I urge everyone to check out the NFA website for all the C-68 and related legislation and how it will impact on you. Safe Shooting! Steve

Re: Ontario Gun Shops & Verifiers

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Posted by Fischer on November 13, 1998 at 15:16:51:

In Reply to: Ontario Gun Shops & Verifiers posted by Steve Redgwell on November 12, 1998 at 02:28:25:

Please explain what verifiers are? I'm not totally up on the legislation and need to know what this involves.

Thanks

Re: Ontario Gun Shops & Verifiers

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Posted by Bob McNally on November 13, 1998 at 03:26:08:

In Reply to: Ontario Gun Shops & Verifiers posted by Steve Redgwell on November 12, 1998 at 02:28:25:

Its too bad that when they "ask" you to be a verifier and that you say "no" that at that time they point out to you the date when your licence is expiring. I know of several instances where this is the case. Some have said they will think about it till they can figure out how to get off the hook and one that has contacted his lawyer regarding how he was being threatened.

These instances were from shooting clubs if my source or my memory serves me.

What a bunch of A*******!!

Bob

Ontario Gun Shops & Verifiers

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Posted by Steve Redgwell on November 12, 1998 at 02:28:25:

Here is a link to a partial list of Ontario Gunshops. Please let them know you will not support them if they choose to become verifiers. If they already are, ask them to reconsider and tell them you're letting others know. Send emails, FAXes, letters to them and tell them you're not pleased.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters/OntarioGunShops.htm

It can also be accessed thru the Shooter's Companion Website at http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters

Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell shooters@sympatico.ca

During the day?

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Posted by Andy on November 09, 1998 at 16:32:07:

In Reply to: Re: Game Spot Check posted by Frank on November 09, 1998 at 12:15:34:

My guess is there was lots of nightime activity given the clear skies and full moon. I know I've spent many hours at dawn waiting on stand and not seeing a thing, yet checking the run at mid-morning, I'd find tons of fresh sign that wasn't there the previous evening. Clever buggers....

Re: Deer in 60A

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Posted by Andy on November 09, 1998 at 16:27:31:

In Reply to: Re: Deer in 60A posted by MIKE on November 09, 1998 at 14:15:14:

We're down just south of Nephton; quite a ways from where you were. Perhaps proximity to the game preserve helped, although it didn't in previous years. I think the lack of water resulting in dried-out bogs and cedar swamps resulted in a major loss of hiding cover this fall.

Re: Deer in 60A

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Posted by MIKE on November 09, 1998 at 14:15:14:

In Reply to: Deer in 60A posted by Andy on November 09, 1998 at 10:11:00:

Hey Andy.....where abouts in 60A were you hunting? I was hunting on each side of Hwy. 503 between Gooderham and Tory Hill. Sounds like you did okay!

FIREARMS FOR SALE

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Posted by Mike on November 09, 1998 at 14:06:59:

FOR SALE 1) S&W .44 MAG 2.5" BLUED & 6" NICKEL

2) S&W .357 mAG 6" NICKEL

3) BROWNING CAHLLENGER III .22 CALIBER

4) STERLING ARMS MARK III 400 .380 CALIBER

5) COLT GOVERNMENT SERIES 80 .45ACP

FAC REQUIRED...THESE ARE LEGALLY REGISTERED FIREARMS I RESIDE IN BRAMPTON & THE FIREARMS CAN BE VIEWED IN OSHAWA WITH AN APPOINTMENT EMAIL ME FOR COMPLETE LIST INCLUDING PRICES

Re: Game Spot Check

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Posted by Frank on November 09, 1998 at 12:15:34:

In Reply to: Re: Game Spot Check posted by MIKE on November 09, 1998 at 06:06:13:

Hey Mike, Saw some deer in the evening while going back to the hunt camp. Saw lots of deer signs during the day while pushing, but no deer at all! Where do they go during the day? You did not do so badly! Way to go!

Deer in 60A

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Posted by Andy on November 09, 1998 at 10:11:00:

In Reply to: Re: Game Spot Check posted by MIKE on November 09, 1998 at 06:06:13:

Got a 8 point buck on opening day: at 2 in the afternoon within 5 minutes of arranging myself on a rock seat. Didn't wander around too much on Tuesday, but saw a nice doe and a 12 (at least) pointer on Wednesday. Lots of sign. There was little to be seen during the summer and early fall, so I expected a slow season. But there seems to be many deer out there right now.

Re: Game Spot Check

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Posted by MIKE on November 09, 1998 at 06:06:13:

In Reply to: Game Spot Check posted by Frank on November 08, 1998 at 11:14:55:

Hey there......we hunted 56 & 60A...one buck & one doe....not a lot of deer moving around this year....did you see many in your area???? Mike

Game Spot Check

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Posted by Frank on November 08, 1998 at 11:14:55:

My hunting buddies and I were returning from our week's deer hunt up in area 57 on Saturday. As we approached Burleigh Falls (Hwy 28), OPP and the Ministry of Resources had set up a road block on both sides of Highway 28. There must have been at least 20 officers. It looked like they were looking for a fugitive. They stopped every vehicle. Those that were hunting were pulled over and seals and game checked. I am glad they were checking seals and game. It seems to me that we still have a lot of illegally shot game. The Conservation Officer who checked us out was a really polite and good guy. If you hunted legally there definitely was no problem. We do have to stop illegal poaching somehow. As for our hunt, we did manage to bag a young buck.

Re: A hunting fatality up near Peterboro

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Posted by Fischer on November 06, 1998 at 08:55:11:

In Reply to: A hunting fatality up near Peterboro posted by Steve on November 05, 1998 at 22:33:47:

If it was the one near Tara, a 41 year old guy was accidently shot by a relative while hunting.

OPP are still investigating.

There was an incident near Kitchener, too. Guy got hit by a buckshot pellet that ricocheted off a tree branch. Pellet hit him in the rib cage but just penetrated the skin, travelled sideways around his body and ended up lodged under the skin on his back. Lucky it wasn't worse. He was out with a bunch of buddies in the first shotgun hunt in that area in over 20 years.

LETS BE CAREFUL OUT THERE, GUYS! DON'T GIVE THE ANTI'S AMMUNITION!!

A hunting fatality up near Peterboro

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Posted by Steve on November 05, 1998 at 22:33:47:

Does anyone know any details about this incident?

Re: Fox Urine....

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Posted by Steve on November 05, 1998 at 19:12:29:

In Reply to: Fox Urine.... posted by rc on November 05, 1998 at 00:17:48:

Fox cover scent is about the only scent I will use when bowhunting and yes, I've had coyotes follow right in my footsteps after dragging a scent cloth. With any scent, just be careful to not overdo it. A little goes a long way.

As for buck lure, I knew a guy who once drank a whole bottle of the stuff and he said he still didn't see any deer.

I heard on the radio that there was a hunting fatality up near Peterboro. Does anyone have any details about what happened?

Fox Urine....

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Posted by rc on November 05, 1998 at 00:17:48:

Out hunting last week and was trying out some fox urine cover scent. Too my suprise I had unintentionally attracted a coyote. Startled the heck out of us and the yote too. Has this ever happen to anyone else before. Thanks for all inputs and/or brief story. RC..

Re: Opening Day

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Posted by Tom M on November 04, 1998 at 20:22:35:

In Reply to: Re: Opening Day posted by Big Bird on November 03, 1998 at 21:13:59:

I got a doe yesterday and one of our party got a nice buck today. Sighted 8 today, spooked ? how many others.

Re: Opening Day

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Posted by Big Bird on November 03, 1998 at 21:13:59:

In Reply to: Opening Day posted by Tom M. on November 02, 1998 at 19:05:21:

Close enough to count the points, but not close enough to shoot. Sounds like another buck fever story to me. Leave a few as I will try my hand at it next week.

Re: 14" barreled 12g Ithica for sale

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Posted by Jonathan Tilley on November 03, 1998 at 13:50:53:

In Reply to: 14" barreled 12g Ithica for sale posted by Brett Davenport on March 21, 1998 at 13:51:48:

Mr. Davenport Im sorry im not interested in your gun. Iwas curious if you could answer me a question. A friend of mine as an old ithica without a stock. i am trying to find the company's address or phone no. Iwould appreiciate any information you could give me.

Thank you

Re: Turkey Calls

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Posted by J.Saylor on November 03, 1998 at 05:07:08:

In Reply to: Re: Turkey Calls posted by Hoyt on March 18, 1998 at 07:47:09:

Do you know how to make bird calls? I need a pattern for my cub scouts to make. Doesn't matter what kind of bird. The easiest the better! The little guys are in 3rd grade and most of the time are all thumbs! Thanks for any help you can email me!

Opening Day

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Posted by Tom M. on November 02, 1998 at 19:05:21:

In area 75 our party of 6 rousted 6 deer, sighted 2does and a nice 12 point buck. Only shot at the doe, but no hits. The buck was 150 yds away...too far for a shotgun. Lots of signs...droppings, rubs, beds etc:

Deer Hunting

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Posted by Nick on November 01, 1998 at 08:48:02:

Well tomorrow is the day !! I will be hunting in area 75 at the in-laws farm All kinds of deer around ! Good luck to all.
Nick

Luther Marsh

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Posted by Big Bird on October 29, 1998 at 20:30:58:

Whats the scoop on Luther marsh or Hullet marsh? Have they released any birds, and is there any water foul as the water was gone in late August.

Re: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands

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Posted by Bob McNally on October 29, 1998 at 03:49:14:

In Reply to: Re: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands posted by Frank on October 27, 1998 at 19:50:56:

Hi Frank

Good luck with it and hope you have a good season! Ours starts next week (gun season that is)

Bob

Re: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands

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Posted by Frank on October 27, 1998 at 19:50:56:

In Reply to: Re: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands posted by Bob McNally on October 21, 1998 at 01:54:00:

Thanks for your comment. I just bought the River's Edge climbing tree stand. I am going to practice with it over the weekend. This particular stand has enough room on the lower unit to allow me to cock my crossbow. All other climbing tree stands did not have this space I needed.

Ducks W. Bay of Lk Nippising

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Posted by Brian on October 24, 1998 at 22:36:42:

Does anyone have info on how the birds are flying in the west bay area of Lake Nippising. Since it is not that cold I expect Mallards like last year this time.

Re: Do Bear Chase Away Deer?

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Posted by Hoyt on October 22, 1998 at 18:51:55:

In Reply to: Do Bear Chase Away Deer? posted by Tom on October 20, 1998 at 21:43:47:

Hello Tom, I gun hunt with a gang in WMU 63 for the last 10 years and some of the guys have shot bear while sitting on there watch, And we have always taken a few deer during that week also, maybe it depends on the WMU? I see you like to bowhunt to, Well Good Luck! Ive seen 3 but they beat me to the feild, also a pile of turkeys and my Dad well lets say he had his chance at a doe pretty lucky Id say 3 time out bowhuntin and he fired an arrow.

Re: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands

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Posted by Bob McNally on October 21, 1998 at 01:54:00:

In Reply to: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands posted by Frank on October 12, 1998 at 17:40:55:

I bought one stand made by API that I really like. Ordered it from Bowhunter Discount Warehouse in Pennslyvania. I then made 3 others using plywood bases but similar in style to the API. It was a climbing model but can be used fine with out the climbing part. Like mentioned here its hard to find trees without a few branches to go around. The API had a seatbelt material strap to secure the stand near the seat area & just above the platform is a steel plate with a hole in it that you screw in a bolt with a "T" handle on it that helps keep the 'feet' from kicking out from the tree (and throwing you out!) when you lean out from it. This 2 point securing setup I used for the others I built cause it really makes them more secure & even feel safer. The home built have chain I coated in liquid plastic (to make it quiet) instead of the seatbelt material.

The seatbelt material works good but what happens if you climb into your stand in the dark (thats been hung in the tree for a few weeks) and you find out "later" that a porcupine likes the seatbelt material too! I like to have them pre-hung so I can sneak into them. The chain is also great for padlocking the stand to the tree.

Bob

Re: Things you see from your deer stand!

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Posted by Bob McNally on October 21, 1998 at 01:40:59:

In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:

Every year when the songbirds are flocking up for the trip south I seem to run into Robins that will fly branch to branch trying to figure out what I was sitting there in full camo with the headnet on. The chickadees always like to perch on my head or shoulder and can startle you at times when you least expect it. While rifle hunting and walking along a trail I had a small bird, not sure the type, land on my gun barrel! Where I bow hunt is close to ponds where I start the season duck hunting and often ducks & geese will fly by within easy range. Always thought that would put a new twist on duck hunting...using a tree stand!

Once in awhile I even see deer!! ;-)

Bob

Do Bear Chase Away Deer?

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Posted by Tom on October 20, 1998 at 21:43:47:

I've been using 2 tree stands for bowhunting deer for the past 2 weeks in an area formerly with lots of deer. I havn't seen even a white tail flag yet. A local farmer told me today that there is a bear in the area that has taken some of his sheep. He told me that deer will move away from an area where there is a bear! Is this true? Has anyone else ever heard of this?

grouse area

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Posted by Stephen on October 20, 1998 at 15:04:04:

Hi Folks,

Thinking of trying new areas for grouse, can anyone offer any spots they are aware of in the Norland area? It is about an hour away from home and looks to be decent, just hoping to hear from others familliar with the area. I'd also be interested in any place else within a 40 mile radius of the area.

Enjoy!

Re: Lead shoot for geese

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Posted by Frank on October 18, 1998 at 23:08:33:

In Reply to: Re: Lead shoot for geese posted by Nick on October 18, 1998 at 02:16:09:

Real sorry Nick, but I already hunt with 5 others. The farm we hunt on belongs to someone else and he will only permit my buddy to bring us along. SORRY!

Re: Small Game

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Posted by Hoyt on October 18, 1998 at 10:46:47:

In Reply to: Small Game posted by Kern on October 17, 1998 at 15:15:47:

Hello Kern, I seen 3 grouse yesterday, 2 in the morning when I was walking from one of my stands to the truck and 1 last nite where 1 of my stands is next to a Hawthorn tree, as for rabbits Ive seen more cottontails this year then the last couple of years But I'm only talkin a handful like maybe 5 But I to have'nt been looking for these I just happened to stumble over them.

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I have the following firearms for sale:

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FAC REQUIRED.......FOR COMPLETE DETAILS....EMAIL ME.......THANKS.......MIKE

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I have the following firearms for sale...email me for details

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Re: Lead shoot for geese

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Posted by Nick on October 18, 1998 at 02:16:09:

In Reply to: Lead shoot for geese posted by Nick on October 10, 1998 at 19:17:39:

So Frank ......... You going to let me know where you are hunting those geese? And when are you taking Kern and I for a day trip :) :)

Re: Small Game

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Posted by Nick on October 18, 1998 at 02:14:26:

In Reply to: Small Game posted by Kern on October 17, 1998 at 15:15:47:

I have only seen one bird and that was when we were leaving a duck hunting area. We have not seen any rabbits in our area for some time Kern. I think they must be in the lowes peek of their cycle!!?

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Posted by jonny on October 17, 1998 at 19:18:25:

In Reply to: Small Game posted by Kern on October 17, 1998 at 15:15:47:

I've seen afew rabbits in my area but I've been told that the 'yote population is high this year.

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Posted by Kern on October 17, 1998 at 15:15:47:

Has anyone been getting any rabbits or grouse?? I heard a few grouse while duck hunting but didnt bother with them cause I was more interested in the ducks. As for rabbits, I havent seen one since last year....havent really looked for them yet either.

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Posted by Eric on October 15, 1998 at 09:55:50:

In Reply to: Turkey Calls posted by Kern on March 17, 1998 at 20:31:38:

I like the mouth call and also the slate call is great because you can purr, cluck, etc..

PS.Always carry sandpaper so when your box calls get damp, just rub them down with the sandpaper and your set to go.

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Posted by Steve on October 14, 1998 at 22:29:10:

In Reply to: Re: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands posted by Hoyt on October 14, 1998 at 15:20:57:

Hoyt, you are correct. I have a Loc-ON portable that I really like. It's got nylon ropes rather than chains, is really quiet to carry and put up and weighs less than six pounds. I can put it up quickly and quietly even in the dark and if I find a hot area, I can put it up and sit for several hours and not screw up the area. I don't normally sit in the same exact place more than once. I believe that if you over-use a stand site, the deer soon start to pattern you. Have you noticed that you normally see more deer the first time you use one particular stand?

Re: Things you see from your deer stand!

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Posted by Ron G on October 14, 1998 at 18:20:56:

In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:

Wasn't from a tree stand, but: while deer hunting last year from a ground stand under a dead fall I had an interesting encounter with a couple of spruce grouse. Each evening, these two grouse would make their way through the woods and pass within several feet of my stand. Well, on the third day out, I heard them coming and this time, straight for my position. I held as still as possible until one of them was inches away from my feet. The second had hopped up onto the dead fall above me and proceeded up the log until he was directly overhead. Next thing I know, this guy decides to jump down off the log...right onto my head! Actually stood there for a little while surveying things while his mate rummaged around by my feet. Far be it from me to eat anything so goofy. I sat and watched until the two of them slowly proceeded on their way.

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Posted by Hoyt on October 14, 1998 at 15:20:57:

In Reply to: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands posted by Frank on October 12, 1998 at 17:40:55:

Ive never had the use for a climber or a store bought stand. I have a great homemade pattern for stands, but I honestly prefer no stand or tree pegs at all, that way you can keep the deer guessing at all times,I would rather just use branch's to climb up and a big branch to sit on or stand on for that few hours Im in my stands, Why spend the money when you don't have to!

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Posted by Steve Bond on October 13, 1998 at 20:36:18:

In Reply to: Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands posted by Frank on October 12, 1998 at 17:40:55:

Had one to try for a while a couple of years ago. It worked okay, but my main complaint was that the tree had to be pretty straight without branches for as high as you wanted to go. There's not many trees like that where I want to hunt. It would work for gun hunters where you could cover a lot of area, but for bowhunters, the type of trees I like to get into are to brushy for climbing stands. Plus, with a naked tree, you look like a big pimple sticking out from the trunk.

Need Help With Climbing Tree Stands

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Posted by Frank on October 12, 1998 at 17:40:55:

I am planning to purchase a climbing tree stand. I have never hunted from a tree stand before. How safe are they? Are they really easy to set up and climb in? Any info given would be highly appreciated.

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Posted by Frank on October 12, 1998 at 17:37:13:

In Reply to: Lead shoot for geese posted by Nick on October 10, 1998 at 19:17:39:

The largest lead shot we use in fields is BB. The smallest we use is #2. I have heard that some people do use #1, #4, or 0 buck shot. I have never tried them because BB has always worked well for us.

Re: Things you see from your deer stand!

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Posted by Tom on October 12, 1998 at 15:12:05:

In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:

I was bowhunting for moose in Quebec last week. A Cooper's hawk grabbed a red squirrel 10 feet from me on an old dead tree. The squirrel turned and fought back with the hawk causing the hawk to drop him back on to the old tree. The squirrel dove into a hole in the tree with the hawk circling above us. After an hour the squirrel stuck his head out, looked about and took off. PS An hour later a S hook straightened out and the tree stand fell 25 feet to the ground. Thank God I had my safety harness on! Quite a morning!

Re: Things you see from your deer stand!

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Posted by Steve Bond on October 12, 1998 at 12:08:07:

In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:

Couple of things - I hunt in a bowhunting only area so there are no shotgunners around. When conditions are right, I like to rattle and use the grunt call. Things I have rattled in - foxes, coyotes several "hunters" with crossbows looking for the deer fight and once the farmer who owned the property wandered over to "see what the racket was." One mornig, I got into my stand well before first light and sat in the dark for about a half an hour. When legal shooting time arrived, I took my bow out of the case and gave a few soft ticks on the rattling horns. Nothing came in to the horns, but I had the uneasy feeling that someone was watching me. I slowly looked around and just about fell out of my treestand. There was a great horned owl to my left, not three feet from my face, staring at me! I don't know if he was there all the time or whether he came in while I was sitting in the dark, but I never heard a sound.

Re: Things you see from your deer stand!

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Posted by Kern on October 11, 1998 at 23:59:26:

In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:

I was parked under large birch tree tryin to decide whether to use the 150 or 130 gr. loads in the 270 when I heard something coming through a thick patch on my left. I drop a shell in the gun and slowly lock the bolt then do my best impression of a tree as I wait for the beast to break cover. This was my first time out and as you can guess I was very excited. Well it turns out to be the biggest porky pine Ive ever seen. He walks to about 10 feet of where Im standing, causually looks up at me and just walks around me.

Things you see from your deer stand!

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Posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:

Just curious to know about the most interesting evening or morning that you have spent in your deer stands.... Last nite I had 14 Turkeys beneath me (What a sight) Then they ventured into the hardwoods behind me and and each and everyone of them began to roost, what a racket that was with alot leaves still on the trees, Other then their wings hitting the branchs not 1 vocal noise did they make. When I was in the local sporting store the other day I was talking to a guy that said a hawk come in the tree he was sitting in and attacked his spider on his serving, he also said he had a fox pee on his tree I guess that fox was marking his territory cause the guy was also useing a fox scent on his boots.Well thats the latest Ive seen and heard how bout the rest of ya's????

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Posted by Nick on October 10, 1998 at 19:17:39:

I am wondering how high of lead shoot I can use for hunting geese in fields. I am hunting outside of the required 200m. rule. I was told today that buckshoot was not useable ??? but could not find anything stating so in the regulations.

Re: Boots

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Posted by Kern on October 09, 1998 at 21:15:21:

In Reply to: Boots posted by Andy on October 07, 1998 at 16:30:06:

I use Nike Air hiking boots. Great for walkin the bush cause they have the arch support that I need. They dont like the water though :(

Re: Calls

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Posted by Bryan on October 09, 1998 at 19:53:31:

In Reply to: Re: Calls posted by Kern on September 11, 1998 at 13:00:31:

Its also the loudest crow call u will ever use,,,

Re: Daffy Duck Question

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Posted by Bryan on October 09, 1998 at 19:49:10:

In Reply to: Daffy Duck Question posted by Ron G on September 30, 1998 at 18:06:53:

For weights,,get old 2 x 4 and router a 1/2" wide by 3/8 deep by 6" long channel....made as may as u can without them being to close,,,get lead from garages or your local range and melt it,,,pour it in the channels and let it harden.... turn it over and whack the back of boards with a hammer...drill small hole in one end for your string,,,to stop ur line knot from becomeing undone tie a small barrel swivel into the line just below the decoy. have fun..

Re: Boots

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Posted by Bryan on October 09, 1998 at 19:42:11:

In Reply to: Boots posted by Andy on October 07, 1998 at 16:30:06:

what about a pair of nokia yukons,,,,they come in large sizes,,are made good rubber and are very warm,,i use them duck goose deey and fishin..btw mine are a good 5 years and are in perfect shape,,,so far

Re: Wild Turkey?

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Posted by Bryan on October 09, 1998 at 19:38:00:

In Reply to: Wild Turkey? posted by Andy on October 08, 1998 at 14:17:39:

Yep that is a wild turkey....prob her second hatch this year....

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Posted by Mike on October 09, 1998 at 06:01:55:

In Reply to: Re: Boots posted by Dave on October 07, 1998 at 23:42:54:

I have used the green rubber Kamviks for the last 10 - 15 years. Have to replace them every 3-4 yrs. but they are very warm & keep your feet dry....also great for ice fishing......Mike

Re: Wild Turkey?

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Posted by Andy on October 08, 1998 at 16:36:16:

In Reply to: Re: Wild Turkey? posted by Kern on October 08, 1998 at 16:21:55:

Yes, it was taken last week. And yes, there were at least 6 chicks with her. I assume that makes it unlikely to be a wild bird (don't they have broods in spring?), but I know nothing about wild turkeys. I'm hoping you fellas can ID the beast.

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Posted by Kern on October 08, 1998 at 16:21:55:

In Reply to: Wild Turkey? posted by Andy on October 08, 1998 at 14:17:39:

Hi Andy, Are you sure about the date of the pic?? Those look like two chicks in the grass around that hen!! Could be an escapee.. I know someone up around lindsay that raises wild ones for sale and every now and then some get out. MNR tells us that pen raised birds dont usually make it in the wild if they escape.

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Posted by Andy on October 08, 1998 at 14:17:39:

Please have a look at this turkey. My buddy took the photo a week ago and we are wondering if this is a wild turkey or an escapee that heard Thanksgiving is coming up.

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Posted by Dave on October 07, 1998 at 23:42:54:

In Reply to: Boots posted by Andy on October 07, 1998 at 16:30:06:

Hi Andy,

Take a look at the Rocky cornstalkers or the bear claws, the bear claw has more insulation and a different tread !! I have a pair of each, the cornstalkers are about 6 yrs old and are great, no leaks, no cuts, just a great boot, they been put through the test here hunting and have done 6 waterfowl trip through the stubble fields of Sask.

The boots are made of cordura nylon, cambrelle fabric inside to absorb sweat and they are lined with gore tex, the only negative thing i would say about the boot, is the camo dye on the nylon does not last, which is not a big deal !!

You might want to check the Sports Authority, i bought my 2nd pair there for under $80.00, they were clearing them out !! If not u might want to check Bass Pro in the U.S, i think they are giving us a exhange rate of around $1.30, have u tried Al Flahert`s on Dufferin ???

The only draw back of the leather, its to easy to cut, the cordura is tuff and light weight plus it does not absorbs water like leather will.

Good Hunting .......Dave

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Posted by Andy on October 07, 1998 at 16:30:06:

I'm looking for suggestions for hunting boots. My 10 year-old pair has been destroyed by mice so I figure I should have them replaced before I venture forth in search of deer. What's the state of the art these days? I'm looking for ones with leather uppers, heavy sole and insulated (Gortex, I guess).

But I have two problems. 1) I wear a size 15 and 2) anything that looks suitable is well over 200 bucks. Anybody have any suggestions for stores with a good selection (mostly for point 1), It's not gonna be easy finding the size I need). I already checked LeBarons on Woodbine. What brands are you people wearing and happy with?

Re: Daffy Duck Question

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Posted by Nick on October 03, 1998 at 14:52:35:

In Reply to: Daffy Duck Question posted by Ron G on September 30, 1998 at 18:06:53:

At first I used old wheel weights that I got from a local garage. Just tied them onto some heavy lbs. test fishing line and I was in business. This year I got a piece of hard wood and a 2" drill bit and drilled holes about 1 to 1 1/2" deep. I then melted down the wheel weights and poured them into the mould and made a holder for the line and set it in before the lead got hard. After I took and axe and split the wood to get the weights out. They work great! Good luck and happy hunting.

Re: Daffy Duck Question

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Posted by Bob McNally on October 03, 1998 at 04:13:14:

In Reply to: Daffy Duck Question posted by Ron G on September 30, 1998 at 18:06:53:

They do sell several types of "anchors" that you can tie on. When I hunt ponds & have no way to get the deeks out I tie 3 decoys together and on the first on I tie the anchor. To the anchor I tie another long lenth of decoy line which I leave in loose coils when I toss them out. Then I tie this to a nearby bush or what ever. Its tricky (especially in the dark) toosing 3 deeks out at a time plus the anchor but comes with practice. I use the long cord to pull the anchor in with the deeks attached when I'm done. Sometimes I have to re throw but if one goes in wrong side up then a tug on the line usually will flip it back over.

One note though: Decoy line knots seem to untie very easily so make sure you tie 5-6 knots or you can lose those anchors from the bobbing in the waves.

Bob

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Posted by Dave on October 02, 1998 at 23:45:28:

Anyone interested in joining up together, i live in the Brampton area, anyone looking for someone to hunt with pls. email me.

Good Hunting......Dave

Re: C-68...Effecting You...Purchase of Ammunition

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Posted by tackleberry on October 02, 1998 at 02:55:28:

In Reply to: Re: C-68...Effecting You...Overview....Con't posted by tackleberry on October 02, 1998 at 02:40:31:

Effective Jan.1st, 2001 anyone wishing to purchase ammo. will require a licence to possess a firearm.

Until then: a valid document with DOB or age issued by 1/ federal, provincial, territorial or municiple government 2/ an ageny, board or commission of any such government 3/a foreign government 4/ post secondary educational institute accredited by a province 5/ minors permit

Re: C-68...Effecting You...Overview....Con't

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Posted by tackleberry on October 02, 1998 at 02:40:31:

In Reply to: C-68...Effecting You...Overview posted by tackleberry on October 02, 1998 at 01:18:22:

FIREARMS POSSESSION AND ACQUISITION LICENCE Used to purchase for first time OR to make additions to your collection. Completion of the Canadian Firearm Safety Course and/or test to obtain a non-restricted firearm. To obtain a licence for restricted firearms the applicant must also complete the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course.( Not to worry lads, we are able to teach it combined as we do right now) There is a minimum 28 day waiting period for new applicants, as is now, if you are renewing and have submitted the appliction prior to the expiration date then the licence can be issued when the process is completed. The licence is valid for FIVE (5) YEARS.

REQUIRMENTS: 1/ 18 yrs. or older 2/ photograph of applicant to accompany applicatiion 3/ statement signed by person knowing applicant for three(3) years varifying the photograph 4/ statement signed by two persons (other than spouse) knowing applicant for three yrs. that information(on application) is true, and no safety risk for them to have a firearm 5/ applicant must provide name and current address and telephone number of every current or former spouse or common-law partner that had resided during the past two (2) yrs.(if current address or # unknown a statement must be written to that effect)

POSSESSION LICENCE FOR MINORS For under age 18 yrs. to possess and use, BUT NOT TO ACQUIRE, non-restricted firearms. Applicant must have permission from a parent or guardian, complete & pass the CFSC. REQUIREMENTS: 1/ photo of applicant to accompany application 2/ statement signed by parent or guardian varifying photo of applicant

Exceptions: "If a minor hunts or traps to sustain himself or herself or his or her family, there is no minimumage limit, and no no requirement to successfully complete the CFSC and pass the test."

"A person between the ages of 12 & 18 may posses a non-restricted firearm for target practice, hunting or instruction in the use of firearms or for the purpose of taking part in an organized competion. There may be conditions attached to the licence, and successful completion of the CFSC and test is manditory."

TEMPORARY LICENCES

(A)NON-RESIDENT SIXTY-DAY POSSESSION LICENCE (BORROWED FIREARM) This authorizes an 18 yrs. or older to borrow a non-restricted firearm for up to 60 days while in Canada to hunt, compete, or participate in a historical re-enactment. No requirement for CFSC or Test. A signed statement must accompany the application from a Canadian resident related to the reason for the licence.(outfitter, organizer of competion or re-enactment, hunting buddy/loaner of firearm) A non-resident borrowing a resticted firearm will have to apply for a regular possession and acquisition licence or be under the direct and immediate supervision of someone who is prpoperly licenced.

(B) VISITORS WITH FIREARMS Non-resident bringing a firearm into Canada must file a declaration with Revenue Canada Customs, confirmed prior to entry. They will have to produce an Authorization to Transport if the imported firearm is a restricted one. Once here, the declaration will act as a licence and registration certificate. Good for 60 days and can be renewed.

ACQUISITION LICENCE FOR A CROSS-BOW No such licence is required to continue possession of one already owned. However, it is required to acquire a FIRST and ANY ADDITIONAL crossbows. Application & screening process are similar to the POSSESSION & ACQUISITION FIREARMS LICENCE except there is no requirement for the CFSC or test.There is a minimum 28 day waiting period unless applicant has valid FAC.

NOTE:

1/Anyone with a valid FAC has acquisition privilages until the expiration date. (both non-restricted & restricted) If the FAC expires after Jan.1st, 2001 they will be required to hold a firearms licence prior to the expiration date of the FAC.

2/Anyone who obtained an FAC in the temporary grandfathering provision in 1995 & wishes to have acquisition licence will be require the CFSC and/or test.

3/C-68 REQUIRES ONLY MINORS & persons previously PROHIBITED FROM FIREARMS complete BOTH the course & test.

4/MINORS A/available for 12 to 18 yrs. for hunting or target practice B/must complete CFSC & test prior to applying C/may complete restricted course but can not obtain licence D/ minors permit in effect prior to C-68 will remain valid until expiration or 18th birthday

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Posted by Phil on October 02, 1998 at 02:29:10:

It' s very hard to see people leaving for the marsh, getting soaked in the pouring rain, catching colds (and ducks) and eventually coming home happy, while I can't do the same because I'm working abroad. Make wildfowling a respectable sport!

C-68...Effecting You...Overview

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Posted by tackleberry on October 02, 1998 at 01:18:22:

Well, welcome to the new age of a firearms crime free Canada. Yada, Yada, Yada.....

I have just recieved my training manual for the New Restrict Firearms Course. Here is an overview on how it will effect those of you in the sport now.

NEW INTRODUCTION: FIREARMS POSSESSION LICENCE This is your licence that allows you to maintain ownership of a firearm. 1/It is renewed every five (5) years. 2/ 18 yrs. of age or older 3/ canadian resident 4/ must own a firearm as of Oct.1,1998 5/ apply for licence before Jan.1, 2001 6/ photograph of applicant with application 7/ person knowing applicant for three year sign application and varifying photo to applicant. There is no requirement to complete the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (non-restricted) OR Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course( restricted firearms).

Re: "DUCK HUNT" Sept. 25th and 26th

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Posted by Kern on October 01, 1998 at 20:35:30:

In Reply to: Re: "DUCK HUNT" Sept. 25th and 26th posted by Nick on September 29, 1998 at 17:38:33:

Went out on the Friday opener and again on Monday. Only managed a few shots...tagged a mallard hen but it would seem she was too far for steel shot!!!

Tiny Or Luther Marsh Anyone ????

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Posted by Dave on October 01, 1998 at 14:17:50:

Has anyone been to Luther or Tiny Marsh lately ?? If so how have u done ? was there a good number of birds ??

Thanks Dave

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Posted by Dave on September 30, 1998 at 23:25:59:

In Reply to: Re: Calls posted by Kern on September 11, 1998 at 13:00:31:

Hi Kern,

Received the Half Breed last week, great volume, good goosey sound, still tring to figure out how to get out all the sounds out of it !! Very differnet since its a short reed call !!

Good Hunting.....Dave

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Posted by Dave on September 30, 1998 at 23:09:24:

In Reply to: Daffy Duck Question posted by Ron G on September 30, 1998 at 18:06:53:

U do not have to use the anchors, i just use bell or egg (fishing)weights, i use #6 for larger decoys and either #8 or 9 for smaller decoys, if the birds are close enough to see your decoy line, Then they are in shooting distance.

Good Hunting.....Dave

woodcock

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Posted by Jack Hague on September 30, 1998 at 23:05:24:

Looking for a good location to go woodcock hunting.Have dog ,will travel.

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Posted by Ron G on September 30, 1998 at 18:06:53:

OK, this may be a stupid question but....a friend and I are about to take our first try at duck hunting. Went out a bought a dozen (mallard) decoys. How do you "anchor" these things down? Realize that I ought to use green/brown coloured twine, but what do people use as weights? In addition, do I need to put one for every decoy, or have a single anchor with a number of decoys strung out along a single line?

Re: "DUCK HUNT" Sept. 25th and 26th

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Posted by Nick on September 29, 1998 at 17:38:33:

In Reply to: "DUCK HUNT" Sept. 25th and 26th posted by Hoyt on September 26, 1998 at 19:36:58:

Our hunt was rather slow ! Saw a lot of ducks but with other hunters in the area and the warm waether it made it hard to get shots off. However we had a great time, saw lots of birds and called in a few geese but without our goose decoys out they knew somthing was up and got out of range fast. We did manage to get three ducks. Going again on Thursday and will post again. Hoe did everyone else do out there..... How did you do Kern ??

Nick

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I have tried to respond to you email numerous times but my email keeps getting returned to me as unknown user...fatal error.....check your email address and try again or send me your phone number..........Mike

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FAC REQUIRED FOR ALL FIREARMS. EMAIL ME FOR COMPLETE LISTING & PRICES.

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Posted by Hoyt on September 26, 1998 at 19:36:58:

Hello All! Just wanted to say I had a really good duck hunt, My Dad and I and Josh and Bo our black lab and springer really enjoyed ourselves in WMU 61 shooting and retrieveing on our favourite pond almost harvesting our limit in ducks.Some of the highlights of this hunt were canoeing in the black dark to the island where my blind is with Josh swimming behind me unfourtunetly we spooked some geese out this morning what an beautiful sound they were echoing threw the hardwoods and not being able to see them for heavy fog. I also REALLY enjoy watching my lab retrieve at first light such a beautiful sight!! Hope all of you's had a good hunt to! Just one more thing to say, I love this sport!

Re: Ducks in the North Bay area

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Posted by Tom Murphy on September 26, 1998 at 19:34:26:

In Reply to: Re: Ducks in the North Bay area posted by Wayne G. Stickland on September 26, 1998 at 10:42:11:

Thanks for suggestions given for places to duck hunt. We went to Wasy Lake near Powassan to try our luck. We had great shooting...teal, mallards and Canada geese. It was more of a morning spot than a night spot. Surprisingly the ducks start to come in an hour after daybreak. Noted lots of partridge in the area and even saw a doe.

Re: Ducks in the North Bay area

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Posted by Wayne G. Stickland on September 26, 1998 at 10:42:11:

In Reply to: Re: Ducks in the North Bay area posted by Kern on September 23, 1998 at 10:18:12:

Hi Tom: Two places in particular--Cache Bay which is on the North West side of Lake Nip and also Callander Bay which is situated on the south east potion of the lake. Both places will require an aluminum boat...lake Nip can blow up quick...be careful. Hope all goes well, North Bay is a beautiful place, enjoy!

Re: 60 A survey

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Posted by Mike on September 26, 1998 at 08:52:39:

In Reply to: 60 A survey posted by Richard on September 25, 1998 at 20:19:07:

1997 ANTLERLESS DEER VALIDATION TAG RESULTS FOR 60A

QUOTA 1600 APLICATIONS 1ST CHOICE 6086 2ND CHOICE 3466 ALLOCATIONS 1ST CHOICE 1600 2ND CHOICE 0 % OF 1ST CHOICE 26%

I have been hunting this area and 56 for the last 20 yrs. during which time I have had a tag at least 75% of the time.......but lo and behold....not this year!! Hope this helps....by the way the info comes from the Fall 98 - Spring 99 regs. page 25. Good luck.........Mike

60 A survey

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Posted by Richard on September 25, 1998 at 20:19:07:

Hi all just a quick question to the group, does anyone know what the precentage of anterless tags for this area. My two buddies and myself have been aplling for such tags for the last 6 years and as of yet we have been unsuccesful. We were just wondering if anyone else has the same luck LOL.

Re: waterfowl

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Posted by Kern on September 23, 1998 at 10:21:34:

In Reply to: waterfowl posted by Nick on September 22, 1998 at 08:13:35:

All ready here too NIck, weather looks like its gonna be overcast and wet...I like that. Are you going to be at your blind for the opener?? Ill do ducks in the morning and when it slows down Ill probably go look for a few grouse..let me know how you do.

Kern

Re: Ducks in the North Bay area

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Posted by Kern on September 23, 1998 at 10:18:12:

In Reply to: Ducks in the North Bay area posted by Tom Murphy on September 21, 1998 at 22:06:04:

Hi Tom, If your gonna be on open water the boat will be the way to go. In a marsh a canoe makes more sense...Im asuming you've shot from a canoe before?? Takes some getting used to.

waterfowl

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Posted by Nick on September 22, 1998 at 08:13:35:

Well only a few more days away and I can't wait ! Everything is checked and packed. All the best of luck to everyone going out on opening day !

Nick

Ducks in the North Bay area

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Posted by Tom Murphy on September 21, 1998 at 22:06:04:

Going to meet my son in North Bay for some duck hunting on Thursday. Any suggestions for areas to try would be greatly appreciated. Also do I bring my canoe, aluminum boat or both.

Re: Snowshoe Hare

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Posted by Moccasin Trail Beagles on September 18, 1998 at 21:57:53:

In Reply to: Snowshoe Hare posted by Moccasin Trail Beagles on September 18, 1998 at 12:55:21:

I live in Oklahoma, U.S.A. and have 10 Beagles, but all I've ever run is cottontails. We don't get much snow down here, so my hounds don't get much practice on snow. I am trying to work up a hare hunting trip, maybe to Michigan. I am talking to a Beagler from there. I think it would be a BLAST. I just enjoy hearing the race and if I got to shoot a hare, that would just be iceing on the cake.

Re: Snowshoe Hare

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Posted by Jack on September 18, 1998 at 17:21:07:

In Reply to: Snowshoe Hare posted by Moccasin Trail Beagles on September 18, 1998 at 12:55:21:

Yes!!!!

Good fun, snowshoe do not hole up when you put the pressure them like a cotton tail.See them in the snow is not easy.

Snowshoe Hare

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Posted by Moccasin Trail Beagles on September 18, 1998 at 12:55:21:

Does anyone hunt Snowshoe Hare with Beagles?

Re: Background, Interests & Specialties

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Posted by Fischer on September 18, 1998 at 11:24:46:

In Reply to: Background, Interests & Specialties posted by Tackleberry on September 17, 1998 at 01:04:21:

I know I'm not a regular contributor at this site, but I check in quite often.

My interest in hunting started as a kid when I hunted chuck on my grandfathers farm. My first job after high school was working at a gun shop (Lovett's, in Kitchener) where I developed an interest in handgun shooting and reloading, and competed for almost ten years locally. Also did some hunting for deer and ducks, but after leaving Lovett's, got a job at the local humane society, where I ended up as the Cruelty Inspector (proof that love of animals and hunting are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I know a number of veterinarians who hunt). My deer hunting continued for a while, despite the fact that I was often able to fill my freezer with fresh road-kill deer. Now I work as an investigator for a professional organization.

My interest in hunting and shooting waned after I took up Steelheading 10 years ago, but this year my 15 year old son got his hunting licence on his own initiative, and he's begging me to take him out. Couldn't swing any trips for chucks this year, sold off a lot of my guns over the years and finances are slim to let me re-build my collection. I hope to get him out this winter for rabbits and upland game, though, as he is really keen, and I like to encourage his outdoor pursuits. Always on the lookout for a good deal on rifles and shotguns. Maybe a moose hunt is in our future.

Re: GPS comparision

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Posted by Bob on September 17, 1998 at 12:54:50:

In Reply to: GPS comparision posted by Andy Leal on September 16, 1998 at 23:50:40:

I currently am using the MAGELLAN 3000XL. Spend the extra money and get this unit instead of the 2000. I have used this unit now for about a year and I have not had any problems with it locking on to satellites (even in nasty black cedar swamps), eating batteries too quickly, etc.

It has more screens than you probably will ever need and the 4 AA batteries do last an awful long time.

This unit comes with a 12V power adaptor that can be used in your car, boat, ATV etc. This is a really good feature to have if you are going to be using it a lot. It also comes with a mounting bracket (I mounted this on my boat) that is really handy.

You are getting a better machine, as well as getting these "extras" for the additional $.

I have had a chance to compare it to the EAGLE (side-by-side) and I personaly find the 3000XL to be more "user friendly".

Well worth the money.

PS. If you are at all unsure of how to make it "go", invest in the video that you can also purchase with it. (Use the video as a buying leverge tool ... like if you include the video n/c I might be inclined to buy your GPS here and now Mr. Salesman).

Re: GPS comparision

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Posted by Frank on September 17, 1998 at 11:09:24:

In Reply to: GPS comparision posted by Andy Leal on September 16, 1998 at 23:50:40:

I purchased the Magellan ColorTrak GPS and I am extremely happy with the Magellan line of products. My unit is very accurate. I tend to like the larger viewing area of the Magellan products.

TASCO SCOPE FOR SALE

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Posted by MIKE on September 17, 1998 at 06:08:49:

TASCO WORLD CLASS WIDE ANGLE RANGE FINDING/TRAJECTORY COMPENSATING SCOPE 3-9X40mm TR39X40WA IN EXCELLETN CONDITION $200.00 OBO CAN BE SEEN IN BRAMPTON EMAIL ME FOR DIRECTIONS

Special Note:Extension of Deadline for new EXAM

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Posted by Bob McNally on September 17, 1998 at 01:41:28:

The previous deadline has been extended for the writing of the FAC exam without having to take the course also. Previous deadline was OCT 1st after which you would not be able to only write the exam to get your FAC. You would have to take the course AND THEN write the exam.

The new deadline has been extended till FEB 1st 1999. I believe my sources to be correct but you might be best to check anyways cause you've got to find out how to get your new FAC and arrange to take the exam soon anyways. Don't delay!

Bob

Re: Background, Interests & Specialties=>I'm in!

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Posted by Bob McNally on September 17, 1998 at 01:30:00:

In Reply to: Background, Interests & Specialties posted by Tackleberry on September 17, 1998 at 01:04:21:

Hi Tack

How's this for a quick response! (minus the time to type this) I'm 44 yrs old, drive a bus for ParaTranspo here in Ottawa where I've worked for 6.5 yrs. (Thats 6 point 5...not 65...) Before that I sold Real Estate for Royal Lepage, before that I managed a womens shoe store for 10 years! I've hunted since I was 9yrs old thanks to my Dad who I seem to only be able to drag out hunting for the first week of the rifle hunt when I hunt with a great group of 8-12 guys from all backgrounds in WMU 58 in the Griffith/Calabogie area. (West of Renfrew) My Dad has spent much of the past 20years (or more) handgun shooting at a club here in Ottawa and at various "shoots" they go to aroung Ontario.

My first love was Partridge hunting which I've done since "the beginning"! I did start with my Dad on the occassional duck hunt but too young to "carry" then. For 20+ years I've deer hunted with a rifle and for about the past 4 yrs with a bow. My duck hunting is nearing its end cause my 12 year old yellow lab is close to the end & the "wife" says no to another dog. Its not the same hunting ducks near ponds without a good dog. My son who is 9 yrs old has hunted with me for about 5 yrs now! ( First year he rode in a large back pack when he got tired! Ha! And my wife thought she'd stop me from hunting by making me babysit. Little did she know I was just "preparing" my future hunting companion!)

I'm not sure what this year will bring because I'm a little disappointed in myself for last year; I spent more time in front of this darn PC than I got out hunting. :-( But things are looking up for this year...maybe I'll get a laptop!!

(Only kidding...the day I bring a PC to my treestand will be the day I quit hunting!) Seriously though (yea right!) I'm heading out this Saturday and my son will probably be tagging along. Heading up near the huntcamp for daylight. First for some ducks, then try a few lakes for some speckles with the possibilty of some partridge mixed in.

Well there; now you know my life story.

%^)

Bob

Background, Interests & Specialties

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Posted by Tackleberry on September 17, 1998 at 01:04:21:

I saw an interesting string on another sight tonight that I thought I'd try to start. It appeared to have a very successful response.

What do all the users of this site do? Professionally, Backgrounds, Specific Interests In Hunting or Shooting.

Myself, I'm 31 yrs. old and a Sworn Peace Officer for the University of Toronto Police for the past 7yrs. (wow!! that's scary) I'm a Certified F.A.C. Instructor, I hunt both large & small game and compete in the International Defencive Pistol Asso. My wife of four years, works at the Guelph General and I have a wonderful turbo-driven 4x4 nine month old daughter.

Specifically hunting, I was a fanatic chuck hunter prior to my marriage (every available day was divoted, shift work accutually helped) Now that my daughter has arrived the only chucks I've seen is commuting to work, I 'll be working on next year. The past four years however has brought moose and deer into the fold. Moose is in MWU 54 Halibuton Forest, "Golden Nugget Hunt Camp". Deer is MWU 80 Rockford (Owen Sound), the home range of the Nugget Lake fellas. Where, I might add with pride, I took two does last year at approx.30yrd. with double 00. Had I had my Lever 44mag. thirty mins. earlier I would have a beautiful rack at home. (That's all I have to say about that....)

Well let's see who/what's out there? It is surely the best way for networking.

Stay Safe , Tack

Re: Just Ducky

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Posted by Bob McNally on September 17, 1998 at 01:03:52:

In Reply to: Just Ducky posted by Ron G. on September 16, 1998 at 18:21:45:

Hi Ron

If you can then get a few. Maybe 3 to 6.(Not too much expense & if you like it then you can buy more) I must say though that its not absolutely necessary in some situations. I hunt small ponds and have "always" carried in some. Sometimes I put in 3, other times 10-12. Thing is where I hunt you don't really need them cause the ducks fly over anyways! Usually when they can see the deeks is when they clear the treetops not too far away. It might help to get a few to circle and come back for a second look. It can help at times and at other times not help but its still fun to put them out and helps build the anticipation for the hunt!

Hunt safe and good luck!

Bob

Bob & Kern

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Posted by Bob McNally on September 17, 1998 at 00:50:56:

In Reply to: Area 58 When does Partridge season open?? posted by Bob McNally on September 16, 1998 at 03:28:49:

Thanks Bob for your reply so quick. Read message earlier but tried to reply and my browser froze up. I called them today and they're sending me a copy. Thanks Kern ...I realize there is alink at the top of the page but I could have sworn that they still had last years posted. That is till I just checked "again"! I also checked the one on my harddrive which is the same one. Yep 1998-1999!!

Boy did I ever goof! Think I could be losing my mind & it might be related to spending too much time on the net!

Thanks again guys Bob

GPS comparision

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Posted by Andy Leal on September 16, 1998 at 23:50:40:

I'm looking to buy a GPS but I'm stuck between the Eagle Explorer and the Magellan 2000XL. Any suggestions ?????

Just Ducky

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Posted by Ron G. on September 16, 1998 at 18:21:45:

Plan on going duck hunting for the first time this year. Looking at going to Valens conservation area, where I can rent a blind.

What about decoys? Are they absolutely required, nice to have...? If so, how many? Any other tips for a rookie? Thanks in advance.

Re: Area 58 When does Partridge season open??

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Posted by Kern on September 16, 1998 at 14:20:13:

In Reply to: Area 58 When does Partridge season open?? posted by Bob McNally on September 16, 1998 at 03:28:49:

You can download the regs at the MNR link at the top of the page. You will also need Adobe Acrobat Reader to read the file but that is also a free down load, unless you have a browser that reads PDF files.

Re: Area 58 When does Partridge season open??

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Posted by Bob on September 16, 1998 at 09:24:28:

In Reply to: Area 58 When does Partridge season open?? posted by Bob McNally on September 16, 1998 at 03:28:49:

Area 53 - 59 small game season opens the same day as ducks ... Saturday September 19 and closes December 15, 1998.

Area 58 When does Partridge season open??

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Posted by Bob McNally on September 16, 1998 at 03:28:49:

Does anyone have a copy of the new "regs"? Can't find ANY in Ottawa. Have to give MNR a call I guess but want to find out when Partridge opens in Area 58. It used to be on Sept 20th but so was duck & goose in that area. Bought the migratory bird permit today...YIKES $17 +tax =$18.19!!! This year ducks opens there (Central zone) on the 19th. Hope grouse does too!

Thanks for your help Bob

Re: Day 1 Early Goose Hunt

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Posted by Kern on September 14, 1998 at 19:36:49:

In Reply to: Re: Day 1 Early Goose Hunt posted by Frank on September 14, 1998 at 13:57:20:

My first two days were the best. Lots of birds to call even had a few shots...but after that they were all spooked. On thursday I saw one bird for the morning and he was so high I dont think he even heard the call or he Ignored it!! I called it a week after that. Im hoping the 25th will be better.

Re: Day 1 Early Goose Hunt

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Posted by Frank on September 14, 1998 at 13:57:20:

In Reply to: Day 1 Early Goose Hunt posted by Kern on September 08, 1998 at 16:55:38:

Hi Kern, I just got back from the pre-season goose hunt. I stayed for the full 5 days. We were 5 the first day. We managed to get 13 geese altogether. That day was not so bad for us. The remaining 4 days I was alone. For some odd reason the geese would just not come in. In four days I managed to fire just 6 shots. I did not get any geese the remaining 4 days. The geese were just flying south of where I was. My calling and decoys would not bring them in. I guess they were spooked because of the first day. We were hunting in a farmers cornfield on Lake Simcoe. How did you do? I can't wait for Sept. 25!

BOW HUNTING PARTNER

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Posted by MIKE on September 12, 1998 at 08:55:00:

I'm looking for a bow hunting partner/friend in the Brampton area. I'm 47 and happily married. I have hunted deer with a rifle for upwards of 20 years and will continue to do so with my gang in Haliburton but I am interested in getting into hunting deer with a bow in and around the Brampton area. Anybody out there interested in teaching an old dog new tricks??? You can email me and I will respond.......thanking you in advance......MIKE

BOW HUNTING PARTNER

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Posted by MIKE on September 12, 1998 at 08:54:26:

I'm looking for a bow hunting partner/friend in the Brampton area. I'm 47 and happily married. I have hunted deer with a rifle for upwards of 20 years and will continue to do so with my gang in Haliburton but I am interested in getting into hunting deer with a bow in and aroung the Brampton area. Anybody out there interested in teaching an old dog new tricks??? You can email me and I will respond.......thanking you in advance......MIKE

Re: Calls

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Posted by Kern on September 11, 1998 at 13:00:31:

In Reply to: Calls posted by Dave on September 10, 1998 at 21:25:47:

Hi Dave, Ive heard of Tim Grounds Half breed goose calls. They are suppose to be the call of choice for people who are serious about calling. I use a Sure shot super honker for geese and a sure shot Mallard for ducks. The duck call is great. Are you thinking of getting a half breed???

Calls

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Posted by Dave on September 10, 1998 at 21:25:47:

Wondering what everyones choice is for goose calls and ducks ?? I use a Haydel for ducks and geese as well as a Knight & Hale Double Cluck for geese.

Anyone use or heard Tim Grounds Half Breed Canada goose call ??

HANDGUNS FOR SALE

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Posted by MIKE on September 09, 1998 at 05:52:57:

I have a few handguns (5-6) ranging from .22 calibre to .45ACP for sale. FAC REQUIRED. Email me for complete lists & prices.......Thanks......MIKE

Day 1 Early Goose Hunt

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Posted by Kern on September 08, 1998 at 16:55:38:

Was up around the Barrie area and saw hundreds of them. Practice with the call has paid off, I can turn small groups of birds toward me now....all I have to do now is practice how to judge height a little better :) How did everyone else do??????

how to get rid of GroundHog??

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Posted by JEssie on September 07, 1998 at 12:44:21:

In Reply to: First groundhog hunt... posted by Pete on May 04, 1998 at 11:02:46:

hello, i am not looking forward to hunt GroundHog becasue i think they are all God's creatures. Anyways, but they are a HUGE problem in our house, they are everywhere! My dad is trying to scared them away but it didn't work, we just want a way to get ride of them but not hurting them. thanx. please e-mail me if you have any ideas. thank you very much~! JEssie

Re: Goose weather

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Posted by Nick on September 05, 1998 at 08:47:25:

In Reply to: Goose weather posted by Kern on September 01, 1998 at 21:42:45:

Can't wait for the season to open ! How did everyone make out on the on the early season ?

Re: big buck"s shed first

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Posted by brock on September 02, 1998 at 13:51:52:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first posted by Hoyt on March 20, 1998 at 13:15:42:

I have had some luck finding sheds Ive found three or for large four point sheds And two large ten point sheds

TO TACKLEBERRY

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Posted by MIKE on September 02, 1998 at 06:01:56:

Did you get the firearms list I sent you???? Mike

Goose weather

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Posted by Kern on September 01, 1998 at 21:42:45:

Looking for a bit of rain this year. Last year onthe first couple days of the goose opener it was sunny, clear and quite breezy. Didnt see a lot birds on the move. Hoping for cloudy wet days this year!!

Re: First groundhog hunt...

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Posted by Power Wade on August 30, 1998 at 16:57:51:

In Reply to: First groundhog hunt... posted by Pete on May 04, 1998 at 11:02:46:

I love to ground hog hunt. I use a 22-250. A friend of mine uses the nosler bt in his 243 and the results are mixed. Some bullets explod and some just just zip in and out with no real damage. I use Federal 55 grain hp.It does not blow them apart but I can shoot out to 500 yards and hit 95 % of the targets. Good luck hunting!!

Re: Bow Hunting Partner

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Posted by MIKE on August 28, 1998 at 04:27:10:

In Reply to: Re: Bow Hunting Partner posted by paul on August 24, 1998 at 15:33:24:

Have sent you 2 emails & both returned.....says your email address incorrect......let me know...email me.......MIKE

Saskatchewan Disgrace

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Posted by Dave Brown on August 27, 1998 at 10:53:01:

To Whom It May Concern:

The "adventure" described herein took place October 5 -10 1997 in the Hudson Bay, Saskatchewan. The "outfitter was Tom Plante of Fir River Holdings. The following correspondence falls into the "I Thought You Should Know Category". Those persons named here are a disgrace to all outfitters/guides. They took the trip of a lifetime and turned it into a disgusting experience. If this had occurred in the USA the complaint would be handled in court. As it is, my only resource amounts to this and many other letters. I also plan to attend outdoor shows and distribute this evaluation.

To preface my remarks please consider that I had prepared and dreamed of such a trip for many years. Financial and time constraints had delayed those plans until last fall. Sometime ago I began researching different options as to outfitters and locations offering trophy whitetail deer hunting. I was introduced to Fir River Holdings early in 1997 when Tom Plante and Glenn Schultz came to Pennsylvania. During that visit we discussed a muzzleloader hunt for deer and bear. The promises and conditions presented convinced me to go to Hudson Bay for the trip of a lifetime.

I was assured that I would be able to hunt for both species in areas where stands were regularly monitored to determine the quality and number of animals visiting the fields and bait stations. In reality, no scouting had been done and there were no bear stands at all. I was assigned to eight(8) different deer stands in five(5) days. The hay at all but one of these stands had not been touched by a deer of ANY size. Most had been in place less then a week. In fact, I helped the guide erect the eighth one the morning of October 10.

With respect to my effort it should be noted that I hunted 82% of the daylight hours available. I have been a professional wildlife manager for 32.5 years, and know that mature whitetail deer do not respond well to anything new. Even with this in mind I went where I was told.

Further complicating the situation was my guide assignment. He arrived in Hudson Bay the same day that I did--he did not know where the stands were located, nor did he hunt or really approve of killing deer. Marty was a good companion but that does not qualify him as a guide. He may or may not have been licensed since he lived in Prince Albert.

The accommodations (meals and lodging) were also poorly organized. Tom first told me I would be taking my meals in town but that did not happen. For all but one breakfast I fixed toast and coffee at camp. I made all my own lunches. Evening meals with as many as six(6) guests were served at camp after being prepared elsewhere. Following dinner EVERYONE left --- leaving dirty dishes, pots, pans, and cleanup for me. The lodging itself was adequate, but the camp was filthy. The food counter, beds and window sills were littered with dead and dying flies. The floor was covered with mud. It got worse every day.

Minuses can outnumber pluses only so long before a correction is in order. When I was assigned another new stand for Friday morning I knew my request for a new approach were being ignored. Not knowing what else to do I asked to leave--three(3) days early. There were no questions asked, no unpleasant words, explanation, or excuses--in fact, there was no discussion at all. About 11:00 a.m. on Friday Tom took my plane tickets to the travel agency. I never saw or heard from him again. About 9:00 p.m. the same evening Marty called and said we were going to Saskatoon right then. We arrived there about 1:00 am Saturday morning. This forced me to rent a motel for two(2) nights at $50.00 per night because my return flight was scheduled for Sunday at 7:00 a.m. The rescheduling was an additional $75.00.

Conversations during the visit and the inquiries upon arriving home revealed additional disturbing information. It seems that Tom Plante was directly involved in the death of another person, in addition he was recently hospitalized (August 1997) for substance abuse and is a self-confessed alcoholic. He often brags about beating up LAW OFFICERS (i.e. RCMP) and anyone else who dares cross him. Plante constantly berated other outfitters and implied that I better not talk to any of them. Considering his character I am glad I did not take the threat lightly.

It seems that every phase of the operation was misrepresented in some way. For example, Mr. Plante is himself not a licensed outfitter--he was using license #F2016 which belongs to Glenn Schultz. It is my guess that this correspondence will do little to change that. I honestly could not have been more disappointed as I watched my dream become a nightmare. Hopefully I can see to it that anyone planning such a trip can avoid these people and anyone associated with them.

Sincerely,

David W. Brown RD#4 Box 200 Westfield, Pa 16950 (814) 326-4553

P.S. I am willing to discuss this situation further. Feel free to contact me at any time

Need Info On Browning 30.06

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Posted by Frank on August 26, 1998 at 15:53:15:

I am planning to purchase a Browning Mark II Safari semi-auto 30.06. Can anyone provide me with some info on this gun? Is it a good gun? Are their any problems with it? Thanks.

Re: Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Frank on August 24, 1998 at 21:49:39:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Kern on August 24, 1998 at 20:36:10:

Hi Kern, Yeah I know the Oshawa/Whitby area all too well. There are a lot of geese in that area. Too many hunters opening season though. I have a cottage up in the Lake Simcoe area and that is where we do our goose hunting with my other 3 hunting partners. The farmers have plowed their fields and that has made the geese look for other feeding areas. As for your calling geese with a caller, just keep practicing. What has helped us was going out and buying a tape that explained the different types of calls. We are still practicing ourselves. We have gotten better with practice and we have been able to call geese in. Best of luck to you in the hunt!

Re: Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Kern on August 24, 1998 at 20:36:10:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Frank on August 24, 1998 at 17:40:05:

Hi Frank, Unfortunatly I live out in Courtice so scouting the areas where the early goose season is most times isnt possible. I am thinking of using this weekend to try to get out and do some scouting though. As for geese, I dont know if you drive around the Oshawa /Whitby area, but there are always hundreds of the critters in the sky at night and in the morning. I must admit though, it would appear as though there arent as many on the move this year as last. The same for puddle ducks...I think its due to the excessive precip we had last year compared to this year although that would explain why the geese numbers are down! Im still working on my calling, hopefully this year they will come to the call rather than flee from it :)

Re: Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Frank on August 24, 1998 at 17:40:05:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Kern on August 20, 1998 at 21:48:41:

Hi Kern, Yes, my buddies and I use magnum geese decoys and calls. We do most of our hunting on the boundaries of area 76 and 78. I dont't know what is happening but about 3 weeks ago the geese were flying in by the thousands. Up until last week there have been very few that have been flying overhead or landing in the fields. Have you done any scouting?

Re: GPS?????

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Posted by Frank on August 24, 1998 at 17:32:48:

In Reply to: GPS????? posted by MIKE on August 23, 1998 at 08:42:14:

They are all right when they say that GPS's won't work well under cover (heavy brush). You must have a relatively clear area. The unit must be able to lock onto at least 3 satellites for a fix. As long as you can reach a relatively clear (or really thin brush) area you should be O.K. I have just purchased the new Magellan ColourTrak 12 parallel channel GPS unit. I have used it on my boat. Let me tell you that it has been extremely accurate for me out on the water. I will be using it for hunting. I have been extremely happy with this unit. It is not cheap though. It sells for between $399 - $427. You have to shop around.

Re: Bow Hunting Partner

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Posted by paul on August 24, 1998 at 15:33:24:

In Reply to: Bow Hunting Partner posted by Mike on August 24, 1998 at 06:02:48:

i live in brampton.e mail me.

Bow Hunting Partner

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Posted by Mike on August 24, 1998 at 06:02:48:

I have been an avid deer hunter (rifle/shotgun) for the last 20 years. I want to get into bow hunting and am looking for a friend/partner to guide me in this endeavor. I reside in the Brampton area and I'm 47 & married. Would there be anybody in the area who would be interested in teaming up with an old dog and teach him some new tricks????? Looking forward to hearing from you.......MIKE

Bow Hunting Partner

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Posted by Mike on August 24, 1998 at 06:02:08:

I have been an avid deer hunter (rifle/shotgun) for the last 20 years. I want to get into bow hunting and am looking for a friend/partner to guide me in this endeavor. I reside in the Brampton area and I am 47 & married. Would there be anybody in the area who would be interested in teaming up with an old dog and teach him some new tricks????? Looking forward to hearing from you.......MIKE

Re: FIREARMS FOR SALE

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Posted by Tackleberry on August 23, 1998 at 23:53:12:

In Reply to: FIREARMS FOR SALE posted by MIKE on August 19, 1998 at 06:12:25:

Mike, drop me a line please. I'm an F.A.C. instructor and am soon to be required to have a single action revlover. I have everything else. Just looking for an inexpensive one, An common cal. will do.

Now that I think of it, give me a list of what you have, and I'll ask around.

timothy_morden@campuslife.utoronto.ca

GPS?????

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Posted by MIKE on August 23, 1998 at 08:42:14:

Has anyone purchased a GPS that works good in the woods??? I want to purchase one for deer hunting but have found that most say they will not work well under heavy tree cover......any info would be greatly appreciated.....thanks......MIKE

Re: Deer Hunt Survey

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Posted by Michael Gregoric on August 21, 1998 at 22:02:04:

In Reply to: Deer Hunt Survey posted by Ron on August 21, 1998 at 21:38:03:

E-mail me, and I'll tell you a way around that.

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Posted by Ron on August 21, 1998 at 21:38:03:

Just filling out my application for Deer hunting in WMU with controlled numbers. You know when you get your tags each year, there is a survey attached which says if you "don't fill this out, you can't get a tag next year." Anybody know if that is actually true, or not? With the mail strike on last year, I never sent mine in. Am I REALLY going to be ineligable this year?

Re: Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Kern on August 20, 1998 at 21:48:41:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Frank on August 15, 1998 at 13:53:01:

Hi Frank, For the early hunt i usually hunt 76 and 77. Do you use any calls???

Browning BAR Mark II Safari 30.06

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Posted by Frank on August 20, 1998 at 16:15:49:

I am planning on purchasing the Browning BAR Mark II 30.06 semi auto. I plan to pick it up at the hunting show. Does anyone own such a gun? Can anyone provide me with some feedback on this gun? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

FIREARMS FOR SALE

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Posted by MIKE on August 19, 1998 at 06:12:25:

I have a few handguns ranging from .22 calibre to .45ACP for sale. FAC required....email me for complete list and prices.....

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Posted by Frank on August 15, 1998 at 13:53:01:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Kern on August 09, 1998 at 20:05:14:

Where do you goose hunt? Have you tried the prehunt before? I mainly hunt in areas 76 and 78 for the goose prehunt.

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Posted by Frank on August 15, 1998 at 13:50:42:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Nick on August 12, 1998 at 08:26:55:

I hunt in two areas for the prehunt. These are areas 76 and 78. At Darlington, you will have to park in a designated spot in order to hunt there. At times there can be a lot of people trying to hunt there. They really don't have a lot of blinds. Good luck to you.

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Posted by frank on August 15, 1998 at 13:46:40:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Nick on August 12, 1998 at 08:26:55:

I hunt in two areas for the prehunt. These are areas 76 and 78. At Darlington it will be first come first served since you have to park in a designated spot in order to hunt. Good luck to you.

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Posted by Kern on August 13, 1998 at 21:46:37:

In Reply to: Re: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Nick on August 12, 1998 at 08:26:55:

I plan to do at least one day at Darlington too Nick. I went there the other day to have a look but didnt get as far as the marsh. The park ranger was at the main gate so i just asked him a few questions about the hunt. Im surprised they dont have an early season that close to the lake...with all the geese problems and all around here.

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Kern on August 13, 1998 at 21:36:37:

In Reply to: Re: FAC Exam posted by Tackleberry on August 12, 1998 at 08:37:23:

Oh well... another course and another exam....why dont they make it as difficult to get a drivers licence!! I feel safer walkin in the bush during the hunting season than I do driving to work every morning!!! At least when (IF) bill C68 is passed into law, our hole country will be rid of violent crimes carried out with guns. No longer will we have to lock our doors at night. The scary part of all this is the people we have elected to lead this country actually believe that crap....nuf said.

Moose Hunt Seminar

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Posted by Tackleberry on August 12, 1998 at 17:19:59:

Thought I would put plug in here for my Club. Rick Foss is hosting a Moose Hunting Seminar on the two dates listed below.( if I recall correctly he is a biologist and a "trophy hunter") I attended a seminar last year by him and was brought to a better understanding on Moose habitat. The seminar will take place in the training room at SHOOTER'S CHOICE/COLBY SHOOTING CLUB.

TOPICS COVERED 1/Feeding & Breeding Areas 2/ Finding Moose in All Kinds of Weather 3/ Understanding The Rut 4/ Calling Techniques 5/ Maps of Best Spots In Each WMU's

Sat. Aug.29th 1:00 pm to 4:00 pm

Mon. Sept.14th 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Tackleberry on August 12, 1998 at 08:37:23:

In Reply to: Re: FAC Exam posted by Kern on August 09, 1998 at 21:33:39:

Yes Kern, you are correct the F.A.C. is for aquiring a firearm. This includes purchasing (retail or private) borrowing (not withstanding "direct supervision") and receiving via a will. Yes, the FAC is not required for transportation or storage. The exam is manditory for "ALL" renewals and first time applications. If yours is about to expire soon, the concern you will have is to submit your renewal prior to that date. An expire FAC has no consideration attached to it. Thus the 28 day waiting peroid applies and the fifty ($50) dollar fee also applies. When the renewal is submitted prior to the expire date the fee is halved and it can be issued as soon as the process is completed. Again, yes you must successfully complete the exam.

Safe Shooting!

Re: Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Nick on August 12, 1998 at 08:26:55:

In Reply to: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Frank on August 08, 1998 at 22:09:35:

So Frank what area are you looking at on Sept. 8th? Never gone on this early season hunt... looking at hunting at Darlington for a day this year as I stopped in a couple of months ago and the place was loaded with geese. The staff advised me that there are geese everywhere!

Nick

Re: Waterfowl

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Posted by Nick on August 12, 1998 at 08:24:26:

In Reply to: Re: Waterfowl posted by Kern@idirect.com on August 09, 1998 at 20:21:22:

Kern, Got an updated list on the place in Cambridge. I'll find it out and post something later this week. Not sure if they do an early goose hunt?

Nick

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Bob McNally on August 10, 1998 at 02:43:23:

In Reply to: Re: FAC Exam posted by Kern on August 09, 1998 at 21:33:39:

Why don't you ask something easy like "When does duck saeson start?"! ;-)

If I remember right...Yes you need a permit which will be called a "FPC" which is a Firearm POSSESSION Certificate. This doesn't allow purchase of a new gun. Forget if the one allowing purchase is called the same or not. Before a certain date you only need to write the exam. After that same certain date (?) you will have to take the course & the exam. The course & exam now cover handguns/muzzle loaders so even though you might never use one you are required to know how to handle as well as you know your trusty old shotgun! I think the "certain" date is this fall some time but I could be wrong. Getting close!

Bob

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Kern on August 09, 1998 at 21:33:39:

In Reply to: Re: FAC Exam posted by Tackleberry on August 07, 1998 at 22:38:10:

Im not 100% versed in the new gun law, but i was wondering.... If someone decides they have all the guns they need for what ever they do ie: trap & skeet, hunting or competition hand gun, do they have to renew their FAC???? My understanding of present legislation is that the FAC is only required for aquiring a fire arm not owner ship or transportation. Also...does everyone have to take this FAC exam??? Mine expires next year. If I renew before it expires do I have to take the exam???

Re: Waterfowl

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Posted by Kern@idirect.com on August 09, 1998 at 20:21:22:

In Reply to: Re: Waterfowl posted by Nick on August 08, 1998 at 06:50:53:

The new 870 is a nice gun. Comes in 3 1/2 inch now and if you get the deer combo your laughin. Havent decided if Im going to the show. When will you be going?? Last November you posted some info on Goose outfitters out Cambridge way. I think the half day hunt was only 75 bucks. You thinkin of tryin it this year or are ya gonna stay local??

Re: Pickering Rod and Gun Club?

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Posted by Kern@idirect.com on August 09, 1998 at 20:16:41:

In Reply to: Pickering Rod and Gun Club? posted by Frank on August 05, 1998 at 17:46:50:

If you look throught he older posts you will find the number. Charlie posted it some time ago.

Re: Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Kern on August 09, 1998 at 20:05:14:

In Reply to: Goose prehunt anyone? posted by Frank on August 08, 1998 at 22:09:35:

Ya Frank, I go every year. I wait all summer for that week!!

Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Frank on August 08, 1998 at 22:09:35:

Anyone getting ready to do some goose prehunting on Sept. 8 in certain WMU's? Geese right now are in by the thousands!

Goose prehunt anyone?

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Posted by Frank on August 08, 1998 at 22:08:45:

Anyone getting ready to do some goose rehunting on Sept. 8 in certain WMU's? Geese right now are in by the thousands!

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Mike on August 08, 1998 at 08:43:28:

In Reply to: Re: FAC Exam posted by Tackleberry on August 07, 1998 at 22:38:10:

Gee...I wonder if that was me......sounds like it...Mike

Re: Waterfowl

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Posted by Nick on August 08, 1998 at 06:50:53:

In Reply to: Re: Waterfowl posted by Kern on August 07, 1998 at 23:01:33:

Kern, Well not really sure..... my thoughts at the moment are going for the Remington 870.. but will try and figure it out when I get there ! Are you going to the show Kern ? Perhpas we can finally meet?

Reloading Ammo.

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Posted by Tackleberry on August 08, 1998 at 04:39:14:

My question is technical in nature. Relating to the.308 WIN (7.62mm NATO) and the 7.62x39mm Russian. The diameters are the same, right? Well I recently saw in print that (in imperial measurements) the NATO round is .308 and the Russian is .310 .

What would the likelyhood of accuracy and engaving be, by loading a NATO bullet into a Russan case?

Not withstanding, bullet weight to twist ratio.

The reasoning for posing the question.....7.62x39mm is maufactured on average with a 123 gr. bullet. My curiousity is to load a mid-weight to full- weight bullet of .308 WIN into a 7.62 x 39mm case and determine performace. I also know that the bullet will take up more space in the throat of the case due to the weight factor. Along with added weight, there maybe an addition to the charge required. Reasoning: have a harder hitting round, out of a light, inexpensive, rugged rifle.

Any thoughts???

Re: Where to go for groundhogs???

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Posted by Tackleberry on August 08, 1998 at 00:31:01:

In Reply to: Where to go for groundhogs??? posted by SM on May 22, 1998 at 09:25:40:

WELCOME TO THE SPORT!! Here is a few idea that worked great for me and fello hunters.

Assuming you have already obtained you Outdoors Card and you FAC. The next suggestion is to join the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters. For $35.00 a year (membership fee) you are automatically enrolled in a two million dollar ($2,000,000) third party liability insurance policy. This is in effect when acctively hunting or fishing. Next encourage your hunting buddies to join so when you follow my next step they will be covered. Have a permission form typed up ready to present to the land owner for viewing. It is a genaric form for the landowner to fill out, starting with "I ......... give the listed below to hunt for the game listed below on .........(property)..... " . Following this, in the body of the form, include " I understand that all of the names listed below are members of the Ont. Fed. of Ang. & Hun.. I also understand that as a member of this Fed. they are insured with a $2 mill. third party liability policy. Then provide a section for the land owner's signature and date. ( I also include a phrase to the effect that this agreement is for a period of one year, or unless other wise indicated. Renewals consist of a phone call with an agreement that the "old" form is updated) Always use carbon paper and supply a copy to the landowner. Keep the original. Some Townships require written permission on you when hunting on anothers property in that Township. Research this ,the onus is on you. I also list the common type of game found on that area so they can just check off the appropriate ones. (don't pressure too hard for other game, I have hunted "chucks" at places that the owner or others hunt) Next allow an area for a description of the are you are allowed on.(I had one farmer leasing property al over the county some farms we could some we could not) For clarity, have a map provided (make copies, at least two, attach to both agreements)

I'm sure that's enough for now, if you are interested let me and I'll send you a copy.

WHERE ?? Farm land (pasture & curtain crops) chucks eat nothing but the best ... translates to cash crops and takes money out of farmers pocket. Thus you could be welcomed with open arms. Careful not to be paid, I believe a trappers licence would be needed.

Good Luck & Safe Hunting

Re: Waterfowl

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Posted by Kern on August 07, 1998 at 23:01:33:

In Reply to: Waterfowl posted by Nick on August 07, 1998 at 21:52:59:

Some of the feilds have been cut around here and it didnt take long before the geese moved in!!! There's all kinds of them around here. So what kind of gun are you thinkin about Nick???

Re: Hope you weren't in southern Ont.

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Posted by Tackleberry on August 07, 1998 at 22:59:53:

In Reply to: Re: Hope you weren't in southern Ont. posted by Fischer on May 08, 1998 at 15:20:51:

You have the right idea unfortunately your geography is a little off. Townships in Ontario have the ability to regulate the calibres used for hunting. The reasoning used is based on population. The area is reasonably set as a line across South to South Central Ontario. I can specifically recall for curtain, 400 hwy at 89 hwy traveling west to Lake Ontario. (more or less following 89 hwy. Iam not sure about the area to the east at this time. If I am correct the are south of this line is huntable with calibres .275 and smaller. This is not withstanding the use of shotguns.

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Tackleberry on August 07, 1998 at 22:38:10:

In Reply to: FAC Exam posted by Andy on August 04, 1998 at 08:55:08:

Andy, I'll try not to be long winded. I'm an Instructor/Examiner for the Canadian Firearms Safety Course. The other postings curtainly have the right idea,depending on your background the course is well worth your time and money. Yes the class work book supplies all the facts needed for the test procedures, however, invaluable information and experience is obtained when attending the class. Your qestions about law passage, yes you need to know/have a "working" knowledge of relivent Firearms Legislation. The course is designed as "entry level" or introductry class. It starts with the basics and introduces the student to firearms and action types "most commonly found in sporting firearms". As an example my last class had a gentleman in it who had to renew his lapsed FAC and decided to attend the class. His background was extensive hunting and competion handgun. His score on the written test 100% but due to some bad habits/complacency the practical/handling test 91%.

Test Format: Written 25 true/false 25 multiple answer Practical/Handling - identification of specified ammunition - handling of specified firearms (two 1 long gun, 1 handgun) while following instructor's direction (instructor's choice of firearm) - present knowledge and understanding of legal transportation requirements for restricted firearms

Waterfowl

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Posted by Nick on August 07, 1998 at 21:52:59:

Well I went a picked up my Migratory Waterfowl tag yesterday. Seeing all kinds of activity in my areas and can't wait for the season to start ! Will also be going to the upcoming hunting show and purchase a few things..... if the wife lets me perhaps a new gun for the season.... but I guess thats a BIG "IF" ! :) All the best

Nick

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by MIKE on August 07, 1998 at 05:44:43:

In Reply to: Re: FAC Exam posted by Andy on August 06, 1998 at 14:00:43:

If you have never handled a revolver or semi-automaitc handgun, I would strongly suggest you take the course, as part of the exam invloves showing the examiner the safe way of handling both types of firearms as well as rifles & shotguns. As for muzzle loaders...they are basically the same a long guns (rifles). I was an OHA qualified club level range officer & safety instructor, and believe me you do develop bad habits over the years and the course did wonders to refresh my memory. Any more questions, do not hesitate to ask.

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Andy on August 06, 1998 at 14:00:43:

In Reply to: Re: FAC Exam posted by Bob McNally on August 06, 1998 at 12:43:25:

My worries as well, mainly for the practical part of the exam. I.e. will I know what to do when handed a muzzle-loader or semi-auto handgun? But since the exam is on "firearms" safety, anything they ask is fair game. Am having second thoughts about not having taken the course....

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Bob McNally on August 06, 1998 at 12:43:25:

In Reply to: FAC Exam posted by Andy on August 04, 1998 at 08:55:08:

I intend to read the suggested book also as a "refresher" but my main concern is that with all info you have to know pertaining to handguns & my lack of experience with them that this will be the harder part for me.

Bob

Re: Hunting Retriever Clubs

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Posted by jim scott on August 06, 1998 at 08:54:06:

In Reply to: Hunting Retriever Clubs posted by Brian McCann on June 13, 1998 at 00:01:41:

I would like info on clubs in my area. Iowa

Pickering Rod and Gun Club?

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Posted by Frank on August 05, 1998 at 17:46:50:

Can anyone provide me with the Pickering Rod and Gun Club's address and phone number? When are they open for sighting in rifles? Thanks for any info.

Re: FAC Exam

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Posted by Mike on August 05, 1998 at 06:26:50:

In Reply to: FAC Exam posted by Andy on August 04, 1998 at 08:55:08:

I took the course & exam last year and it was pretty simple....nothing like what you are asking.....get the Canadian Firearms Safety Course Student's Handbook read over it and you should have no problem especially if you've handle firearms before. It it is 90% common sense. If you are not familiar with rifles & handguns, it would be worth your time to take the course. Hope this is of some help......Mike

FAC Exam

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Posted by Andy on August 04, 1998 at 08:55:08:

Have any of you yet taken the exam? I'm wondering how relevant to hunting and firearms safety the questions will be. I.e. should I be memorizing stuff like dates of law passage, muzzle foot energy of a .300 Weatherby, etc? Or is the exam really on gun handling and safety?

FIREARMS FOR SALE

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Posted by MIKE on August 02, 1998 at 09:25:55:

I have six handguns for sale: 2 - S&W 44 mag; 1 - S&W 357 mag; 1 - Browning 22 cal; 1 - Sterling Arms 380 cal; & 1 - Colt Series 80 .45 acp. If you are interested in any of these firearms, email me for further info. These are legally registered firearms and an FAC is required!!!!!

Re: FED UP II - Whose goin'??

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Posted by Bob McNally on August 02, 1998 at 03:06:04:

In Reply to: Re: FED UP II - Whose goin'?? posted by Hoyt on July 31, 1998 at 21:34:21:

Hope you win your battle to keep that hunting area open. It only makes it harder to find new places to go when they close an area. Also affects safety when more hunters end up being pushed into a smaller area as less areas are available to go to. Bob

Re: FED UP II - Whose goin'??

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Posted by Hoyt on July 31, 1998 at 21:34:21:

In Reply to: Re: FED UP II - Whose goin'?? posted by Bob McNally on July 30, 1998 at 04:21:11:

I sure would like to be there!! I did send my postcards from the Ontario Out of doors magazine to Ottawa protesting against this Insanity and also against the proposed new boating regs. Im also dealing with a group of individuals who are trying to ban hunting south of the 8th Conc. here in the Municipality of Clarington and we the hunters are winning!

Re: Read about it at these sites

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Posted by Bob McNally on July 31, 1998 at 01:52:14:

In Reply to: Read about it at these sites posted by Fischer on July 30, 1998 at 10:10:08:

Thanks for the links. Everyone should check them out. The Fed Up site also contains info on getting transportation to get here. Tell your friends...spread the word!

Bob

Read about it at these sites

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Posted by Fischer on July 30, 1998 at 10:10:08:

In Reply to: Re: FED UP II - Whose goin'?? posted by Kern on July 30, 1998 at 07:53:32:

It's a rally of law-abiding citizens protesting the new gun laws scheduled to go into effect Oct. 1. The rally is set for Sept. 22 at Parliament Hill. Check out the OFAH and FED UP II websites at:

http://www.ofah.org/rallynews.htm http://www.fedupcanada.org/

Re: FED UP II - Whose goin'??

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Posted by Kern on July 30, 1998 at 07:53:32:

In Reply to: FED UP II - Whose goin'?? posted by Fischer on July 29, 1998 at 16:07:03:

So what is this and where is it??? First time Ive heard of this...

Re: FED UP II - Whose goin'??

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Posted by Bob McNally on July 30, 1998 at 04:21:11:

In Reply to: FED UP II - Whose goin'?? posted by Fischer on July 29, 1998 at 16:07:03:

I was at the last one & I'll be at this one too! Luckily I live in Ottawa so I don't have to go too far. The feds went off the deep end as far as I'm concerned when they put "gun control" on the plate. And I intend to let them know it!!...again!

Bob

FED UP II - Whose goin'??

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Posted by Fischer on July 29, 1998 at 16:07:03:

Didn't go to the last one, and haven't hunted in years, but this is too much. My 15 yr. old just got his hunting licence and I hate the thought that in a few short years he won't have an opportunity to enjoy the outdoors like I have (at the rate things are going).

I'm going, and my boy is, too. Who else out there is going to stand up for their rights?!??!?!

Re: How to Adjust A Remingtom Trigger???

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Posted by Kern on July 29, 1998 at 08:09:54:

In Reply to: How to Adjust A Remingtom Trigger??? posted by Ron on July 20, 1998 at 09:44:39:

I have a Winchester 22 semi-auto that had a bad trigger. When you squeeze it, you were never sure if it was cocked or not because the pull was so hard. I got tired of it quick so removed the trigger assembly and filed down the notch on the hammer!! I did this until the pull was were I wanted it. Be careful to take off only a bit at a time because once its off you cant put it back. If your not sure about anything, just take it to a local gunsmith.

Re: anyone tried a release?

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Posted by Bob McNally on July 28, 1998 at 00:13:47:

In Reply to: anyone tried a release? posted by Steve Bond on July 23, 1998 at 15:41:00:

Hi Steve

Sorry to hear about your accident. I was wondering why I hadn't seen as many of your posts! Glad it was your wrist & not your neck! I use a "Fletcher Fletchunter concho style" release with a swivel grip & I enjoy it immensely. I tie a long cord to it that I loop over my neck & shoulders so that it is nearby but not going to drop it & I just tuck it in my pocket. I find a release narrowed my groupings considerably. As a safety precaution when drawing I push my finger on the backside of the trigger to ensure it doesn't go off by accident. There are versions out there with wrist straps that might take some pressure off your hand but wonder how your wrist would handle it. I find that here in Canada the selection of releases or any archery equipment is pretty limited. If you want a good amil order place with reasonable prices try BOWHUNTERS DISCOUNT WAREHOUSE in Pennslyvania. My release was about $35 US & I saw it up here selling for $74! Even with the exchange & duty it was cheaper to get it from the states. They now have a web site where you can order their catalog online at :

http://www.hunting.net/bwhform.html

Check out the rest of their website too. They sometimes have specials listed in their catalog. You'll also find an enormous selection of releases to choose from.

Here's the URL for the main page:

http://www.bowhunterswarehouse.com/

Hope your wrist is ready for the season & DON"T FORGET TO GET YOUR DOE TAG APPLICATION SENT IN!!! (If you haven't already! MNR extended the time limit till Monday Aug 10th.

See you... Bob I like the "swivel" feature of mine because it helps minimze string torque. The trigger is also fully adjustable even though I never had to change it from the factory setting.

Re: anyone tried a release?

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Posted by paul on July 26, 1998 at 11:22:52:

In Reply to: anyone tried a release? posted by Steve Bond on July 23, 1998 at 15:41:00:

i use a scott little mongoose for hunting.it's problem free.you can also adjust the trigger to your own liking.they go for about 80- 100 bucks.

anyone tried a release?

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Posted by Steve Bond on July 23, 1998 at 15:41:00:

Need some help and / or advice. Took a bad spill on my motorcycle in June and broke my left arm and wrist. The casts come off in a week, and I have to start physio. As I'm left handed, I'm preparing for the fact that I might have trouble pulling my bow this fall (PSE set at 65 lbs) with my tab. I want to start checking out releases and I'm wondering if anyone has tried them, what should I be looking for in a release, what to avoid, etc. I've shot with a tab for over 10 years, but this year, it might not be possible. I'd hate to miss the next provincial record because I messed up my release! Any suggestions? I want to start practicing as soon as I can pull the bow back.

anyone tried a release?

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Posted by Steve Bond on July 23, 1998 at 15:40:00:

Need some help and / or advice. Took a bad spiill on my motorcycle in June and broke my left arm and wrist. The casts come off in a week, and I have to start physio. As I'm left handed, I'm preparing for the fact that I might have trouble pulling my bow this fall (PSE set at 65 lbs) with my tab. I want to start checking out releases and I'm wondering if anyone has tried them, what should I be looking for in a release, what to avoid, etc. I've shot with a tab for over 10 years, but this year, it might not be possible. I'd hate to miss the next provincial record because I messed up my release! Any suggestions? I want to start practicing as soon as I can pull the bow back.

How to Adjust A Remingtom Trigger???

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Posted by Ron on July 20, 1998 at 09:44:39:

Hello to all,

Is there anyone who can advise me on how to adjust the trigger on my Remington M700 Sendero? I just want to reduce to trigger pull weight by about half. Iuse my rifle for BR. Thanks for all inputs.

Re:DeadLine for Doe tags Extended till Monday Aug 10th

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Posted by Bob McNally on July 18, 1998 at 02:22:25:

In Reply to: Re: New Whitetail Seasons==> DEADLINE NOT FAR AWAY<== posted by Bob McNally on July 18, 1998 at 02:13:01:

Well I took my advice & just checked out MNR's site. Apparently with the late printing this year of licences they've extended it 10 days.

Check it out at:

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/csb/news/jul17bnr98.html

Gotta like the easy access to info of these PC's!!

%^)

Bob

Re: New Whitetail Seasons==> DEADLINE NOT FAR AWAY<==

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Posted by Bob McNally on July 18, 1998 at 02:13:01:

In Reply to: Re: New Whitetail Seasons posted by Andy on July 15, 1998 at 11:42:37:

Yep! Deadlines still July 31st for the doe tags!

Surprised to see you guys here! Its been quiet here & I thought I'd drop in to leave a message about the deer licence deadline BUT I see you beat me to it!!

(I still have to get mine sent in...& buy the tag which I usually get at LeBarons here in Ottawa.) I understand that MNR is hoping to do away with the licencing vendors & do it all by phone...just don't know when.

In regards to the deer seasons...I'm not impressed in this area. (64A & B) Last year heard of the early bow season just before the normal Oct 15th opening. New one "last" year was Oct 1st. Too late to get in on it. Now after receiving the info package with the new opening dates for this year I see that its back to Oct 15th again???

Hope its a misprint but it looks like they changed their minds in this area. I'll have to phone MNR to be sure. Might even check on their web site... they usually post stuff like that there too.

Well catch you later... back to the fishing sites!! Bob

Re: July 31

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Posted by Andy on July 17, 1998 at 08:57:03:

In Reply to: July 31 posted by Hoyt on July 16, 1998 at 16:56:04:

We'll see if I miss the deadline yet again.... Thank you for the reminder.

July 31

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Posted by Hoyt on July 16, 1998 at 16:56:04:

Don't worry Andy we still have to the 31 of July, I'm always one of those last minute guys to and always pay that extra dollar to have them take my app. to Toronto.

Re: New Whitetail Seasons

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Posted by Andy on July 15, 1998 at 11:42:37:

In Reply to: Re: New Whitetail Seasons posted by Hoyt on July 14, 1998 at 21:15:47:

Hmmm.... I better rush home and check my mailbox. Totally forgot I have to get the application in. Is July 31 still the deadline for doe tags?

Re: New Whitetail Seasons

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Posted by Hoyt on July 14, 1998 at 21:15:47:

In Reply to: Re: New Whitetail Seasons posted by Andy on July 14, 1998 at 09:32:37:

Yup! 15 days earlier for bow here and now a 2 week shotgun! Yeah!!! Imformation came with my phone in antlerless imfo.

Re: New Whitetail Seasons

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Posted by Andy on July 14, 1998 at 09:32:37:

In Reply to: New Whitetail Seasons posted by Hoyt on July 08, 1998 at 22:18:15:

Huh? Haven't seen them yet. Can you fill us in?

New Whitetail Seasons

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Posted by Hoyt on July 08, 1998 at 22:18:15:

So What do you's think of the new season openings?

Gun For Sale

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Posted by Kern on June 23, 1998 at 22:21:54:

12Ga Winchester pump for sale, 30" full choke in good condition. make me an offer. Must have FAC. Also have a Humminbird Wide Eye portable dual beam with wide side, speed and temp options available. Used about 7 times. Still have the box and all manuals paid $380.00 asking 260.00 e-mail me if interested

Hunting Retriever Clubs

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Posted by Brian McCann on June 13, 1998 at 00:01:41:

If you are interested in joining a HUNTING Retriever Club or would like some info. on retrievers send me an e-mail.Presently there are 6 clubs in Ontario, Essex HRC(Windsor), Middlesex HRC(London), Luther Marsh HRC(Orangeville), Georgian Bay HRC(Barrie), Lake Ontario HRC(Port Perry), Near North HRC(Sudbary). If you would like info abuot the club closest to you I can e-mail that clubs Presidents name & number.

I am the President of the Georgian Bay club. We are based out of Tiny Marsh PWA just north of Elmvale. Our club trains there the 1st and 3rd Sunday of every month. For more info contact myself at bmccann@neptune.on.ca.

Re: Coyotes Rip family pet apart!

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Posted by Kern on June 11, 1998 at 09:54:17:

In Reply to: Re: Coyotes Rip family pet apart! posted by Hoyt on June 02, 1998 at 16:32:30:

I think land owners should have more power when it comes to dealing with people who willfully tresspass and cause trouble when confronted. I am aware of the existance of a tresspass law and landowner rights in ontario but all I know about it is that it is a very old. I was hopeing the MNR site may have it posted seeing how this is an issue that affects all fisherman and hunters but I couldnt find it. Do you hunt Kendal much Hoyt?? What kind of game do you encounter besides red necks and coyotes!!

3 1/2 inch 12ga Mag

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Posted by Kern on June 10, 1998 at 15:44:15:

For those of you who wanted one but didnt like the sloppy action of the Mossberg, or the price tag of an import, Remington have released the new 870 express in a 3 1/2 inch version ( list price $380.00 ) The rifled deer barrel is available for about $150.00 .....just in time for Fathers day :)

For Sale !!!

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Posted by Dave on June 08, 1998 at 17:39:16:

Beretta 686 Silver Sporting O/U 12g 28" barrels mint.cond.$1400.00

Browning BPS 12g $375.00 with rifle and turkey choke. good cond.

Horton Hunter Crossbow pkg. $450.00

Cannon Sport troll downrigger w/polymer boom, $160.00 w/extra`s

pls. send email for more info. !!!

Re: Coyotes Rip family pet apart!

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Posted by Hoyt on June 02, 1998 at 16:32:30:

In Reply to: Re: Coyotes Rip family pet apart! posted by Kern on June 02, 1998 at 14:51:51:

Hi Kern Yes something did happen there, the guy that lives just west of Kendal had a run in with a couple of redneck local coyote hunters, So now he's against all hunting and anything to do with hunting, You talked about all the No Tresspassing signs, Well you guessed it they were all posted by him going door to door more less begging the landowner for permisson to post his signs, This joker also went around with a petition. As the paper last said Don't like it move! Kendal Crown Land is open to Hunting!!!

Re: Coyotes Rip family pet apart!

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Posted by Kern on June 02, 1998 at 14:51:51:

In Reply to: Coyotes Rip family pet apart! posted by Hoyt on May 31, 1998 at 21:02:29:

I read an article in the Courtice paper about the locals not likeing the fact that Jo Blow can walk in there with a 270, 243, 22-250 ect. and just start popping off rounds. All of those rounds are great on varmits but tend to travel and the area around the Kendal crown land has quite a few homes and farms. Last I heard they were trying to make the area a shotgun only. Ive been around there on scouting trips and Ive never seen so many people united against hunting and hunters. Every post and tree had a NO HUNTING sign on it. Something must have happened to cause that!! Im sure they are aware what will happen if the coyote population is aloud to run out of control. If not, they will in a few years after a ban!!

Coyotes Rip family pet apart!

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Posted by Hoyt on May 31, 1998 at 21:02:29:

Recently there has been several articles in the Oshawa This Week newspaper about Kendal Crown Land wanting to stop hunting there and banning all hunting below the 8th conc. in all of Clarington. I for one say NO WAY!! We have a big coyote and coydog problem here, A fellow co worker just told me the other day of his problem coyotes on his property on the 3rd Conc. He's had several encounters with them latest one being finding the family dog torn to pieces only being able to identify him by his hind leg. Stop hunting below the 8th??? I DON"T THINK SO!!!!!!

GPS for sale

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Posted by Bob on May 29, 1998 at 10:50:00:

I have a MAGELLAN GPS 3000XL for sale. Comes complete with padded carrying case, lanyard, all manuals and I will include a copy of the Magellan instructional video tape with it. Have used it for both hunting and fishing and it is very fast on lockon and very dependable. Currently sells for $380 (+ taxes) at LeBaron's ... will sell for $250. This is still the current model they are selling.

Contact me via e-mail if you are interested.

Beaglers

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Posted by Larry Foreman on May 27, 1998 at 21:21:43:

I live in the central U.S. and own and hunt 10 Beagle hounds and would be interested in talking to any Beaglers in Canada.We run cottontail rabbits, swamp rabbits and an occasional jackrabbit.

Decoys Wanted

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Posted by Dave on May 23, 1998 at 22:00:20:

Looking for Mallard & Canada goose decoys, any size and in fair condition.

Where to go for groundhogs???

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Posted by SM on May 22, 1998 at 09:25:40:

Hi there. Im new to hunting, just starting out, and I would appreciate it if someone could tell me where to go to hunt groundhogs (farm??crown land??). If possible give the exact location. Thanx any info is appreciated. PS im in mississauga

Re: Hunting Regs Fall 98/Spring 99

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Posted by Bob McNally on May 22, 1998 at 03:40:47:

In Reply to: Hunting Regs Fall 98/Spring 99 posted by Kern on May 21, 1998 at 09:10:40:

Thanks Kern

I'm downloading it as I type this! Just in case some don't know where to look try this URL:

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/pubs/pubmenu.html

Bob

Hunting Regs Fall 98/Spring 99

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Posted by Kern on May 21, 1998 at 09:10:40:

The new regs are posted on the MNR site for down loading. After all the talk of a population explosion of geese, I noticed no changes were made to the bag limit or season dates!!

Re: Hope you weren't in southern Ont.

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Posted by the Sherriff on May 10, 1998 at 21:35:26:

In Reply to: Re: Hope you weren't in southern Ont. posted by Fischer on May 08, 1998 at 15:20:51:

30 cal is legal south of the French River! Controlled townships may have municipal bylaws restricting the usage of particular calibers.

Re: Hope you weren't in southern Ont.

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Posted by Fischer on May 08, 1998 at 15:20:51:

In Reply to: Re: First groundhog hunt... posted by BKO on May 05, 1998 at 12:44:14:

Last I heard, 30 cal was illegal for hunting south of the French River, unless that's changed...can't use over .280 cal.

.270's the limit, unless you've got an easy going CO who will let you away with lans diameter on a 7mm.

Drumming counts

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Posted by BKO on May 05, 1998 at 12:56:32:

Just wondering how the grouse are doing up there. I'm from Minnesota and the population of grouse here appears to be related to the population up there. As the population up there declines, the hawks migrate south and feed on our grouse. Last year was unbelievable for grouse and the 10 year cycle is supposed to peak this year. Respond if you have any observations to share.

Re: First groundhog hunt...

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Posted by BKO on May 05, 1998 at 12:44:14:

In Reply to: Re: First groundhog hunt... posted by hummm on May 04, 1998 at 23:01:35:

How bout a .22 LR or a ,22-250 for the varmints.

Re: One Gobbler down

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Posted by tferr on May 05, 1998 at 10:21:54:

In Reply to: Re: One Gobbler down posted by Bob McNally on May 04, 1998 at 01:38:08:

Thanks! This was my second bird I got one two years ago, but, struck out last year. I am hunting in 90A down in Haldimand-Norfolk I dont think I will bother getting another licence as I am calling for a friend of mine. Watch out for the ticks this year the woods around here are just crawling with them Good Luck in future hunts

Re: First groundhog hunt...

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Posted by hummm on May 04, 1998 at 23:01:35:

In Reply to: First groundhog hunt... posted by Pete on May 04, 1998 at 11:02:46:

kinda overkill no? hope you know where ur backstop is!

First groundhog hunt...

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Posted by Pete on May 04, 1998 at 11:02:46:

Finally went on my very first groundhog hunt this past weekend and it was quite interesting. I was also surprised to find out that the 30cal Nosler bal. tips 125gr was not as devistating on the ground hogs as my friends 270 90grHP. With the Noslers they just went through with some guts spilled but with the 270 HP, it nearly torn them in half. Most of are targets were out to 200-300yards. I guess its time to switch to HP's. Maybe I'll try out the Speer 168 Match HP. Anyone else out there been hunting groundhog lately?

Re: One Gobbler down

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Posted by Bob McNally on May 04, 1998 at 01:38:08:

In Reply to: Re: One Gobbler down posted by tferr on May 02, 1998 at 17:45:25:

Hi tferr(?)

Congratulations! Thats a bird more than I have! What area are you hunting in? Is this your first bird? I got my first (& only) about 4 seasons ago now but nothing since. Not sure if I can get out again this year or not. I guess you're probably aware of the new "regs" now that you can go get a second tag if you want! Also season is extended till May 31!!

Bob

Re: One Gobbler down

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Posted by tferr on May 02, 1998 at 17:45:25:

In Reply to: turkey's posted by Kern on April 28, 1998 at 22:16:36:

Haven't met any of you guys yet but just wanted to take advantage of one of the few chances I get to brag... Bagged a small jake bird this morning . 16.5 pounds 4and quarter inch beard and knubbins for spurs .... But he looked much bigger when my heart was going through my chest hehe Well good luck in the rest of the hunt. tferr

Re: turkey's & now fishing

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Posted by Bob McNally on May 01, 1998 at 03:20:30:

In Reply to: Re: turkey's posted by Kern on April 30, 1998 at 07:43:35:

Hi Kern

I was possibly thinking of taking my 9yr old son to the Ganny next week but due to few fish have had second thoughts. Maybe the Wilmot might be an idea. How much further is it from Port Hope? 1/2 hr? or more? I'll have to pull out a map. Are there many areas that have access to the Creek? At the Ganny 2 areas I used to go I found were posted this year. If the water warms up they might start biting better.

Bob

Re: turkey's

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Posted by Kern on April 30, 1998 at 07:43:35:

In Reply to: Re: turkey's posted by Bob McNally on April 29, 1998 at 00:26:29:

Hey Bob, At least you got out!! I decided to spend my time fishing. Spent the opener and sat morning on the ganny then mon tue and wed on the Wilmot. The Ganny was very slow, the fish werent hitting good at all and i didnt see too many either. The Wilmot on the other hand had more fish but nothing I threw at them would entice a solid strike... lost a few, non landed. If your gonna be in the area again check out the cn bridge at wilmot. Lots of fish.

Re: turkey's

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Posted by Bob McNally on April 29, 1998 at 00:26:29:

In Reply to: turkey's posted by Kern on April 28, 1998 at 22:16:36:

Hi Kern

Nope. Just got back tonight. Didn't even see a bird...again. Some others I know that hunt nearby on land that I would die for see lots each year. This year though...one seen & no tracks found. Wish I knew where the birds went. Fished the "ganny" too. Another lost cause! Not many fish left & those still there weren't eager to bite. Fished Monday from 2 pm till dark & Tues from 5:30am till 2pm...NO bites! I won't count the one I foul hooked with my fly rod. Not a good year so far!

Well things are looking up...next Monday I'm going to drop the canoe in the water & try for a few brookies. The way my luck is going I bet the black flies will be out already.

Did you get out for birds at all?

Bob

turkey's

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Posted by Kern on April 28, 1998 at 22:16:36:

So has anyone bagged one or what????

goose cam 98

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Posted by Nick on April 27, 1998 at 19:57:23:

For those of you who are interested in geese and their nesting habbits, I located a great site called Goose Cam 98. It is rather interesting to watch the goose on her eggs at almost real time !! The URL is http://www.jamesmartin.com/goose/index.htm Check it out

Nick

S&W Model 46 FOR SALE!

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Posted by Fischer on April 22, 1998 at 09:33:43:

22. cal. Same as Model 41, but has nylon grips and dull finish. 7 3/8" bbl. $275 or open to reasonable offers. Please e-mail me. FAC REQUIRED!

Re: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 5 days to go!!

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Posted by Bob McNally on April 22, 1998 at 02:15:18:

In Reply to: Re: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!! posted by Steve Bond on April 20, 1998 at 20:53:25:

Hi Steve

You gotta like those perks! Hope you have a great hunt & let us know how you make out. I just read "Big" Jims Just Fishing there tonight and saw your article on "tackle boxes". I guess you write for more than just Big Buck magazine!

See you... Bob

Re: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!!

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Posted by Steve Bond on April 20, 1998 at 20:53:25:

In Reply to: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!! posted by Bob McNally on April 20, 1998 at 02:00:19:

Couldn't believe it! On my way to Manchester last Thursday, a male gobbler flew in front of my truck almost at the intersection of Hwy 7A and 12. I've never seen turkeys around the area and thought the closest birds were up near Sunderland. I'm definitely getting out, but not until probably Wednesday or Thursday of the first week. A guy I did a story on for Big Buck Magazine invited me to go with him in Northumberland County. He gets his bird every year and says there's lots where he has permission. I don't make much money writing, but the perks sure are good! Everyone have a safe and successful hunt.

Re: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!!

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Posted by Bob McNally on April 20, 1998 at 13:18:35:

In Reply to: Re: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!! posted by Kern on April 20, 1998 at 09:00:14:

Hi Kern

No I don't think it gets any better! Definitely not much time for sleeping! I work Sundays till 11pm. I load up, have a shower & leave Ottawa about 1:00am. I get there just in time to head into the woods & try to find a likely area for birds. By noon its time to pack up & head out to go dip the rod. Might even try G Loomis Conservation area for specks or browns. Sometimes I like to just drive a bit in the pm to see if I can spot birds. Always the possibility of stopping to try & get permission to hunt in a likely area.

If you get down to scout it out at all before the hunt I'd appreciate a post as to if you've seen any birds. Nice to know if there's any in the area!

See you... Bob

Re: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!!

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Posted by Kern on April 20, 1998 at 09:00:14:

In Reply to: Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!! posted by Bob McNally on April 20, 1998 at 02:00:19:

Hunting in the morning, fishing in the afternoon...does life get any better??? I havent made up my mind yet. I know time is running out but i havent located any birds yet. I plan to take a trip out to Brighton to have a look around and ill make a decision based on what i see there.

Who's Going Turkey Hunting- Only 7 days to go!!

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Posted by Bob McNally on April 20, 1998 at 02:00:19:

Just curious how many of you are going to get out next week to try & sweet talk some Gobbler?? I'm planning on getting out next Mon, Tues & Wed near Trenton area. Since hunting ends at noon I'll be heading for the "Ganny" each afternoon to try for those steelhead! Where are you going????...............

Have a safe hunt & shoot straight! Bob

Re: waterfowl season?

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Posted by Bob McNally on April 19, 1998 at 04:53:19:

In Reply to: waterfowl season? posted by Nick on April 19, 1998 at 03:57:06:

Hi Nick

Depends on where you are. Southern zone is probably still September 25th & Central zone is usually on the 20th. (ie Renfrew area) Best check the regs to be sure. If you're talking geese I've heard that the previous early season might start even earlier this year depending on the region.

See you... Bob

waterfowl season?

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Posted by Nick on April 19, 1998 at 03:57:06:

Yes I know it is so soon but I need to book my vacation FAR in advance. Can anyone tell me when the season opens or is it the same as last year around the 25th of September ?

Re: Mallards

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Posted by Kern on April 17, 1998 at 07:58:22:

In Reply to: Re: Mallards posted by Nick Sparkes on April 16, 1998 at 16:03:11:

Hey Nick, its been a while!!! Ya those orange bands are so you can beed them when the sun goes down :)

Re: Mallards

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Posted by Hoyt on April 16, 1998 at 16:35:34:

In Reply to: Re: Mallards posted by Nick Sparkes on April 16, 1998 at 16:03:11:

Last Fall was the best shoot Ive had since 1989, maybe this Fall will be even better! I thought I seen a couple of shovelers today.

Re: Mallards

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Posted by Nick Sparkes on April 16, 1998 at 16:03:11:

In Reply to: Mallards posted by Kern on April 13, 1998 at 21:18:48:

Kern,

I have been seeing a lot of birds up in the Peterborough area as well, also on my way to work down the 115 hwy. in all of the ponds. They also appear to be a bit larger than last year as well. Also see all kinds of geese and one that I have seen twice with a nice big orange neck band. All the best Nick

Re: Groundhog load

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Posted by m merson on April 13, 1998 at 21:52:35:

In Reply to: Re: Groundhog load posted by Narwhale on February 23, 1998 at 14:52:28:

15 - 20 bucks for bullets somebody is ripping you off the most iv ever paid is maybe 10 no more.they were good bullets to. i reload mine so the cost is pretty low anyway.the cheapest bullets iv bought were 3.50 a box but they were fmj's no good on a groundhog but they were very accurate . there is no need to pay that much money for 223 bullets unless your gun will just flat out not shoot anything else accurately.if my gun would only shoot the expensive stuff i think i would send it away to be fixed or put it in the closet .i would be embaressed to shoot it and the 15-20 dollar bullets will not kill them any deader than the 10 dollar bullets

Mallards

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Posted by Kern on April 13, 1998 at 21:18:48:

seems every feild with a puddle, every creak and pond seems to be holding a few mallards. Has any else noticed more of them around then normal???

Re: scouting goblers

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Posted by Kern on April 11, 1998 at 15:22:52:

In Reply to: Re: scouting goblers posted by Bob McNally on April 09, 1998 at 02:13:29:

Thanks for the tip Bob, Hopefully Ill find somewhere closer for the opener.

Re: scouting goblers

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Posted by Bob McNally on April 09, 1998 at 02:13:29:

In Reply to: Re: scouting goblers posted by Kern on April 06, 1998 at 21:52:30:

Hi Kern

I've hunted the Wildlife area near Brighton & during the week days its pretty quiet. Not sure how many birds are in the area though now. It was very good 2 years ago but not since then.

Bob

Re: scouting goblers

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Posted by Kern on April 06, 1998 at 21:52:30:

In Reply to: Re: scouting goblers posted by Bob McNally on April 06, 1998 at 21:17:12:

Hi Bob, This will be my first year hunting turkey. I live just east of Oshawa and have been doing my scouting in an easterly direction from there. Ive found some promissing looking terrain but havent located birds yet. The MNR guys at the seminar I took jokingly warned us that the public area's are full of people who didnt prepare for the hunt ie scouting and getting to know some land owners..I dont think those public area's will be the place to be on the opener.

Re: scouting goblers

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Posted by Bob McNally on April 06, 1998 at 21:17:12:

In Reply to: scouting goblers posted by Kern on April 06, 1998 at 08:12:16:

Hi Kern

I live in Ottawa & hunt near Trenton so scouting is sorta out of the question unfortunately. I did call 3 landowners tonight whose property I hunt on and once again got permission from two of them. The 3rd wasn't home so I'll have to try again. The first 2 haven't seen a bird this year! Not too encouraging! Do you have any problem getting permission around your area? Where are you near? I might even give the Picton area a try but not sure if there's any "public" areas to hunt there or if it's all private. I know there's a conservation area there but I have to find out the name of it & see if they allow hunting. Where have you hunted past years?

Make sure you get permission!!

See you.. Bob

scouting goblers

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Posted by Kern on April 06, 1998 at 08:12:16:

Do you guys have a spot for turkey yet or are you still scouting??? Im still looking, been creepin around alot of back roads in the area and so far just seen alot of no trespassin signs!! Will have to start steppin up the search cause there's only 3 weeks left to go.

Re: Beagles

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Posted by Larry on April 03, 1998 at 11:15:15:

In Reply to: Beagles posted by David on February 02, 1998 at 19:32:00:

I am a Beagler from Oklahoma. I have 10 Beagles that I hunt and keep all time. I field trial on a very limited basis in ARHA. Always like to hear from Beaglers.

Today Show singles out deer hunters as contributing to shootings in Arkansas

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Posted by Boone on April 02, 1998 at 21:58:17:

I don't normally care for the Buckmasters group in general. I don't like their scoring system (why re-invent the wheel?), and I don't care for their magazine much either. However, I came across a stand they took recently and have to applaud them. The gist of the matter is that on March 25, . Katie Couric, host of NBC’s Today Show, and Auburn Sociology Professor, Thomas Petee (obviously some city dwelling suit who knows nothing about hunting) , wasted little time in pointing the finger of blame at deer hunters and hunting, after the tragic shooting deaths in Jonesboro, Arkansas. Check out http://www.buckmasters.com/new_articles/today.html to get the whole story and see Buckmasters response. I've drafted my own letter to NBC and urge other hunters to do so. Don't get emotional and irate, just state the facts, much like Buckmasters letter does. Even though I'm in Canada and we're suffering through another bout of illogical, ill concieved firearms legislation, NBC does advertise here and our opinion should count for something.

Saskatchewan Disgrace

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Posted by Dave Brown on March 31, 1998 at 22:05:42:

To Whom It May Concern:

The "adventure" described herein took place October 5 -10 1997 in the Hudson Bay, Saskatchewan. The "outfitter was Tom Plante of Fir River Holdings. The following correspondence falls into the "I Thought You Should Know Category". Those persons named here are a disgrace to all outfitters/guides. They took the trip of a lifetime and turned it into a disgusting experience. If this had occurred in the USA the complaint would be handled in court. As it is, my only resource amounts to this and many other letters. I also plan to attend outdoor shows and distribute this evaluation.

To preface my remarks please consider that I had prepared and dreamed of such a trip for many years. Financial and time constraints had delayed those plans until last fall. Sometime ago I began researching different options as to outfitters and locations offering trophy whitetail deer hunting. I was introduced to Fir River Holdings early in 1997 when Tom Plante and Glenn Schultz came to Pennsylvania. During that visit we discussed a muzzleloader hunt for deer and bear. The promises and conditions presented convinced me to go to Hudson Bay for the trip of a lifetime.

I was assured that I would be able to hunt for both species in areas where stands were regularly monitored to determine the quality and number of animals visiting the fields and bait stations. In reality, no scouting had been done and there were no bear stands at all. I was assigned to eight(8) different deer stands in five(5) days. The hay at all but one of these stands had not been touched by a deer of ANY size. Most had been in place less then a week. In fact, I helped the guide erect the eighth one the morning of October 10.

With respect to my effort it should be noted that I hunted 82% of the daylight hours available. I have been a professional wildlife manager for 32.5 years, and know that mature whitetail deer do not respond well to anything new. Even with this in mind I went where I was told.

Further complicating the situation was my guide assignment. He arrived in Hudson Bay the same day that I did--he did not know where the stands were located, nor did he hunt or really approve of killing deer. Marty was a good companion but that does not qualify him as a guide. He may or may not have been licensed since he lived in Prince Albert.

The accommodations (meals and lodging) were also poorly organized. Tom first told me I would be taking my meals in town but that did not happen. For all but one breakfast I fixed toast and coffee at camp. I made all my own lunches. Evening meals with as many as six(6) guests were served at camp after being prepared elsewhere. Following dinner EVERYONE left --- leaving dirty dishes, pots, pans, and cleanup for me. The lodging itself was adequate, but the camp was filthy. The food counter, beds and window sills were littered with dead and dying flies. The floor was covered with mud. It got worse every day.

Minuses can outnumber pluses only so long before a correction is in order. When I was assigned another new stand for Friday morning I knew my request for a new approach were being ignored. Not knowing what else to do I asked to leave--three(3) days early. There were no questions asked, no unpleasant words, explanation, or excuses--in fact, there was no discussion at all. About 11:00 a.m. on Friday Tom took my plane tickets to the travel agency. I never saw or heard from him again. About 9:00 p.m. the same evening Marty called and said we were going to Saskatoon right then. We arrived there about 1:00 am Saturday morning. This forced me to rent a motel for two(2) nights at $50.00 per night because my return flight was scheduled for Sunday at 7:00 a.m. The rescheduling was an additional $75.00.

Conversations during the visit and the inquiries upon arriving home revealed additional disturbing information. It seems that Tom Plante was directly involved in the death of another person, in addition he was recently hospitalized (August 1997) for substance abuse and is a self-confessed alcoholic. He often brags about beating up LAW OFFICERS (i.e. RCMP) and anyone else who dares cross him. Plante constantly berated other outfitters and implied that I better not talk to any of them. Considering his character I am glad I did not take the threat lightly.

It seems that every phase of the operation was misrepresented in some way. For example, Mr. Plante is himself not a licensed outfitter--he was using license #F2016 which belongs to Glenn Schultz. It is my guess that this correspondence will do little to change that. I honestly could not have been more disappointed as I watched my dream become a nightmare. Hopefully I can see to it that anyone planning such a trip can avoid these people and anyone associated with them.

Sincerely,

David W. Brown RD#4 Box 200 Westfield, Pa 16950 (814) 326-4553

P.S. I am willing to discuss this situation further. Feel free to contact me at any time.

Saskatchewan Disgrace

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Posted by Dave Brown on March 31, 1998 at 22:04:04:

In Reply to: 1998 S.E. Saskatchewan Goose and Duck Hunts posted by Peter on October 22, 1997 at 19:04:45:

To Whom It May Concern:

The "adventure" described herein took place October 5 -10 1997 in the Hudson Bay, Saskatchewan. The "outfitter was Tom Plante of Fir River Holdings. The following correspondence falls into the "I Thought You Should Know Category". Those persons named here are a disgrace to all outfitters/guides. They took the trip of a lifetime and turned it into a disgusting experience. If this had occurred in the USA the complaint would be handled in court. As it is, my only resource amounts to this and many other letters. I also plan to attend outdoor shows and distribute this evaluation.

To preface my remarks please consider that I had prepared and dreamed of such a trip for many years. Financial and time constraints had delayed those plans until last fall. Sometime ago I began researching different options as to outfitters and locations offering trophy whitetail deer hunting. I was introduced to Fir River Holdings early in 1997 when Tom Plante and Glenn Schultz came to Pennsylvania. During that visit we discussed a muzzleloader hunt for deer and bear. The promises and conditions presented convinced me to go to Hudson Bay for the trip of a lifetime.

I was assured that I would be able to hunt for both species in areas where stands were regularly monitored to determine the quality and number of animals visiting the fields and bait stations. In reality, no scouting had been done and there were no bear stands at all. I was assigned to eight(8) different deer stands in five(5) days. The hay at all but one of these stands had not been touched by a deer of ANY size. Most had been in place less then a week. In fact, I helped the guide erect the eighth one the morning of October 10.

With respect to my effort it should be noted that I hunted 82% of the daylight hours available. I have been a professional wildlife manager for 32.5 years, and know that mature whitetail deer do not respond well to anything new. Even with this in mind I went where I was told.

Further complicating the situation was my guide assignment. He arrived in Hudson Bay the same day that I did--he did not know where the stands were located, nor did he hunt or really approve of killing deer. Marty was a good companion but that does not qualify him as a guide. He may or may not have been licensed since he lived in Prince Albert.

The accommodations (meals and lodging) were also poorly organized. Tom first told me I would be taking my meals in town but that did not happen. For all but one breakfast I fixed toast and coffee at camp. I made all my own lunches. Evening meals with as many as six(6) guests were served at camp after being prepared elsewhere. Following dinner EVERYONE left --- leaving dirty dishes, pots, pans, and cleanup for me. The lodging itself was adequate, but the camp was filthy. The food counter, beds and window sills were littered with dead and dying flies. The floor was covered with mud. It got worse every day.

Minuses can outnumber pluses only so long before a correction is in order. When I was assigned another new stand for Friday morning I knew my request for a new approach were being ignored. Not knowing what else to do I asked to leave--three(3) days early. There were no questions asked, no unpleasant words, explanation, or excuses--in fact, there was no discussion at all. About 11:00 a.m. on Friday Tom took my plane tickets to the travel agency. I never saw or heard from him again. About 9:00 p.m. the same evening Marty called and said we were going to Saskatoon right then. We arrived there about 1:00 am Saturday morning. This forced me to rent a motel for two(2) nights at $50.00 per night because my return flight was scheduled for Sunday at 7:00 a.m. The rescheduling was an additional $75.00.

Conversations during the visit and the inquiries upon arriving home revealed additional disturbing information. It seems that Tom Plante was directly involved in the death of another person, in addition he was recently hospitalized (August 1997) for substance abuse and is a self-confessed alcoholic. He often brags about beating up LAW OFFICERS (i.e. RCMP) and anyone else who dares cross him. Plante constantly berated other outfitters and implied that I better not talk to any of them. Considering his character I am glad I did not take the threat lightly.

It seems that every phase of the operation was misrepresented in some way. For example, Mr. Plante is himself not a licensed outfitter--he was using license #F2016 which belongs to Glenn Schultz. It is my guess that this correspondence will do little to change that. I honestly could not have been more disappointed as I watched my dream become a nightmare. Hopefully I can see to it that anyone planning such a trip can avoid these people and anyone associated with them.

Sincerely,

David W. Brown RD#4 Box 200 Westfield, Pa 16950 (814) 326-4553

P.S. I am willing to discuss this situation further. Feel free to contact me at any time.

Magellan GPS ColourTRAK

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Posted by Frank on March 31, 1998 at 20:11:39:

I am interested in purchasing a GPS unit this summer. Magellan has come out with a coloured 12 parallel channel GPS receiver. Has anyone out there used this unit? I would like to get anyone's opinion about this new unit.

Re: Any gophers yet???

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Posted by Kern on March 30, 1998 at 08:36:53:

In Reply to: Any gophers yet??? posted by NARWHALE on March 27, 1998 at 15:34:34:

Have started spottin alot of the little critters on the road side...all victims of radial trama :)

SHEDS

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Posted by paul on March 29, 1998 at 20:05:41:

found 4 sheds so far.three with 4points,and one nice 6 pointer.three of the 4 point sheds were found within 30 ft of each other.one 4 pointer has a main beam of only 9 inches.small eh?my 6 point shed was scored at 62.25 inches,the g3,and g4 are almost 9 in. to bad the g2was only 3 inches,or it would have been really large.

Re: SCOBA Big Buck Day

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Posted by Steve Bond on March 29, 1998 at 19:36:47:

In Reply to: Re: SCOBA Big Buck Day posted by Bob McNally on March 29, 1998 at 02:23:13:

Hi Bob Thanks for the comments on the magazine. I consider it an honor to write for Big Buck and an added bonus is that I get to meet a lot of enthusiastic deer hunters. Wish the Federal Liberals could drop in and see that the people they are inconveniencing most with their ridiculous firearms legislation are the ones least likely to abuse firearms. But, that's another topic. Rick Poulin wasn't at the show and I heard that he had other business committments to take care of. There were enough FROW scorers to go around, however and there were over 80 heads entered. I think because there was no show at Grand Valley this year, a lot of hunters from Toronto and points west came to Bowmanville. I don't think there are any plans for Big Buck to go online, although the distribution company has a site that usually features the cover of the current issue. I think Garry has his hands full putting out a quarterly magazine. He is literally buried in material and it's beginning to get more widely known in the US. Circulation is increasing and that is good news.

Re: Rick Poulin

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 29, 1998 at 02:28:47:

In Reply to: Re: Rick Poulin posted by Boone on March 28, 1998 at 20:57:30:

Thanks Boone for the reply. Wish I could have been there as Steve pointed out I guess there were some nice deer brought in!

Bob

Re: SCOBA Big Buck Day

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 29, 1998 at 02:23:13:

In Reply to: SCOBA Big Buck Day posted by Steve Bond on March 28, 1998 at 20:52:53:

Hi Steve

Wish I could have gone but had to work today. Also live in Ottawa so its a bit of a drive. Was Rick Poulin there? That Big Buck Magazine is real fine mag. Are there any thoughts of them putting it online??? (hint-hint!)

Bob

Re: Rick Poulin

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Posted by Boone on March 28, 1998 at 20:57:30:

In Reply to: Re: Remains of Deer posted by Bob McNally on March 28, 1998 at 02:55:10:

Rick wasn't at the show today. I talked to him last week and he said he wasn't able to make it this year. Jack Leggo and Hoss were there along with several other FROW guys. Over 80 entries and all in all a great day.

Re: Where to look?

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Posted by Steve Bond on March 28, 1998 at 20:55:40:

In Reply to: Re: Where to look? posted by Andy on March 27, 1998 at 11:42:39:

I found my biggest shed ever in the Rouge Valley just east of Twin Rivers Road about three years ago. Scored 67 4/8 and was a beautiful, even five point. Brow tines were over 8 inches. Assuming minimal deductions, thats a 150 inch deer.

SCOBA Big Buck Day

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Posted by Steve Bond on March 28, 1998 at 20:52:53:

Until today, I didn't know this board existed. Thanks to Andy for letting me know. Just got back from SCOBA's Big Buck Day and there were three genuine Boone & Crockett deer from Ontario entered. A 172 4/8 from the Bruce peninsula, a 176 3/8 from Lake Township and a 199 3/8 giant non-typical from the Picton area. They had over 80 entries in total and it was just a grand day. As the Ontario correspondent for Big Buck magazine, it's a pleasure to cover these events and meet some great people. Now, let's look forward to turkey season!

Re: Remains of Deer

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 28, 1998 at 02:55:10:

In Reply to: Re: Remains of Deer posted by Hoyt on March 27, 1998 at 09:12:01:

Hoyt

While at the show if you see a booth set up for F.R.O.W. (Federation for the Recognitian of Ontario Wildlife) ...they might be there to maesure deer racks for whoever brings them in ask for a guy by the name of Rick Poulin (he's from Ottawa here). Say "Hi!" to him for me. He's a bowhunting friend of mine. He might have some nice sheds to show you if he takes them. Hope you enjoy the show!

Bob

Re: Remains of Deer

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Posted by Narwhale on March 27, 1998 at 15:40:16:

In Reply to: Re: Remains of Deer posted by Hoyt on March 27, 1998 at 09:12:01:

Could it have been a 'possum ... minus its long tail??

It's a long shot, but a possibility.

Any gophers yet???

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Posted by NARWHALE on March 27, 1998 at 15:34:34:

Have a new weapon for gophers ... '92 Toyota Corolla

Missed my first one today at lunch, it was jaywalking on Middlefield @ Finch. Ran the little SOB over, but he tumbled a few times and up and staggered way.

Gophers 1 vs NARWHALE 0 (hopefully the odds will change over this weekend).

Anybody else seen any gophers out now that the weather has turned warmer (any that can be hunted in a more conventional way at least). ??????

Re: Where to look?

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Posted by Andy on March 27, 1998 at 11:42:39:

In Reply to: Where to look? posted by Andy on March 24, 1998 at 08:20:45:

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. Looks like I will be looking everywhere. The valley has lots of deer, so unless they drop sheds elsewhere, they should be there for the finding. I'll post if I am successful.

Re: Remains of Deer

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Posted by Hoyt on March 27, 1998 at 09:12:01:

In Reply to: Re: Remains of Deer posted by Bob McNally on March 26, 1998 at 04:58:49:

I REALLY don't know what this animal is. I'm going to the S.C.O.B.A. Big buck show tomorrow at the Bomanville arena ,I'm going to ask around there.

Re: Remains of Deer

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Posted by Kern on March 26, 1998 at 09:23:06:

In Reply to: Remains of Deer posted by Hoyt on March 25, 1998 at 11:15:22:

Sounds like a cat probably a Bob cat if it was really big, lynx are smaller and i think are more likely to be found in warmer climates. Have you reported it to the ministry??? Did you see any tags on the ears??

Re: Remains of Deer

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 26, 1998 at 04:58:49:

In Reply to: Remains of Deer posted by Hoyt on March 25, 1998 at 11:15:22:

Hi Hoyt

Wow, 6 deer found dead is quite a few to find in one year! With that many found dead there must be a pretty good population of them around. Do you think the dead animal you found could have been a small lynx or bobcat? (Both I believe have short tails) Did it have tufts on the tip of the ears? What colour was the hide? Lynx are not found too often in Ontario anymore & not too sure if bobcat are in Ontario but I think I heard somewhere that there are a few. Anyone else know?

Bob

Re: sex (Darn...Not what I thought!! :-)

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Posted by bryan on March 25, 1998 at 23:01:10:

In Reply to: Re: sex (Darn...Not what I thought!! :-) posted by Bob McNally on March 25, 1998 at 01:34:09:

with good camo,,or a deer suit,,,,,sneak up and look between there legs,,,,you cant tell other then by size ,,,,and even then you cant,,also as doe's do grow horns enen that method cant be relied upon.,....this why its not a buck tag but an antlered deer tag,,,the biggest doe i her of was taking by friend of family and was 200 plus dressed and had small spikes....anyone else have a horned doe story

Remains of Deer

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Posted by Hoyt on March 25, 1998 at 11:15:22:

In Reply to: Re: Where to look? posted by Bob McNally on March 25, 1998 at 01:26:45:

Bob I found 6 different deer last winter killed by coyotes or dogs, I know what you mean when you say hair! Nothing but hair and the odd bone! Also this morning I was out on a wood's walk and come across a kill ,This animal I found I have NEVER seen one before! I have no idea what it is. Twice as big as a house cat with a similar coat as a wild cat, it looked to have a short tail unless it was ate off it was hard to tell, also had a good set of claws on all 4 feet, little ears and a flat face similar to a pig! It was not a fisher or a marten. ????

Re: sex (Darn...Not what I thought!! :-)

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 25, 1998 at 01:34:09:

In Reply to: sex posted by paul on March 24, 1998 at 21:46:14:

Its a bit hard to tell but I look for the round spots on their head where the antlers fell off. It helps to have some binoculars & if they're moving along pretty good then its hard to spot. I guess if you can try and get a glimpse between the back legs you might be able to tell but on that note I think I'd better leave this subject alone!!!

%^)

Bob

Re: Where to look?

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 25, 1998 at 01:26:45:

In Reply to: Where to look? posted by Andy on March 24, 1998 at 08:20:45:

Hi Andy

Thats a good question because you always just seem to stumble on them when you least expect it. I've found one hanging from a branch 2 feet off the ground in deep woods during deer season, a complete set in the wide open in a field near an apple orchard when Turkey hunting in the spring (also a small single while turkey hunting in the woods), another complete set (one side chewed) around duck ponds/cedars (found one then searched the area for 20 min till I found the other 30ft away), my best single (six point one side) in a field in plain view. Another set I found had a deer attached during bow season. One side was only hanging by the skin & after cutting the skull to get them I could tell it had probably been hit by a car and made its way back about a mile from the road before going down. Interesting part was how fast the coyotes cleaned up the remains. When I found it the complete skeleton and hide was there. One week later there was no trace except for the hair on the ground!

I would suggest to possibly try areas where deer are known to winter. When winters are mild I tend to think the deer are spread out over a larger area cause they don't have to yard up the same so its harder to narrow down. The suggestion regarding fences is also a good idea cause when the antlers start to come loose they can drop them when they jump a fence or try to go under a fence. In spring before the snow melts when you can see the trails easily is a good way to tell where the deer have spent the winter travelling. I think the best time to look is just when the majority of snow is gone and before the new growth starts up. (ie: during Turkey season & before the bugs start!) I've been lucky I guess cause I've never really gone out specifically looking for them but when I go out for whatever my eyes are always "peeled" for them!

Have any of you ever checked out this site?? (North American Shed Hunters Club):

http://www.shedantlers.org/

If you get out for them...Good Luck!!!

Bob

Re: Where to look?

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Posted by Hoyt on March 24, 1998 at 22:26:14:

In Reply to: Where to look? posted by Andy on March 24, 1998 at 08:20:45:

Hi Andy,honestly ive never had much luck either And I do get out and look! Also I to think cedars and thickets would be good places to look these are there bedrooms,I like to get on there trails in the snow and follow to see where there going and hopefully find a shed. But you know what they say Food sources are the best places to find sheds, But I don't really understand that because they are mostly browseing right now. A friend of mine has box's full of sheds, Only because he's at it all the time! This guy is a DIEHARD deer hunter! Fence crossings they say are good places to look to, I once seen in a magazine where this guy collected sheds by setting up 3 fence post's in a triangle then stretching farm fence around the posts and placeing food in the center so the bucks would come and eat in the winter and rub there antlers on the fence and they would drop off. LONG LIVE THE WHITETAIL!!!!!

sex

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Posted by paul on March 24, 1998 at 21:46:14:

is there a way of telling the difference between a buck and a doe after shedding head gear,beside's size.

Re: Where to look?

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Posted by paul on March 24, 1998 at 21:19:33:

In Reply to: Where to look? posted by Andy on March 24, 1998 at 08:20:45:

andy,i found only one shed so far,so i'm probaly not qualified to give advice.i found mine out in the open,on top of a ridge over looking a ravine.my friend tells me he finds 90% of his out in the open.good luck

Where to look?

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Posted by Andy on March 24, 1998 at 08:20:45:

In Reply to: big buck posted by paul on March 14, 1998 at 19:14:58:

All this talk of finding sheds has whetted my appetite, so... Where do you people look for sheds? I.e. is certain habitat better than another? My gut feeling would be to look in cedar and other thickets, but maybe more open areas are better? I thought I'd poke around the Rouge Valley on the weekend, so am hoping someone can suggest what sort of cover I should be combing.

Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away!

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Posted by paul on March 22, 1998 at 11:50:44:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away! posted by Bob McNally on March 22, 1998 at 02:06:22:

yes i only found one so far,but that ten pointer next to my house will be dropping his rack any day now.he's in a small area of woods,i just hope nobody pushes him out of it for the next few weeks.

Re: Groundhog season?????

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 22, 1998 at 02:10:14:

In Reply to: Re: Groundhog season????? posted by Narwhale on February 23, 1998 at 10:30:27:

Don't know what its like in your area but here in Ottawa it will be awhile!! They don't like snow & we've lots of it! Bob

Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away!

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 22, 1998 at 02:06:22:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away! posted by paul on March 21, 1998 at 19:21:25:

It could have been moved by a coyote but chances are the bite marks were from either sqirrels or mice who love to chew them for the minerals in them. As Hoyt mentioned by all means use them for rattling!! (...but I thought you only found one...%^)!

I've heard some say that when they dry out that the tone changes somewhat compared to synthetic but hey! they're free and nothing would be more exciting than rattlin' in a bruiser with sheds you'd found!

See you... Bob

Re: big buck"s shed first , Use them Sheds!!

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Posted by Hoyt on March 21, 1998 at 19:51:34:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away! posted by paul on March 21, 1998 at 19:21:25:

I won't use those synthetic rattlers! Use the sheds they'll have alot more tone!

Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away!

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Posted by paul on March 21, 1998 at 19:21:25:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away! posted by Bob McNally on March 21, 1998 at 14:55:04:

i spent a couple hours looking around that area,without luck,the shed had a few bite marks on it,so maybe it was carried into that area by a coyote or something.does anyone know if i could use this years sheds for rattling next fall? should i just break down and buy a pair of artificial ones?

Question re:links in post

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 21, 1998 at 15:22:03:

Hi Andy

I was wondering if its possible when I make a post and want to put a link or URL to something to use HTML in my post? I figure it would be better to make it "clickable" rather than have to cut & paste to get to the link.

Thanks

Bob

Re: Crows

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 21, 1998 at 15:04:32:

In Reply to: Re: Crows posted by Kern on March 11, 1998 at 08:09:42:

Crows can be shot but not Ravens. The Raven is protected just like the song birds. Sometimes they can be hard to tell apart untill they make their croaking sound. I've also found that the crow call is a good locator call to use for turkey hunting.

I like that idea of putting out the green garbage bag with a "deke" next to it! You might even consider putting out a box of "MacDonalds" fries. Seems to bring in the seagulls no problem! (I only wish we were allowed to nail a few of those seagulls)

Bob

Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away!

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 21, 1998 at 14:55:04:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away! posted by paul on March 21, 1998 at 13:17:35:

Paul

Did you get a chance to look around for a bit in that general area for the other side? I think its true that they say once a buck drops one side they feel unbalanced and try to get rid of the other ASAP. I've found several complete sets this way. Mind you the best rack I picked up I couldn't find. Searched a 300 yd radius for 2hrs with no luck. Would have been nice to find cause the one side had 6 pts and scored about 85-90 inches! Funny part was I found this shed in December near the end of partridge season in an open field between several cedars in plain view with ATV tracks/trails going nearby and it must have sat there for a whole year untouched!! Too early to be shed for that year and with the heavy amount of deer hunting in that area just a month earlier I'm surprised no one stumbled across it sooner!!

Bob

14" barreled 12g Ithica for sale

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Posted by Brett Davenport on March 21, 1998 at 13:51:48:

Many thanks to Andy Rubaszek (the fellow who runs this web page for inviting me to post).

I have an Ithica model 37 12g for sale. It chambers 2 3/4 and 3" magnum, has a parkerized steel receiver (bottom eject!), wood stock and foregrip.

There are two parkerized barrels, a 14" open choke with a gold bead sight, and a 20" modified with rifle sights.

The 14" barrel *is* legal...is came into the country attached. (Loophole for the police to have the short barrels.)

Asking $600 firm; buyer must have a valid FAC.

Many thanks,

Brett Davenport

Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away!

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Posted by paul on March 21, 1998 at 13:17:35:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away! posted by Bob McNally on March 21, 1998 at 03:48:13:

a buddy of mine from brantford tells me that the bucks in his area usually drop their racks in mid to late march.on march 12 i found a half of an 8 pointer,too bad it was in a conservation area

Re: Why noise?

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 21, 1998 at 04:02:50:

In Reply to: Re: Why noise? posted by Andy on February 26, 1998 at 13:45:34:

I know what you mean about the lots of fun... Check out this URL:

http://yoda.sscl.uwo.ca:80/~eric/firearms/

Click on the link marked "Chart" on steps how to obtain a permit in Ontario

Hope they're not too rough on you...

%^)

Bob

Re: big buck"s shed first & Turkey season's not far away!

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 21, 1998 at 03:48:13:

In Reply to: Re: big buck"s shed first posted by Hoyt on March 20, 1998 at 13:15:42:

Hi Hoyt

No luck with sheds so far. Spending too much time on this d__ pc! 2yrs ago found a nice set of sheds turkey hunting. They were sitting upright less than 10 feet apart just like he'd walked out of them!! I'm looking forward also to those gobbles & even that "whirring sound" when you get real close. Unfortunately the last 2 yrs have not even seen a bird...near the hunting area I go. (Trenton/Brighton area) Hope the bird supply is better this year. Send me an email if you like (you don't have an address posted) to let me know what areas you hunt. I'm thinking about maybe giving up on that area and trying Picton vicinity but that involves more work knocking on doors to get permission. Don't know when I can get the time for that.

Not long to go now!! See you... Bob

Re: big buck"s shed first

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Posted by Hoyt on March 20, 1998 at 13:15:42:

In Reply to: Re: big buck posted by Bob McNally on March 20, 1998 at 02:23:53:

HI Bob , I was waitin for someone to pick up on that( The guy's) I meant to say the big guy's. And speakin of shed's has anyone found any this year? Geez there tough to find , Ive searched Trails, Bedroom's and food source's with no sucess yet this year, Hopefully I"ll have better luck finding sheds when I'm Scoutin for Tom's! I can hear them gobbeling now!!! I love listening to them sound off at roosting time or any time!

Re: Bowhunting Whitetails

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 20, 1998 at 02:49:46:

In Reply to: Bowhunting Whitetails posted by Hoyt on February 03, 1998 at 14:15:28:

Congratulations! Sounds exciting to get the first with the bow. I've yet to get one with the bow. I've missed too many shots that I should have made. Hardest I find is to judge the darn distance! Either go high or low! Oh well its great to be out there. Thanks for the story. Maybe next year will be different...

Bob

Re: camo

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 20, 1998 at 02:37:09:

In Reply to: camo posted by paul on March 08, 1998 at 17:56:36:

I would suggest checking out the Cabela's cat to find the pattern you like best. The colour pics help some. My favourite is the "All Purpose Realtree" in brown... ..I think it comes in green also. I found that here in Canada the styles are pretty limited. Try getting a copy of The Bowhunters Discount Warehouse. I bought a cotton jacket (@$29.99) & pants (@$19) and wear them over a sweater or whatever for warmth. (Those cloth headnets I swear by too!) Here's the URL to checkout on the net:

I think you can order a cat online.

See you... Bob

Re: camo

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 20, 1998 at 02:35:38:

In Reply to: camo posted by paul on March 08, 1998 at 17:56:36:

I would suggest checking out the Cabela's cat to find the pattern you like best. The colour pics help some. My favourite is the "All Purpose Realtree" in brown... ..I think it comes in green also. I found that here in Canada the styles are pretty limited. Try getting a copy of The Bowhunters Discount Warehouse. I bought a cotton jacket (@$29.99) & pants (@$19) and wear them over a sweater or whatever for warmth. (Those cloth headnets I swear by too!) Here's the URL to checkout on the net:

http://www.bowhunterswarehouse.com/

I think you can order a cat online.

See you... Bob

Re: big buck

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 20, 1998 at 02:23:53:

In Reply to: Re: big buck posted by Hoyt on March 15, 1998 at 07:35:01:

Hey Hoyt

When you say "The guy's are supposed to shed first..." Is that to infer that the "gals" shed last!!

I suppose you meant the "older" guys.(And you're right usually the older bucks shed first & usually from about mid January to end of February.) That's quite strange I think to see a buck still carrying his rack!!

%^)

Regards... Bob

Re: Turkey Calls

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Posted by Bob McNally on March 20, 1998 at 02:09:43:

In Reply to: Turkey Calls posted by Kern on March 17, 1998 at 20:31:38:

Personally I like the box call. Its easy to use & makes a good sound with practice. For wet weather I keep it in a zip lock bag but place it in one of those plastic bread wrappers when using it in the rain. The diaphram call is my next favourite but takes some time to get used to it. It works well when you don't want movement & its hands free so its worth learning. I've got quite a collection over the last several years but haven't really seen enough birds to give them a good testing.

Find what you think sounds best to you & practice a variety of calls but sometimes the less calling the better!! Turkeys can get spooked pretty easy.

(Only a bit over a month to go... %^)

Regards...

Bob

Moose tags

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Posted by Charlie Peace on March 19, 1998 at 12:39:21:

I just heard a rumor that the MNR will NOT be making any changes to the adult moose tag allocation system. Anyone else out there know if there is any truth to this?

Re: 1998 S.E. Saskatchewan Goose and Duck Hunts

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In Reply to: Re: 1998 S.E. Saskatchewan Goose and Duck Hunts posted by Daniel Kelly on January 01, 1998 at 00:17:29:

Please send me phone number for hunt contact in 1998

to: Lonney Leach Buffalo Air Service Municipal Airport Kearney, NE 68848 or phone (308)-237-3700

Re: shot gun pattern

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Posted by Kern on March 18, 1998 at 07:51:42:

In Reply to: Re: shot gun pattern posted by bryan on March 18, 1998 at 00:37:41:

My camo pants got lotsa room...ill just stuff the quarters down my pants!!!

Re: Turkey Calls

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Posted by Hoyt on March 18, 1998 at 07:47:09:

In Reply to: Turkey Calls posted by Kern on March 17, 1998 at 20:31:38:

Hey Kern, I use a Quaker boy box call, Only one downfall don't get them wet, or they don't work period. I'm not brave enough yet to try the mouth call, practice, practice, practice,! A Tom will gobble at anything a slammed car door, a horn blowing, a dog bark etc. I do have a crow call and I do cup my hands like bryan mentioned, I Also carry a duck call for locating. PS It won't be long now!!

Re: shot gun pattern

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Posted by bryan on March 18, 1998 at 00:37:41:

In Reply to: shot gun pattern posted by Kern on March 16, 1998 at 17:14:54:

of course it cud be tuff explaining the buck straped to the trunk

Re: Turkey Calls

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Posted by bryan on March 18, 1998 at 00:36:21:

In Reply to: Turkey Calls posted by Kern on March 17, 1998 at 20:31:38:

for owl call use ur hands and mouth.....works best...who cooks fer you....yada yada

Turkey Calls

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Posted by Kern on March 17, 1998 at 20:31:38:

Just finished the turkey course and was wondering what everyones favourite call were. Went to the local sporting goods store and there is all kinds of different mouth calls and slates. What do you guys like to use??? What about an owl call to locate roosting toms...sounds like a great thing to have. Do you guys use it???

Re: shot gun pattern

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Posted by Hoyt on March 17, 1998 at 07:02:24:

In Reply to: shot gun pattern posted by Kern on March 16, 1998 at 17:14:54:

Go to where you normally go there's lots of seasons open , coyote, blackbird squirel, groundhog, And if someone comes along tell them thats what your doing or tell them your patterning your shotgun, Your NOT breaking any laws!

shot gun pattern

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Posted by Kern on March 16, 1998 at 17:14:54:

I would like to pattern the 10ga some time before the turkey season to see what shot is best for that turkey choke I bought. Can i just go into the bush where I usually hunt grouse or would i have to go to one of the local ranges?? Just wondering because everything is shut down, Im a regular to some of those back roads and the last thing i want is some of the locals thinkin im poaching.

Re: big buck Keep an eye on him!

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Posted by Hoyt on March 16, 1998 at 09:31:21:

In Reply to: Re: big buck posted by paul on March 15, 1998 at 19:32:38:

Hi bryan, If you need any help finding his sheds, let me know. Or if you need any help huntin him next Fall let me Know.I"LL be there!!! With compound bow or shotgun or rifle. I"LL be There!!!

Re: big buck

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Posted by paul on March 15, 1998 at 19:32:38:

In Reply to: Re: big buck posted by bryan on March 14, 1998 at 22:09:05:

just seen him again! there's 12 of them together,counted 4 tines on one side,possible 10 pointer.i saw both sides last night,but he was to far to count points.

Re: big buck

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Posted by Hoyt on March 15, 1998 at 07:35:01:

In Reply to: big buck posted by paul on March 14, 1998 at 19:14:58:

Id say that big buck should have shed about a month ago, The guy's are supposed to shed first.

Re: Crows

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Posted by bryan on March 14, 1998 at 22:11:59:

In Reply to: Re: Crows posted by Kern on March 11, 1998 at 08:09:42:

Kern i have shot crows from a boat but not ravens,,so i think there prob not in the same boat,,,,,,when ur duck hunting use a half breed goose call,,they also double as the worlds loudest crows call,,,,they work very well

Re: big buck

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Posted by bryan on March 14, 1998 at 22:09:05:

In Reply to: big buck posted by paul on March 14, 1998 at 19:14:58:

was it moving,,ie walking,,,very unusual past end january...maybe the game wardens poaching buck,,,,hehehe

big buck

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Posted by paul on March 14, 1998 at 19:14:58:

just got back from watching a big buck,still carrying his rack.is this unusual for this time of year?

Re: S.C.O.B.A. Big Buck Day! March 28

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Posted by Hoyt on March 14, 1998 at 10:55:43:

In Reply to: S.C.O.B.A. Big Buck Day! posted by Hoyt on March 13, 1998 at 20:33:24:

Sorry I forgot to post the date it takes place on March 28